Guest Mole Report post Posted May 14, 2003 People always crap on MTV because they never play any videos. However, it seems that VH-1 plays less videos than MTV does. So how come VH-1 doesn't get flammed all the time? I actually like MTV because it doesn't make you think when you watch the shows. Besides, I don't even like the music that MTV plays, it is all poppy shit anyway. The music sucks on any of those channels anway, so who cares about the videos. MTV wouldn't get HALF of the ratings it would get if it played just videos. Sorry for the rant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 14, 2003 BUT... VH1 has I love the 80's. And for that they are to be worshiped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Damn straight! I Love the 80s Rules Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted May 14, 2003 DAHH, I hate the 80s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RepoMan Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Well, at least everything still does relate to music in some way for the most part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted May 14, 2003 William Shattner plays One Hit Wonders and Behind the Music is subject related unlike MTV which has 6 reality shows on non stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WrestlingDeacon Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Vh1 isn't as big a name as MTV, nor was there ever really a heavy focus on videos for Vh1, who were catering to an older pre-video crowd from the start. Go back and look at Vh1 from the beginning and you'll see that they were never video heavy, as opposed to MTV who swore up and down that they were music television and would always be video heavy. Besides, Vh1 classic plays nothing but videos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted May 14, 2003 VH-1 used to gear towards the older audience, but they now try to focus on the younger audience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WrestlingDeacon Report post Posted May 14, 2003 VH-1 used to gear towards the older audience, but they now try to focus on the younger audience. No. I would just say the younger audience is getting older and the older audience is too damn old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted May 14, 2003 VH-1 used to gear towards the older audience, but they now try to focus on the younger audience. No. I would just say the younger audience is getting older and the older audience is too damn old. Well it seems they are trying to get my age, 19, to watch the channel for often. When they have Behind the Music on Biggie Smalls, I think they are targetting my age demographic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Well, I agree with both of you to a certain extent, but I think the thing to remember is that when...oh, no! I'm being eaten by a walrus! Help! Help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Vh1 isn't as big a name as MTV, nor was there ever really a heavy focus on videos for Vh1, who were catering to an older pre-video crowd from the start. Go back and look at Vh1 from the beginning and you'll see that they were never video heavy, as opposed to MTV who swore up and down that they were music television and would always be video heavy. Besides, Vh1 classic plays nothing but videos. Doesn't VH-1 stand for "Video Hits 1"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted May 14, 2003 Well, I agree with both of you to a certain extent, but I think the thing to remember is that when...oh, no! I'm being eaten by a walrus! Help! Help! *Burp* Koo-koo Ka-choo, bitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mik at Cornell Report post Posted May 14, 2003 I personally can't wait for I Love the 90s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Amazing Rando Report post Posted May 14, 2003 VH1 stands for "Videos Here First" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted May 14, 2003 VH1 gave us "Top 25 Bad Asses In Music Of All-Time," "Top 100 Hard Rock Acts" (which, for the most part, was rather accurate...aside from Motörhead not touching the top 10), "Behind The Music," and "I Love The 80's." They also play movies that are related to music in some way. What does MTV do? "HEY KIDS, DON'T BE HATIN'! NEVERMIND OUR LACK OF MUSIC AT ALL, DON'T DISLIKE SOMEBODY BASED ON SEX OR SEXUAL PREFERENCE!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Amazing Rando Report post Posted May 14, 2003 oh...and MTV had that godawful movie with Beyonce Knowles in it... that remake of Carmen... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted May 15, 2003 I actually like MTV because it doesn't make you think someone post the "MTV Get Off The Air" lyrics ASAP! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted May 15, 2003 ok, vh1 does stand for Video Hits 1. it began in the mid-80s as an alternative for 20-30 somethings in the 80's who preferred MOR music opposed to whatever Mtv was showing in 85-86. What VH1 did in the last couple of years is gear their programming to the programming Mtv should have been doing all along. I find Mtv unwatchable. The video awards use to grab my attention but they are completely forgettable now. With the exception of the DIVA abortions, I can find myself glued to VH1 for hours at a time. The only current channel that can keep my interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted May 15, 2003 I actually like MTV because it doesn't make you think someone post the "MTV Get Off The Air" lyrics ASAP! [MCPB] A little goon in a locker room rat-tails the octaroon He'll be drinking vodka soon and his big brothers are frat guys whose IQs lose to their fitted baseball hat size Smirkin' jocks with hackysacks in Birkenstocks and khaki slacks I'm the hypest lyricist while they're like, "What type of beer is this?" The liquid is ubiquitous and has such a hold on all the strata, it's just got to be government-controlled Behind the bottle and the throne sits an unknown man wiser and bigger for the liquor store the number one franchiser Perhaps George Bush and his sons are relatives of Anheiser I wanted to get in a pooper hole one day so I invited girls over on Super Bowl Sunday only one showed up: Princess Superstar [PS] Thanks for inviting me over let me look around the bed post (bad dill folds?) back to back black dildos nice kit kudos pass the cool ranch doritos I love nachos put on Fat Joe naw, that really sucks, let's put on the Beatles Yo, let's check the half time show I hope it's Michael Jackson singin Satisfaction with Hanson or Luther Vandross in a sparkling costume with big pants dancin or maybe I saw that in a Bud Light commercial speakin' of which, give this bitch a drink quick to wet my lips you got enough cheddar lyin' around this place to fix up my tits as if I need it... [MCPB] Conchetta please! If you see any chedda' it's chedda cheese I'm easily great I don't need to be in some sort of (cankeesy?) state to create something you can appreciate [PS] Who are you talkin to? [MCPB] Makin you draw conclusions and superficial distinctions make you go sacreu bleu [PS] I can speak French too suck my nuh-nuh french my cunt comprande voux? Look Pepe Le Pieux let's cut to the (de nu-mon?) you wanna fuck me, I wanna fuck you so it's on. [MCPB] Can I chime in? I'll still be rhymin' when I'm in your hymen I radiate like it was '88 and I'm searching for my lady mate I'm a hunter-gatherer a cunter-latherer My dandy voice makes the most anti-choice granny's panties moist I do the new when the tried and true fails plus I'm lookin' fly in my sky blue tails Now peel off your tube top so I can feel your boobs flop on my lubed cock socks up to your calf like a chick from the (craff?) I wanna put on a serated condom and saw you in half [PS] My knees are weak, I need knee-pads you fuck me blind, I can't see, dag! run me a hot bath add the epsom salt soak my lower half in your Mortal Kombat cocktail sauce let me head south put it in my mouth cause I like the taste. [MCPB] When I burst in your face I'll invade your personal space [PS] I'm like Chase, stick your card in and out Thanks see, look how much stacks of cream are coming out [MCPB] I removed her sanitary napkin with my teeth and there was a planetary backspin underneath I faced her wound Let's do a pap smear with a taster spoon you can sleep on the guest cot I'll sleep in the wet spot (Singing) I'll be your boyfriend Smooch on your pooper hole all through the Super Bowl your man doesn't even miss you glued to the boob tube, watchya gonna do dude? I woke up sticky and quickly applied a temporary tattoo to a hickey went to salt and shake her awake with orange juice, a straw, and coffee cake after we had a bite, we pushed the canoe in the lake [PS] You don't paddle right [MCPB] Look, a shooting star! [PS] It's a fuckin satellite [MCPB] Lady, one more complaint and I'll shove a rape-whistle up the Mrs. Va-J-J (starts whistling) [PS] What'd you say?!?! Listen Slim Shay-day tell Dre he better fuckin pay may (me) (starts laughing) [MCPB] Your talents are bite-size it's no suprise you rhyme with white guys I jumped in the water what did I want a girlfriend for? Just like you, you jizz on your floor. I don't want sweet potatoes anymore I didn't even leave her an oar did a medium crawl stroke back to shore Who's next to flirt with this exhausting extrovert? I parted some (palm frawns?) Guess who left me dry long johns Uncle Ralph McDaniels He said "what's up Paul Nathaniel Barman let's get MTV off the air I deserve my own channel." People watch VH1? Stop! They'll cater to you and ruin it for me! You bastards! I'll always love 1984, even if those stupid fucks left off the most important event in the entire year, my birthday! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted May 15, 2003 I personally can't wait for I Love the 90s. i am so getting on that show. i've even got my "ian michael black-esque" schtick lined up for it, where i talk about how trent reznor & kurt cobain inspired an unprecedented phenomenon of depressed teens writing shitty, angsty, "my life sucks" poetry, the likes of which have never been seen since, and whose reverberations are still being felt today in shitty, angsty, "my life sucks" songs by nickleback and linkin park. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted May 15, 2003 evenflow...were those the lyrics to "MTV get of the air" by Dead Kennedys? Or were those the lyrics to a different "MTV get off the air" song? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Plushy Al Logan Report post Posted May 15, 2003 "HEY KIDS, DON'T BE HATIN'! NEVERMIND OUR LACK OF MUSIC AT ALL, DON'T DISLIKE SOMEBODY BASED ON SEX OR SEXUAL PREFERENCE!" MTV has actually caused me to hate Homosexuals, Me homosexuals is not the answer Me MTV is the answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted May 16, 2003 evenflow...were those the lyrics to "MTV get of the air" by Dead Kennedys? Or were those the lyrics to a different "MTV get off the air" song? The Dead Kennedys? Ahh... you assume I listen to good music. Alas, it's not so. Those were the lyrics to "MTV Get Off the Air pt. 2" by MC Paul Barman. Here you are... Fun Fun Fun in the fluffy chair Flame up the herb Woof down the beer [click!] Hi I'm your video DJ I always talk like I'm wigged out on quaaludes I wear a satin baseball jacket everywhere I go My job is to help destroy What's left of your imagination By feeding you endless doses Of sugar-coated mindless garbage So don't create Be sedate Be a vegetable at home And thwack on that dial If we have our way even you will believe This is the future of rock and roll How far will you go How low will you stoop To tranquilize our minds with your sugar-coated swill You've turned rock and roll rebellion Into Pat Boone sedation Making sure nothing's left to the imagination M.T.V. Get off the M.T.V. Get off the M.T.V. Get off the air Get off the air See the latest rejects from the muppet show Wag their tits and their dicks As they lip-synch on screen There's something I don't like About a band who always smiles Another tax write-off For some schmuck who doesn't care M.T.V. Get off the air And so it was Our beloved corporate gods Claimed they created rock video Allowing it to sink as low in one year As commercial TV has in 25 "It's the new frontier," they say It's wide open, anything can happen But you've got a lot of nerve To call yourself a pioneer When you're too god-damn conservative To take real chances. Tin-eared Graph-paper brained accountants Instead of music fans Call all the shots at giant record companies now The lowest common denominator rules Forget honesty Forget creativity The dumbest buy the mostest That's the name of the game But sales are slumping And no one will say why Could it be they put out one too many lousy records?!? M.T.V.-Get off the air! NOW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted May 16, 2003 Well, just from today's schedule, MTV played 12.5 hours of videos, while VH-1 played 8 hours of videos. MTV played more videos, so I ask again, why do people flame MTV for never playing videos, when VH-1 plays less videos. Why don't I hear people flame VH-1 for never playing videos? It is a music station, so shouldn't it play more videos? Besides, that is why MTV has MTV 2, for the videos to be played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted May 16, 2003 So MTV played 11.5 hours of shows that are either remotely related to music or not related to music at all, while VH1 played 16 hours of music related shows. Therefore, MTV still deserves it more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted May 16, 2003 Ohh okay, I understand your point now. I still think MTV gets a bad rap, that is just me though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted May 17, 2003 Well, just from today's schedule, MTV played 12.5 hours of videos, while VH-1 played 8 hours of videos. My question is, WHEN did these videos air? Having videos on during the day is all well and good, but those of us that work would NEVER see them. Besides, that is why MTV has MTV 2, for the videos to be played. That's in the digital range down here in Houston - and that's extra money that I'm not willing to pay... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted May 17, 2003 My question is, WHEN did these videos air? Having videos on during the day is all well and good, but those of us that work would NEVER see them. Well, I am going to use a weekday schedule because that is what I used for the 12.5 hours. These are the following hours MTV has vidoes on: 6am, 7am, 9am, 10am, 11am, 2pm, 3pm, 4pm, 2:30am, 3:30am, 4am, 5am. On a weekday, VH-1 shows videos on these hours: 6am, 7am, 8am, 9am, 10am, 3am, 4am, and 5am. VH-1 shows videos at the same hours that MTV, just none during the day. One argument that people make is that VH-1 shows more music related shows. On May 19th, VH-1 only shows ONE music related show: "50 Greatest Women of the Video Era." On the other hand, on May 19th MTV has 4 shows that are music related: "MTV Cribs presents: How To Live Like A Rock Star 2," "Duets," and "Making the Video"(on twice). On May 19th MTV has 11 1/2 hours of videos, while VH-1 has 8 hours of vidoes. MTV has 2 hours of music related programming, while VH-1 has 2 hours of music related programming. All together, MTV has 13 1/2 hours of music related television. VH-1 has 10 hours of music related television. MTV wins, but still gets a bad rap. MTV has a lot of 'crap' TV on, so that is why people don't like it. However, VH-1 has plenty of 'crap' television shows also. Once again, for May 19th, here are the shows that MTV is showing that isn't music related. After each show I will either give a grade for if it is 'crap' TV, or something that is good for teenagers to watch or new related. If it is crap, it will get a 1, if it is good, it will get a 2. MTV: "Surf Girls"(1), "True Life: I have an Eating Disorder"(2), "Fake ID Jr."(1), "When I was 17"(1), "Fight For Your Rights: Protect Yourself: Gender Gap"(2), "True Life"(2), "The Real World/Road Rules Battle Of The Sexes"(1), "Road Rules XII"(1), "Surf Girls"(1), "Jackass"(1), "True Life"(2), "MTV Original Film: Wasted"(Don't know what it is about, so I'll give it a 1). Now for VH-1: "VH1 Special: When Cameras Cross the Line"(1), "World's Sexiest Commercials"(1), "ET on VH1"(2), "Red Hot Red Carpet"(1), "VH1 All Access: Hot Sexy Now"(1), "Reality Wrap-Up"(1), "World's Sexiest Commericals"(1), "ET on VH1"(2), "100% NYC: Tribeca Film Festival"(2), "Can't Hardly Wait"(1), "Red Hot Red Carpet"(1), "100% NYC: Tribeca Film Festival"(2), "Red Hot Red Carpet"(1), "VH1 All Access: Hot Sexy Now"(1) MTV has 4 shows that equal good programming, not crap. VH-1, they have 4 programs that are good programming, not crap. Basically, people's arguements don't really fit because MTV shows just as much 'crap' TV that VH-1 shows. And MTV has more music related programming in one day than VH-1 does. Yes, this is only one day, but I can't do an average for a whole week. That would take a long time and I don't want to do it. If someone else wants to, knock themselves out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites