Criminals bitch about getting caught

[Guest Cancer Marney]

"I am trying to heal myself [of] what they did to me, actually. I will never forget those days when I was in solitary confinement," Shah said.

Said Azmath, "It makes me angry, because they caught the wrong guy and just give him [a] hard time because of the religious background or the ethnic look."

- CNN story

 

No, you stupid little fucks... they caught the right guys. And you were given a "hard time" because you were ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, because you were engaged in INTERSTATE FRAUD, and because you were FALSIFYING FEDERAL DOCUMENTS.

 

Jesus Christ. And they have the cheek to say they're angry? We should round them all up, double-check every goddamn visa, fingerprint them and put them through the FCN. Deport every single bugger who's so much as jaywalked. I've had it with these miserable SOBs.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

"They were suspected of ties to the 19 hijackers who crashed airliners into the World Trade Center and Pentagon, but, in the end, were found to be guilty only of credit card fraud unrelated to the terrorist attacks. "

 

so... if i use some random joe bob's card to buy something on ebay, they're gonna send me to guantanamo, too?

[Guest Cancer Marney]

We can only hope.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

wow, a stupid and pointless reply from marney that doesn't help to back up her baseless claims? no shit...

 

they sent credit card felons to guantanamo for being non-white. jesus, you can't even admit a mistake there?

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

btw, i'm not even saying this is an unreasonable fuckup, but considering they were exonerated of terrorism, i think your claims that they should definitely be detained in the way they were are quite inane, stupid, and unworthy of their own topic.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

wow, a stupid and pointless reply from marney that doesn't help to back up her baseless claims? no shit...

 

they sent credit card felons to guantanamo for being non-white. jesus, you can't even admit a mistake there?

The men were sent to New York and held in solitary confinement in the high-security wing of the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn

Wow, stupid and pointless whining from Tyler on behalf of unrepentant criminals that doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to the facts in the story he's getting righteously indignant over?

 

No shit.

 

Guantanamo Bay is not mentioned even once in the entire article. Can you admit a mistake there? Or is "Guantanamo Bay" your description for EVERY federal detention of a non-white CRIMINAL now?

 

And by the way, they were detained for travelling with the EXACT SAME WEAPONS used by the hijackers on the EXACT SAME DAY, and for matching a DESCRIPTION OF THE SUSPECT - which does happen to include the words "non-white." Or, to be more specific, Moslem.

 

There. I said it.

 

Feel free to claw out your eyes now and all alone beweep the misery of your outcast state.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

forgive me, i placed together the post 9/11 detentions with guantanamo. perhaps i should be shot myself.

 

regardless, it isn't standard procedure to lock up credit card felons in solitary and max. security, is it? uh, no.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

and that's why i said it wasn't unreasonable. however, they were exonerated. well, damn! lock all those muslocrats up anyway, miss ad hominem!

[Guest Cancer Marney]

regardless, it isn't standard procedure to lock up credit card felons in solitary and max. security, is it? uh, no.

 

When they're carrying box-cutters, several different variations on photo IDs, hair dye, thousands of dollars in cash, letters in Arabic, and have purchased one-way tickets after the flight for which they also had one-way tickets was grounded?

 

It damned well should be.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

correct, but in the end, it was found to be a coincidence. thus, they're not still in custody. reasonable mistake? sure. mistake? of course!

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

These guys are whining pricks, and I hope they go away for a very long time -- BUT -- they are not at all representative of immigrants in general. I don't have any problem with increasing measures to find and deport illegals, but legal immigrants contribute immeasurably to the economy and the culture, and should not be harrassed.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

regardless, it isn't standard procedure to lock up credit card felons in solitary and max. security, is it? uh, no.

 

When they're carrying box-cutters, several different variations on photo IDs, hair dye, thousands of dollars in cash, letters in Arabic, and have purchased one-way tickets after the flight for which they also had one-way tickets was grounded?

 

It damned well should be.

What are you alleging here? Didn't you read your own article?

 

Azmath and Shah were mid-air when the terrorist attacks occurred, and their TWA passenger jet was forced to land in St. Louis, Missouri, as the country's airspace closed.

 

They decided to continue their journey, boarding an Amtrak train for a 36-hour ride. They paid cash for one-way tickets -- a pattern for illegal drug couriers that caught the eye of a Drug Enforcement Agency agent in Fort Worth, Texas.

 

So they weren't grounded, they had already flown from Newark (assumedly) to St Louis when through no fault of their own they were dumped in Missouri. Why would they buy return tickets?

[Guest Cancer Marney]

They bought one-way tickets on the plane. Then they bought one-way tickets again, after their flight was grounded. As the article notes, such behaviour is in itself suspicious. Not sufficient to detain someone on its own, certainly, but in conjunction with everything else.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

reasonable mistake? sure. mistake? of course!

It had an excellent result: the deportation of two criminals. I call an arrest a "mistake" when it inconveniences an innocent. These two were not innocent. They were not law-abiding aliens. They were criminals. End of story.

[Guest evenflowDDT]

Blech, it's an unfortunate mistake for the men, but given the amazing coincidence regarding their suspicious behavior, it's a necessary one. The alleged abuse, like any case of abuse of criminals, was totally unnecessary, but since they don't seem to desire to come back to the U.S. any time soon (and given what happened to them, would you?), I don't see what can be done about it now, particularly since even their own prosecution admitted their error.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

The part where they got arrested is understandable. Not shedding any tears there, nor would I call it racial profiling or whatever.

 

The part where they were barred from contacting a lawyer for three months raises more than a few red flags, though.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

I didn't particularly like that part either.

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

but they shouldn't be allowed to complain about it, because they're guilty and all.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

Just go to sleep, Tyler. At least until the drugs clear your system. What the fuck do you want me to say? I SAID I didn't like that part either. I was NOT justifying it or excusing it.

And that WASN'T what they were complaining about, anyway. They were complaining about being ARRESTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. Christ Almighty, it's fucking amazing that you can pack so much snot and ignorance into your braincase with such a bloody thick skull.

[Guest EricMM]

On a slightly related topic, did anyone hear in the news about the mexicans who are (going?) to sue the U.S. Govt. for I dunno causing deaths or something because they put too many guards on the boarder and now people have to try and cross the desert to get into this country illegally? They're saying that since the U.S. didn't leave water stations or something like that in the deserts, they're responsable for the deaths of people they knew were coming, and they could have protected these illegal immigrants, and chose not to.

 

Anyone else heard about this?

[Guest Cancer Marney]

Hadn't heard about it, no, but I'm not surprised. California (naturally) already has water stations in the desert to facilitate illegal immigration.

[Guest Spicy McHaggis]

Hadn't heard about it, no, but I'm not surprised. California (naturally) already has water stations in the desert to facilitate illegal immigration.

Well shit, Marney, we possess the world's greatest governor that turned our $2 million surplus into a $25 billion deficit... Would you expect anything less?

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

"On a slightly related topic, did anyone hear in the news about the mexicans who are (going?) to sue the U.S. Govt. for I dunno causing deaths or something because they put too many guards on the boarder and now people have to try and cross the desert to get into this country illegally? They're saying that since the U.S. didn't leave water stations or something like that in the deserts, they're responsable for the deaths of people they knew were coming, and they could have protected these illegal immigrants, and chose not to."

 

That and the Government of Mexico gives out "survival" kits to illegal aliens crossing the border, too...