Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 15, 2003 The United States title will be returning to WWE Land...As the equalivilent of Raw's I.C title for Smackdown. Smackdown is LOADED with potentital suitors for the title... It is likely that Since Raw did a Battle Royale...Smackdown will do something different and go with another Tournament... But hey...Who doesn't love a tournament right? BRACKETS RULE! Anyways... The question to be ask here is...Do you put it on an established performer that will make the title a little more credible I.E Benoit or Eddy... Do you put it on an SUPERSTAR in the making... I.E Cena or an up and coming big name player already proven to be a good carrier of an title division...I.E Matt Hardy? Let's Go ahead and say Smackdown goes for a 16 man Tournament...with the final four to cultimate at Vengence...the first ever Smackdown exclusive PPV... The Bracket would be interchangeable as long as you have the right four guys making it that far... I would have Rhyno cause Benoit to lose inavertaly and thus snapping BENOIT enough to screw Rhyno outta his match and turning heel because that is what Heyman wants to do. So at least use the tournament to seperate these two guys... and let's think about it... There are really only TWO options here Option A Matt Hardy. We all know Hardy has impressed the boss and that isnt easy to do...So it could be concieveable that McMahon will want Hardy to carry the reinstated US title because he has faith in him. Matt showed he can be an great old school heel with a slight modern twist and he practitally revived the dying CW title on his own...so he has that going for him. Option B John Cena Let's Face it. CENA is going to be a SUPERSTAR. He already has Kurt Angle raving about him as well as Lesnar...He has already made his presence known in the marketing scheme and creative...proving them he was able to connect to the audience and knew well enough to tap into the Throwback craze... John Cena has been a GREAT heel but he shown he can EASILY get the crowd behind him because he offers an different fresh attitude...a sing along catchphase and a good look along with his treadmark horns which is rapidly getting to the DX CHOP/ NWO sign level of popularity. Either Way...Those two would be instant stars for the United States title and would revive the mid-card scene... Or they can go the obvious WWE route and have that Classic Gunn/A-Train title fued we've been pleading for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted June 15, 2003 I might just have Matt Hardy pick up the title if I was in charge, to keep him looking strong and like he's "climbing the ladder". I'd bump Benoit up to the World Title with Brock/Angle/TBS, and maybe hold Rhyno back to feud with Matt Hardy, unless of course I put him in the Benoit/World Title angle as well. John Cena is another good one, but I'd give it to Matt Hardy first just to keep him looking really strong. I wish TBS would become an MF'er, that would be gold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 15, 2003 I like that Idea... You could have TBS lose his final match against Lesnar and Have A-Train chew him out for not being able to beat him when it matters...on his own... Show gets pissed and KILLS A-Train... He returns two weeks Later as The Ultimate M.Fer... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted June 15, 2003 I like that Idea... You could have TBS lose his final match against Lesnar and Have A-Train chew him out for not being able to beat him when it matters...on his own... Show gets pissed and KILLS A-Train... He returns two weeks Later as The Ultimate M.Fer... Like I said, I REALLY want that to happen. It gives TBS a chance to do something without being totally in the spotlight, and we could get some funny as hell moments from it. I've wanted TBS to become an MF'er ever since the begining of Mattitude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MaxPower27 Report post Posted June 15, 2003 V1 needs a bodyguard of some kind to beat on, yell at, and the bodyguard just takes it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 15, 2003 I would love if they could have Crash and Show have an serious convostation about something super-intelligent and Hardy walks in to grab a bottle of water and SHOW turns into a TOTAL valley girl for Hardy...while Matt looks scared and confused and smiles at him and whistles as he walks away... