Detective Comics 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 I believe the members of Special K and guys like the Ring Crew are the most important part of ROH. They put guys over (Carnage Crew) all the time, and take the most bumps, usually the sickest of the night. For example, Dixie took one of the Maximo's behind the back piledriver onto the apron at the Cambridge show this past Saturday. Of the 5 ROH shows I've seen live, they have always impressed me by taking something insane, and usually innovative. BTW, Does anyone know where I can get more info on Special K? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ShooterJay Report post Posted June 16, 2003 I agree with you 100% I mark hardest for Special K and the Ring Crew- check the avatar for proof. Most of Special K started out in JAPW, you could check out their site for some info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 I agree with you 100% I mark hardest for Special K and the Ring Crew- check the avatar for proof. Most of Special K started out in JAPW, you could check out their site for some info. So, basically, the midcarders of JAPW are the backbone of ROH. That's all dandy with me, I guess... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detective Comics 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 So, basically, the midcarders of JAPW are the backbone of ROH. That's all dandy with me, I guess... Well, you've got the guys who headline (Styles, London, Daniels) and with the exception of the Styles/London match Saturday, nothing really impressed me from established talent. However, that Walters guy wrestled most of the 4-way, including covering up for Justin Credible's lack of wrestling ability, and Walters got the crowd into, and had some great offense. I think the only other bigger bump of the night was a top rope piledriver given to the Christopher Street Connection's manager. What's that saying for ROH? I go to the event, and I expect to see the type of things that got me into ROH. Instead of innovation, I see Samoa Joe (he's a fat fuck, get over it) bumping very poorly, and Danny Moff (fomerly of Da Hit Squad) wrestling most of the main event with MICHAEL SHANE?! since Corino showed up. It would have been nice to see the guy they put the title on bumping instead of being lazy, or Daniels doing something more amazing then his moonsault. My point, if I have one, is that everything that made ROH special when I first started watching it had faded. Bringing in Whipwreck, Credible, and even Raven are bad moves on their part. I don't drive an hour out of my way to see the type of matches I could see for free on TV. I want innovation! I want neckdrops! I want stiff striking! And most of all, I DON'T want any more promos or Matt Stryker matches for that matter. He bores me. There, I said it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted June 16, 2003 I could care less about Matt Stryker or that Chad Collyer guy. Pure Wrestling my asshole. If I wanted to watch two guys imitating Dean Malenko, I'd watch fucking DEAN himself. Oh, and Joe is a fat fuck, but that doesn't mean he sucks. He's really, really good for someone who'd been in the business for only a short amount of time. Plus, his Ohtani-tribute bootscrapes ARE FUCKING BOSS~! It seems me that I go to every good Boston event, and skip every crappy one.....hmmmm..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest j.o.b. squad Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Oh, and Joe is a fat fuck, but that doesn't mean he sucks. He's really, really good for someone who'd been in the business for only a short amount of time. Plus, his Ohtani-tribute bootscrapes ARE FUCKING BOSS~! It seems me that I go to every good Boston event, and skip every crappy one.....hmmmm..... on http://www.declarationofindependents.net/ samoa did an interview where they mentioned that samoa was trained in 1989 makeing the "short amount of time" a false statement also he talked about his style saying that he is trying to bridge the heavyweight and junior styles as for the last statement nevermortal = goodness obviously Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Oh, and Joe is a fat fuck, but that doesn't mean he sucks. He's really, really good for someone who'd been in the business for only a short amount of time. Plus, his Ohtani-tribute bootscrapes ARE FUCKING BOSS~! It seems me that I go to every good Boston event, and skip every crappy one.....hmmmm..... on http://www.declarationofindependents.net/ samoa did an interview where they mentioned that samoa was trained in 1989 makeing the "short amount of time" a false statement also he talked about his style saying that he is trying to bridge the heavyweight and junior styles as for the last statement nevermortal = goodness obviously He was trained in 1989? But he's only like 24, which would have him being trained at 10? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted June 17, 2003 i don't know samoa joe's b-day but it is possible that it should have been 1999 instead of 1989. as for special k being the backone of roh??? oh hell no! they are entertaining but they are not the backbone of the company. low ki, dragon and chris daniels, are the backbone of the company. they can still have great matches and they are the reason to buy a ticket. special k is just a reason not to take a piss after the alexis laree match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Phoenix Fury Legdrop Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Not to interject, but I don't see how two guys (Ki, Danielson) who are basically no longer regulars (unless Danielson works there non-stop after he gets back from England in July) can be the backbone of any promotion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest j.o.b. squad Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Declaration of Independents: Your training began in 1989 so you have been involved in professional wrestling at one level or another for almost 15 years now. Do you agree with this statement "No matter how many times I wrestle in a match, I can always learn something new." Please elaborate. that is the quote that i got the 1989 figure from acording to his official site joe was born in 79 so yeah he was training at 10 not that odd in mexico it is normal for people to start training at very early ages Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detective Comics 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2003 as for special k being the backone of roh??? oh hell no! they are entertaining but they are not the backbone of the company. low ki, dragon and chris daniels, are the backbone of the company. they can still have great matches and they are the reason to buy a ticket. special k is just a reason not to take a piss after the alexis laree match. This was not the case Saturday. Had Daniels/Morgon or Samoa Joe wrestled most of the main event, I probably wouldn't have mentioned any of this. The fact is, they barely wrestled the main event. Watching Moff go up against Shane/C.W.A. (Nevermortal, see the inside joke to make fun of the dead?) was not what I paid to see. I always expect a lot from guys like Styles, London, etc, but the fact of the matter is they don't take the sickest bumps in the fed. I appreciate their work, and most people do. That is the problem: while guys like Justin Credible and Mikey Whipwreck are getting pushed, these guys are still squash guys. But they play the most important role because of that. Special K go out and bust their asses, while the booked champion takes lazy bumps. I've never seen anyone sell a headlock takeover in such a poor manner. Seriously, if a federation puts a belt on you, it is a time to try your hardest not slack. Don't know if I already mentioned this, but the fact that I was most impressed by that local guy Walters is pretty sad. I miss last year's ROH that I had grown to love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Upright Man Report post Posted June 17, 2003 Declaration of Independents: Your training began in 1989 so you have been involved in professional wrestling at one level or another for almost 15 years now. Do you agree with this statement "No matter how many times I wrestle in a match, I can always learn something new." Please elaborate. that is the quote that i got the 1989 figure from acording to his official site joe was born in 79 so yeah he was training at 10 not that odd in mexico it is normal for people to start training at very early ages Joe was first trained by Cincinnati Red in 1999. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
