Guest My Eyebrow is on fire Report post Posted May 19, 2003 Besides the video tape which is barely audible of himself sitting somewhere and saying "the mission was a success" or whatever - has the government officially released it's position as to how we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Bin Ladin was behind 911? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted May 19, 2003 It depends how you mean "officially released." Has the government published "The Big Book of Bin Laden's Guilt: 911 Reasons Why Usama Sucks?" No. Is some of the evidence out there if you know where to look? Yes. The problem is, a lot of the information gathered is sensitive and can't be released to the public domain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WhenDanSaysJump Report post Posted May 19, 2003 I haven't seen any 100% conclusive evidence since 9/11... but then again I can't think of a more likely candidate either! In fact as it was all going down, I was one of the few people in my office who'd heard of OBL and pegged him as the guy behind it at the time. So yeah. It was him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Eyebrow is on fire Report post Posted May 19, 2003 I'm not convinced it was Osama bin Ladin. I'm not suggesting it was Castro or Bush Sr. like some conspiracy buffs might, I'm just saying I've yet to be totally convinced and was hoping I'd missed something. DT just confirmed that I hadn't blinked and missed a Kenneth Starr-like publication presenting the case for the war on terrorism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted May 19, 2003 Al Qaeda doesn't usually come out a brag about there work like other terrorist groups tend to do.But Binalshib (sp) gave an interview bragging about the attacks, and saying he was going to be the 20th hijacker but wasn't allowed in the country.Mohammed that hairy guy may of given an interview as well but I'm not certain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Eyebrow is on fire Report post Posted May 20, 2003 Al Qaeda doesn't usually come out a brag about there work like other terrorist groups tend to do.But Binalshib (sp) gave an interview bragging about the attacks, and saying he was going to be the 20th hijacker but wasn't allowed in the country.Mohammed that hairy guy may of given an interview as well but I'm not certain. Links please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted May 20, 2003 I'm not convinced it was Osama bin Ladin. Ozymandias? Is that you??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted May 20, 2003 Al Qaeda doesn't usually come out a brag about there work like other terrorist groups tend to do.But Binalshib (sp) gave an interview bragging about the attacks, and saying he was going to be the 20th hijacker but wasn't allowed in the country.Mohammed that hairy guy may of given an interview as well but I'm not certain. Links please? CNN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cover of Darkness Report post Posted May 20, 2003 I heard the main piece of evidence was that there was a clear money trail from Al Quida networks to the bank accounts of the hijackers and that everything else was fill in the blanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wwF1587 Report post Posted May 21, 2003 this would be a great thread to hear some of Scott Steiner's intelligent thoughts on bin laden... it would be just as funny as the great debate.... in a sad way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted May 21, 2003 The Government's need to keep things back so they can operate efficiently without their wings getting clipped is so damning to them. People demand the government protect us, but then get bitchy when the government has to keep things to themselves in order to handle things and not give themselves away to enemies. Sad, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Eyebrow is on fire Report post Posted May 21, 2003 Sad as in "The system is flawed?" Or sad as in "I Wish eyebrow would shut the fuck up but this isn't the flaming folder so I'll say it in code." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted May 22, 2003 Neither. A perfect system is impossible. Sometimes in this world you have to keep things to yourself for the betterment and safety of others. Giving away your hand, especially in a situation where it could alert hostile forces that you can head them off and capture them, cannot be done to properly ensure the safety of the people. But those very same people get pissed off that you don't tell them, completely forgetting than their not knowing meant the terrorists that didn't kill them because they were captured didn't know either. It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of public relations situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tha Cunnysmythe Report post Posted May 22, 2003 There a video where Bin Laden talked about the bombing after it had happened - how the hijackers had never met each other before, that they didn't know what they were going to have to do until an hour before, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted May 22, 2003 Yes, and we should always believe homicidal terrorists on videotapes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Midnight Express83 Report post Posted May 22, 2003 they point the finger to themselves. Bin Ladin and most of his people either admitted it via tape. Or admitted it via capture. This one is rather open and shut. The real question should be, can it be possible to catch Bin Ladin? It is been hard for the last 5 years. He knows how to blend with the crowd. Now that he is losing friends, it might be even more possible. But time will tell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted May 22, 2003 if bin laden didn't do it, he'd have nothing to lose & everything to gain by taking credit for the attacks. just taking his word on it isn't very prudent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites