When a job means nothing

[Guest Youth N Asia]

I think I'm hating the current product more then I ever have before. The shows just don't have any consistancy to them. And what's bothering me most is that the wrong jobs are happening.

 

Why is Benoit taking pinfall loses to Sean O'Haire? I mean the guy has potental. But as of right now he's not drawing any heat and probably won't. The fans want to like Benoit, but it's getting harder when he's putting over SOH, The FBI, and a slob like the Big Show.

 

And about the Big Show...I think the fans have made up their minds that they don't like the guy's work. They're not booing him cause he's a dastardly heel. They're booing him cause they just don't want to see him. Yet they keep him in feuds with Brock and they had him fucking pin Brock last night, that just about made me sick.

 

I wonder if Vince can look at the product and seriously wonder why his ratings are in the shitter. You have HHH at his un-overest going over guys like Jericho, Booker, and Van Dam, who the crowd responds well to. And you've got the Big Show taking up tv time just to squash people. And you've got Benoit, who gets a nice pop losing to everyone. They'd rather let him books his feuds with his buddies in matches no one wants to see.

 

I'm a die hard wrestling fan, I usually try and catch every second of a show. But last night when I saw Show in the main event I just changed the channel.

[Guest evilhomer]

I forget the term for it, but it's a heat transfer thing. You take a wrestler who is over, have him job to the latest pet project push, and voila, the pet project gains all the heat that the over wrestler had (or done right, has). It's a great concept. It's a great way to push new faces into the spotlight. One problem, IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK! We get the reverse effect, the over wrestler loses his heat because all that faith we were throwing behind him was just tossed in the shitter, and we never wanted to see the push of the month anyways, so who gives a fuck who he's beating.

 

This concept works when you've got two over wrestlers only. Benoit and Angle is the perfect example. Two guys who were over waged a hard fought fued, one guy gets the final victory, gaining all the heat from the fued, and the other maintains his heat because of the battle he put up.

 

It's got to be someone who we've shown that we want to see. The way Vince does it just turns everyone off because we see that our favorites are going nowhere, and the ones we don't want to see are the ones going up.

[Guest Goodear]

I think I'm hating the current product more then I ever have before. The shows just don't have any consistancy to them. And what's bothering me most is that the wrong jobs are happening.

 

Doing the job is a part of the business and its probably for the best that you route for good matches rather than your guy going over in today's WWE. You know, if you want to stay sane and all. Otherwise your head will explode. I'm not sure what you mean by consistency though...

 

Why is Benoit taking pinfall loses to Sean O'Haire? I mean the guy has potental. But as of right now he's not drawing any heat and probably won't. The fans want to like Benoit, but it's getting harder when he's putting over SOH, The FBI, and a slob like the Big Show.

 

O'Haire and the word 'potential' next to his name should be stricken from the record since Jim Cornette got his hands on the guy. Your hope for Benoit right now is that all the jobs actually have a purpose to spur a heel turn (yeah, yeah... WWE with a plan is not likely, but I'm trying to make people feel better). With Angle now positioned as a face upon his return, they might have to turn a few of the faces like Benoit and the MIA Rhyno. Hopefully these losses can translate in a bitter and angry Benoit ... one can dream.

 

And about the Big Show...I think the fans have made up their minds that they don't like the guy's work. They're not booing him cause he's a dastardly heel. They're booing him cause they just don't want to see him. Yet they keep him in feuds with Brock and they had him fucking pin Brock last night, that just about made me sick.

 

Yeah I'm not sure I see that Show has X-Pac heat. I don't think the guy is a draw or anything but I don't think he turns people away in droves either. I'm not sure what you're basing that on to be honest other than you don't like the guy. Anyway, there has to be someone to challenge Lesnar and the heel side of the equation is way weak right now... who else should they serve up?

 

I'm a die hard wrestling fan, I usually try and catch every second of a show. But last night when I saw Show in the main event I just changed the channel.

 

Well, you missed out since the match was actually quite enjoyable and the second best match on the card. I mean, it wasn't earth shattering or anything but it sure did not suck the wang either.

[Guest Goodear]

I forget the term for it, but it's a heat transfer thing. You take a wrestler who is over, have him job to the latest pet project push, and voila, the pet project gains all the heat that the over wrestler had (or done right, has). It's a great concept. It's a great way to push new faces into the spotlight. One problem, IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK! We get the reverse effect, the over wrestler loses his heat because all that faith we were throwing behind him was just tossed in the shitter, and we never wanted to see the push of the month anyways, so who gives a fuck who he's beating.

Sometimes it works if the new guy has anything to get himself over with after the win. Look at how much Rock helped Lesnar get over with a high profile job or how much all the tag match victories did for Team Angle. The problem is that they have Benoit doing it too much although I think it sort of helped Cena and the FBI so even when he gets 'upset' by O'Haire people don't feel like it really mattered all that much.

[Guest nikowwf]

I think show/brock is a transitional feud that will wrap up next week so they can start the Vengeance build-up. I think they do a ton of jobs that don't mean sh*t, but i think any worry about show should be left at the door, cause its just transitional stuff.

 

niko

[Guest AndrewTS]

Does this mean we'll get Brock-Show AGAIN at Vengeance?

[Guest nikowwf]

I really don't think so, where else could they go with that? Brock has beaten Show every which way possible.

 

niko

[Guest AndrewTS]

I really don't think so, where else could they go with that? Brock has beaten Show every which way possible.

 

niko

I didn't say it was a good idea, interesting, or able to draw. I just think it's something Vince would do, and probably he'd put the title on Show to boot.

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

I think Brock-Show is just a placeholder feud to suck up some TV time until they decide what to do with Angle, and how that will affect the Vengeance booking. Brock-Show will probably end on TV the week before or after Judgement Day.

[Guest AndrewTS]

I think Brock-Show is just a placeholder feud to suck up some TV time until they decide what to do with Angle, and how that will affect the Vengeance booking. Brock-Show will probably end on TV the week before or after Judgement Day.

Do you mean "Bad Blood?"

 

Oh, and there's ONLY ONE "E" in judgment.