Guest notJames Report post Posted March 26, 2002 In light of the recent split of the Dudley Boyz, I'm kinda torn about if this is the right thing. On the one hand, there are certain wrestlers who just completely thrive in the tag team scene, and are/would be most successful staying there. I miss the old days where teams stayed teams forever. Killer Bees, The Bushwackers, um... The Moondogs, err... Tekno Team 2000... On the other hand, many singles competitors have broken from former tag teams to new-found success. Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Steve Austin, etc. It would be unfair to shackle a particular wrestler if he indeed does have the skills to go it alone. So what would you do? Do Buh Buh Ray or D-Von have a chance to make it on their own? Or will they be the last in a dying breed of tag teams that stand the test of time? (Of course, this will all be moot when the trades go down and they're back together again... ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest muzanisa Report post Posted March 26, 2002 Buh Buh is big enough to succeed in the WWF. D'Von I think would be Marty Janetty I can't see him being a big star without a gimmick change and considering he's black and in the WWF that could be risky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted March 26, 2002 The Dudleyz need to stick together. Both are solid performers but neither of them are capable enough to begin a singles career at this point in their lives. We'll see a trade I bet, probably sending D-Von to Raw since Flair wanted the Dudleyz so bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 26, 2002 I wouldn't compare Bubba & D'Von to Shawn & Marty.. Maybe more like Bubba to Scott Steiner and D'Von to Rick Steiner. LoL All together though, I think it's a beyond stupid mistake to break them up and hopefully with all this talk about "Trades" and stuff they will be placed back together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest muzanisa Report post Posted March 26, 2002 Buh Buh had a reasonable singles outing on TV a while back. Was it against Angle? Being a successful single gives him the opportunity to make more money (Bradshaw too), and if it all bombs they can reform the Dudleys. It wasn't that long ago that the Dudleys were mightily over but now they are really stale. His character has potential in that he can be a misogynist, dark staring dangerous unpredictable big man. Him and Kane can have an okay big man feud. Saying that I think they'll reform on Smackdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tony149 Report post Posted March 26, 2002 The Dudley's are one of those teams that shouldn't be broken up. I don't think neither would make it as a singles star unless they got a helluva gimmick. If they don't get back together within' the next week. Then I think Spike will team Bubba. I think Spike was picked by Flair, if he was picked by Vince, then I think he probably would team with D-Von. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 27, 2002 Buh Buh is big enough to succeed in the WWF. D'Von I think would be Marty Janetty I can't see him being a big star without a gimmick change and considering he's black and in the WWF that could be risky. Why would D'Von being black make that risky? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted March 27, 2002 Because WWF doesn't have a very good track record concerning black wrestlers. Rock is more of a white guy compared to someone like Dvon so he doesn't count. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted March 27, 2002 Dudley Boys wouldn't find that much success as singles so they will reunite at some point. But it won't be until the split dies down. They are going to play up the drama of "breaking up teams" for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest muzanisa Report post Posted March 27, 2002 Saba Simba, The Natural Butch Reed, Akeem, Slick, Reverend Slick, Kamala, NOD, Gladiator Farooq, Papa Shango, Virgil, against The Rock Rocky Johnson I know nothing about and JYD well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted March 27, 2002 Considering the sad state that the tag team division is in, I would think the Dudz would be the last team the Fed would split up. Same with the APA. Although the APA has turned into a plot catalyst as opposed to an actual wrestling duo, they are entertaining as a unit and would rather see them together than, perhaps, Scotty and Albert. Go figure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 27, 2002 Because WWF doesn't have a very good track record concerning black wrestlers. Rock is more of a white guy compared to someone like Dvon so he doesn't count. I think that is more coincidence than anything. D'Von is an established guy so I think he will find at least marginal sucess as a singles worker. I thought they took care of JYD and kept him with a good push. Why do you think different? Hopefully one good thing will come out of splitting the APA and Dudz-- Bradshaw flopping and getting released. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted March 27, 2002 Saba Simba, The Natural Butch Reed, Akeem, Slick, Reverend Slick, Kamala, NOD, Gladiator Farooq, Papa Shango, Virgil, against The Rock Rocky Johnson I know nothing about and JYD well. Um, Akeem wasn't a black guy -- he only played one on TV. As for the others, I wouldn't really consider any of them top tier players. Even though the NOD was given a big push, aside from Rocky, none of them has been given a sustained and healthy push. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest muzanisa Report post Posted March 27, 2002 Yeah Akeem was a white guy who found his African roots and ended up dancing and jive talking. Apart from Saba Simba he was the most offensive of the lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted March 27, 2002 He wasn't just any white guy... he was the One Man Gang! [crickets] Oh well,... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest muzanisa Report post Posted March 27, 2002 The One Man Gang's a "Legend of Wrestling" along with Koko B Ware [tumbleweed blows across street] Tony Atlas (but not Saba Simba) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted March 27, 2002 Was that list suppose to represent success by black guys in WWF or WWF's bad track record? That coincidence argument can only go so far to explain why out of all the black wrestlers only a few had any sort of success in WWF. I also never said they haven't ever had a black guy see success. Unfortunaly it was someone like Ahmed Johnson that basically had the most success of black guys in WWF. This wasn't even my debate why the hell am i getting into this mess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest muzanisa Report post Posted March 27, 2002 Yeah I wish I'd never said anything now. Ahmed was doing okay until he hurt to many people and he had a pretty bad attitude as well I hear. I think when the WWF has hired a black wrestler and not changed anything they've done okay. JYD, Koko B Ware, Rocky Johnson were straight ahead wrestlers or their gimmicks had nothing to do with then being black. Farooq now is basically playing Ron Simmons ex football star tough guy. Tony Atlas in his first run was the same but then he was given the Saba Simba gimmick. Tito Santana had the same thing with El Matador. Tatanka right after Dances with Wolves. It's not limited to black wrestlers but if they give them a gimmick they have a bad track record of using stereotypes. As a Dudley D'Von is great as a single his character needs fleshing out, more than Buh Buh's who comes across as more rounded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted March 27, 2002 Splitting them up would be a waste of time. I really can't see either of them getting over as single wrestlers, and I wouldn't particularly want them to either. I expect, as has been said, they will be traded to be on the same show if not on Smackdown than soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JerryDrake Report post Posted March 27, 2002 The Rock isnt more of a white guy you fucking moron, hes not even white you dumbass. Hes half Black, half Samoan. Maven is also mixed with black culture. D-Lo Brown was getting a huge push until the incident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted March 27, 2002 I can't understand it. Splitting the dudleys is something i'd just never entertain the idea of. D-Von is a decent heel but no one knows how to react to either guy's singles repertoir. They might do some sort of angle with bubba and spike but that'll just be an ecw rag doll thing for a while. It's insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