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted June 15, 2003 V1 needs a bodyguard of some kind to beat on, yell at, and the bodyguard just takes it. TBS is the man, heh. At the end of most of Matt's matches, Matt, or the other MF'ers could distract the ref as TBS comes into the ring and chokeslams Matt's opponent, leading to the win. I wouldn't let it happen all the time, it'd just be a sort of mini-angle which I think could be cool. Seeing Matt about "defeating" everyone when it was really TBS who did a lot of the work could be great, and they can all deny that TBS ever gets involved. Maybe TBS could get jellous one day, and take on Matt himself, blah blah blah, I'm just saying there is tons of stuff you could do to make it both funny and entertaining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted June 15, 2003 I would love if they could have Crash and Show have an serious convostation about something super-intelligent and Hardy walks in to grab a bottle of water and SHOW turns into a TOTAL valley girl for Hardy...while Matt looks scared and confused and smiles at him and whistles as he walks away... See, the possibilities are ENDLESS. Have Matt give TBS advice all the time, teach him the ways of Mattitude, etc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MaxPower27 Report post Posted June 15, 2003 V1 needs a bodyguard of some kind to beat on, yell at, and the bodyguard just takes it. TBS is the man, heh. At the end of most of Matt's matches, Matt, or the other MF'ers could distract the ref as TBS comes into the ring and chokeslams Matt's opponent, leading to the win. I wouldn't let it happen all the time, it'd just be a sort of mini-angle which I think could be cool. Seeing Matt about "defeating" everyone when it was really TBS who did a lot of the work could be great, and they can all deny that TBS ever gets involved. Maybe TBS could get jellous one day, and take on Matt himself, blah blah blah, I'm just saying there is tons of stuff you could do to make it both funny and entertaining. Plus, that instantly creates the breakup for when they eventually bring Slow back to the main events. He wants credit for the wins, but Matt tells him off one time too many and Slow lays him out. Then, they have their own mini-feud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ftwdevils2469 Report post Posted June 15, 2003 Instead of doing any of these kick ass ideas, The only Big Show comedy we will get, with the way he creative team is, is a Big Show in the Bathroom segment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Austin3164life Report post Posted June 15, 2003 Give the U.S. Title to an established veteran like Benoit or Guerrero to give it a little measure of credibility. Have Guerrero or Benoit have a nice long run to put the belt over as the #2 belt on SD!. After that, either Cena or Matt could beat the veterans clean, the veterans move to the World Title scene, and the U.S. Title scene revolves around Cena, Hardy, Rhyno, and probably Team Angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted June 15, 2003 geez we been saying the usual suspects... lets be original how about pick out names that isn't Rhyno Benoit Cena or Hardy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Austin3164life Report post Posted June 15, 2003 Okay. Then I say let's revolve the belt aorund Rikishi, Billy Gunn, A-Train, and The Big Show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NaturalBornThriller4:20 Report post Posted June 15, 2003 Oh, you forgot Bill DeMott. I agree 100% with Austin3164life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye Report post Posted June 15, 2003 Trivia247 Posted on Jun 15 2003, 01:11 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- geez we been saying the usual suspects... lets be original how about pick out names that isn't Rhyno Benoit Cena or Hardy? Who would you say could bring the title more legitimacy than those guys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DawnBTVS Report post Posted June 15, 2003 How would the brackets be set up? Depending on who would win, I'd have it be Hardy vs either Rhyno or Benoit with Rhyno/Benoit costing the other the Title. Here's my brackets... Round 1(8 Man) John Cena vs Rikishi(Cena wins via DVD) Billy Gunn vs Chris Benoit(Benoit wins via Crippler Crossface) Matt Hardy vs Bill Demott(Hardy wins via Twist of Fate) Rhyno vs A-Train(Rhyno wins via Gore) Semi-Finals(4 Man) John Cena vs Chris Benoit(Benoit wins via Crippler Crossface) Rhyno vs Matt Hardy(Matt wins via Benoit accidentally nailing Rhyno with a steel chair) Finals Matt Hardy vs Chris Benoit(Hardy wins after Rhyno Gores Benoit when Matt moves out of the way) Thus this can set up the Benoit/Rhyno breakup feud....both Hardy and Cena are heels however so one of them would probably need to turn face if they were to feud over the US Title Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted June 15, 2003 Trivia247 Posted on Jun 15 2003, 01:11 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- geez we been saying the usual suspects... lets be original how about pick out names that isn't Rhyno Benoit Cena or Hardy? Who would you say could bring the title more legitimacy than those guys? think they should keep Eddy Guerrero stuck in the tag ranks?? Forgot about him? anyway I Didn't say they wouldn't bring prestige to the title Im saying that they aren't the Only wrestlers on the Planet... and it sounds like people just following the Smark party line without putting to much thought into it. asides Benoit should get a world title run and everyone knows it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted June 15, 2003 Hey, I put thought into Matt winning it with TBS as his new MF'er. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye Report post Posted June 15, 2003 Trivia247 Posted on Jun 15 2003, 01:53 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QUOTE (Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye @ Jun 15 2003, 08:42 PM) QUOTE Trivia247 Posted on Jun 15 2003, 01:11 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- geez we been saying the usual suspects... lets be original how about pick out names that isn't Rhyno Benoit Cena or Hardy? Who would you say could bring the title more legitimacy than those guys? think they should keep Eddy Guerrero stuck in the tag ranks?? Forgot about him? anyway I Didn't say they wouldn't bring prestige to the title Im saying that they aren't the Only wrestlers on the Planet... and it sounds like people just following the Smark party line without putting to much thought into it. asides Benoit should get a world title run and everyone knows it. Eddies is doing just fine in the tag ranks right now. And no they arent the only wrestlers on the planet but they are the best ones *I* can think of that would make the title mean something and make it a tool for elevation of talent down the line. Which is what it should be used for. You contradicted yourself on the next point about following smart party line, and then saying Benoit deserves a title run. I'm just rippin on you for that one pal. no hards... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 15, 2003 I'd have Rhyno/Benoit in the first round. I'd also have Matt lose first round. Shit, you know what I wouldn't mind seeing. Four 3 way matches as the quarterfinals. Spice it up. Make it original (for the WWE) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted June 15, 2003 Trivia247 Posted on Jun 15 2003, 01:53 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QUOTE (Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye @ Jun 15 2003, 08:42 PM) QUOTE Trivia247 Posted on Jun 15 2003, 01:11 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- geez we been saying the usual suspects... lets be original how about pick out names that isn't Rhyno Benoit Cena or Hardy? Who would you say could bring the title more legitimacy than those guys? think they should keep Eddy Guerrero stuck in the tag ranks?? Forgot about him? anyway I Didn't say they wouldn't bring prestige to the title Im saying that they aren't the Only wrestlers on the Planet... and it sounds like people just following the Smark party line without putting to much thought into it. asides Benoit should get a world title run and everyone knows it. Eddies is doing just fine in the tag ranks right now. And no they arent the only wrestlers on the planet but they are the best ones *I* can think of that would make the title mean something and make it a tool for elevation of talent down the line. Which is what it should be used for. You contradicted yourself on the next point about following smart party line, and then saying Benoit deserves a title run. I'm just rippin on you for that one pal. no hards... heh well I would go the Nathan Jones for World Title rout then i'd hate myself in the morning LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest juvvy Report post Posted June 15, 2003 I want to see it on Matt Hardy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 15, 2003 He just had the cruiserweight title fer christsakes and added nothing to it. Him winning the US title right away would just be like the Euro/IC problem where there was no distinction between divisions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted June 15, 2003 Matt Hardy & John Cena are the obvious choices. Benoit should be main eventing, not fighting for the US Title. A Benoit heel turn makes most sense if he is going after a face Kurt Angle & Brock Lesnar. With this belt he'd have nothing to do after the Rhyno feud (because the other big face at this level, Edge, is hurt) and then we get to trading the title around every month which is what killed the credibility of the midcard titles in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 15, 2003 A heel Benoit doesn't make any sense considering face Benoit is 10xs more over than heel Benoit. But this is the WWE, and they hate Benoit. Let him burn. Who cares? He's only the best wrestler they've ever had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted June 15, 2003 A heel Benoit doesn't make any sense considering face Benoit is 10xs more over than heel Benoit. But this is the WWE, and they hate Benoit. Let him burn. Who cares? He's only the best wrestler they've ever had. Heel Benoit is better than jobber Benoit, which is what he's doing now. He needs a manager though, and who's better than Paul Heyman in this day and age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 15, 2003 heel benoit = jobber benoit actually, at least jobber benoit gets some applause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites