Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted June 15, 2003 Edmonton is a hockey town, straight and simple. Question for you, as you're a Canadian and I'm not. From watching Stars and Oilers, (I rooted for the latter because I dig Laracque, Niniimaa, and Salo) it seems like Edmonton is a very very supportive city, as one would expect. But did Quebec City and Winnipeg support their teams as well as Edmonton did, even when they weren't the best? I remember the Winnipeg citizens mounting a huge "Save Our Jets" campaign that did extremely well. If I recall correctly, Winnipeg was a great hockey town, they just had a shithole arena that they couldn't replace until too late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lightning Flik Report post Posted June 15, 2003 Edmonton is a hockey town, straight and simple. Question for you, as you're a Canadian and I'm not. From watching Stars and Oilers, (I rooted for the latter because I dig Laracque, Niniimaa, and Salo) it seems like Edmonton is a very very supportive city, as one would expect. But did Quebec City and Winnipeg support their teams as well as Edmonton did, even when they weren't the best? I remember the Winnipeg citizens mounting a huge "Save Our Jets" campaign that did extremely well. If I recall correctly, Winnipeg was a great hockey town, they just had a shithole arena that they couldn't replace until too late. Quebec and Winnipeg BOTH supported their teams. Quebec is was a result of just new ownership wanting to relocate the team(if I remember correctly). Winnipeg managed to get the new arena concept in place, but yes, by then it was too late and they couldn't keep the team. It really was sad those days because in their last playoff run and season, I think they sold out every single home game. Shit, I felt bad for Manitoba and Sask cause both provinces supported the teams as their own single team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted June 15, 2003 Shit, I felt bad for Manitoba and Sask cause both provinces supported the teams as their own single team. Poor Saskatchewan, not only did they lose the Jets, but then they lost the opportunity to steal the Blues and have... THE SASKA TUNES!!!! AHAHAHHAHA!!!! Greatest name EVER! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted June 15, 2003 In the last few years, the Jets weren't getting great support, IIRC. I seem to remember them getting a lot of 9,000-ish crowds, but that may have been after that announcement they were leaving. I don't remember the Nords attendance, but if they were getting low numbers, I wouldn't blame the fans after the years of shitty teams they had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brush with Greatness Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Yeah, the case with Winnipeg was that there was a whole bunch of leaving, not leaving, leaving, not leaving to finally leaving scenarios. Those crowds didn't take that hit until after one of those "team is being relocated nothing we can do announcements". Then they weren't. Then they were again and the Save our Jets campaign. The Jets also got fucked by having some great teams in the 80's (top 4 in the league) but never being able to get past the second round because of either a great Oiler of Flame team. As for Edmonton, its guaranteed that you get 13000 season tickets. I think Calgary gets the same thing. That is the minimum requirement for the NHL to then kick in some sort of small market equivalency program and fork over some cash. And if you think Edmonton would be around if not for the Cups I suggest you read Douglas Hunter's great book "Glory Barons". And while we are discussing all this... I think what needs to be fixed even moreso than any rule is the collective bargaining agreement. The NHL needs to stand tough and put in a similar system to the NFL's working arrangement. Salary Cap, Revenue Sharing, the works. Having a Salary Cap based on income only makes sense. The only positive about a work stoppage is that we may once again in Canada get another World Junior dream team. Every year each nation sends their best under 20's except for us, as we have guys like Bouwmeester, Nash, Weiss, Spezza and Blackburn stuck in the NHL (or AHL in Spezza's case). A work stoppage means we get all or our best and can witness another domination like Red Deer 95. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest undisputedjericho Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Well, as much as I didn't want them to win, blame the fans for not supporting the team, not the team for not supporting the fans. They've won 3 Cups in 9 years. I wish I lived in a winning hockey state. I live here. I don't care. But I'm not a hockey fan. But none of my friends who are hardcore Devils fans went to the rally in the parking lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest undisputedjericho Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Well, as much as I didn't want them to win, blame the fans for not supporting the team, not the team for not supporting the fans. They've won 3 Cups in 9 years. I wish I lived in a winning hockey state. I live here. I don't care. But I'm not a hockey fan. But none of my friends who are hardcore Devils fans went to the rally in the parking lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MaxPower27 Report post Posted June 18, 2003 I would go if a team near me had a rally in a parking lot, or even a small parade. Of course, both teams in Florida don't really have good odds at winning anything. SUPPORT YOUR TEAM!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted June 18, 2003 For all this "3 Cups in 9 Years" stuff, may I remind anyone who's forgotten that the '95 Devils are asterisk champions in the same fashion as the '99 Spurs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MaxPower27 Report post Posted June 18, 2003 why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Because the Devils suck and I must discredit them at every turn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MaxPower27 Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Because the Devils suck and I must discredit them at every turn. I see. * it is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nl5xsk1 Report post Posted June 18, 2003 But none of my friends who are hardcore Devils fans went to the rally in the parking lot. unless there's a wicked legitimate reason to not go, then they're not hardcore fans. A hardcore fan drives from Colorado to Detroit to see their parade, or takes the days off of work to drive from NYC to Boston to see Bourque celebrate the Avs win. Drop "hardcore" from that sentence if they can't go across the river to celebrate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MaxPower27 Report post Posted June 18, 2003 I would willingly take a day off of work if any of my teams ever won anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted June 18, 2003 I hate the Yankees and I went to their parades when they won- They're a BLAST. But if any of my teams won- I would go to the parade in a second. And undisputedjericho- How are the fans hardcore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nl5xsk1 Report post Posted June 18, 2003 I would willingly take a day off of work if any of my teams ever won anything The only sports that I care enough to celebrate with are Hockey and Football - but I took the time to see the Pats parade and would literally take a week off of work to celebrate a Bruins Cup victory. If the Celts won, I'd probably go just because it'd be the summer and there'd be tons of talent down celebrating. But I'd stay off the proverbial bandwagon. The Sox winning would cause such chaos in Boston it'd be impossible not to get giddy. And I am NOT a baseball fan. So, yes, I'd hit that parade too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
