Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 17, 2003 I hear alot of talk about Pujols breaking .400 for the first time since Williams in 1941 (?) and That got me thinkin... What records/milestones in baseball and all sports are the UN-BREAKABLES? Will Anyone break 56? Will anyone break 73? Will anyone break 100 pts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted June 17, 2003 100 points number one, there's no way that can happen in today's league. 56 is tough but I do see someone getting really hot and breaking that soon. Lemueix(sp)'s every kind of goal record will never be tied, that was the ultimate combination of skill and luck. The Strike out record I don't see being broken either, 7 innings of picture perfect throwing just seems too far off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted June 18, 2003 I think it was on the Jim Rome show, he brought up the fact that no one will ever pitch 3 No Hitters in a row. The current record is 2 in a row by Johnny Vander Meer in 1938. Im gonna go with that. No way a pitcher gets 81 batters out in a row. Someone might get 2 back to back, but 3 will never happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingpk Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Cy Young's wins record (511) will NEVER EVER be broken. Not even close. With the NBA full of teams with only one or two guys that score, 100 isn't out of the realm of possiblity. I don't know if any pro team will win eight straight titles like the Celtics did in the 50s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Oh, and how could I be so stupid to forget 2,632 - Ripken's consecutive games streak I think in an era of "Ow..my pinky hurts, I gotta sit out coach" thats pretty safe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest undisputedjericho Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Unless there is a huge, constant meltdown for the next century or so, the Yankees record of 26 championships is pretty safe. I don't think it's possible to hit in 56 straight games. You're going to run into a day where you hit the ball perfectly 4 or 5 times and somebody's gonna be there to rob you. Or, you get a less than generous official scorer. It's just the game. 73 home runs will be broken. The guy might not be in the majors yet, though. 70 was broken to quickly for me to think otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Perfect NFL season will never happen, be it 16-0 or 0-16. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobbyWhioux Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Highest Career Batting Average: Ty Cobb, .367 Ty Cobb also hit over .400 three straight years (1910, 1911, 1912). Forget about that ever being duplicated. Highest Single Season Batting Average: Rogers Hornsbury (sp?) .424 Most Career Wins: Cy Young, 511 Most Career Losses: Cy Young (300 something plus, I forget, but it's way up there. Nobody will get enough starts to lose that many, especially if they suck enough to keep losing like that.) Most Career Hits: Pete Rose, 4,256 Most Single Season Wins: I think it's Jack Chesbro with 41, but I'm not sure. But again, like the career wins total, the 5 man rotation makes it mathmatically impossible to get enough starts (Hell, even the 4 man rotation does). I'd wager Rickey Henderson's records for most career stolen bases and leadoff homeruns are safe. Same with single season steals (which I think he holds, too, but it could be Vince Coleman or Maury Wills). I think all the steals records are safe until/unless the game shifts away from the Home Runs Uber Alles era its in now. Wayne Gretzky's single season total points record is untouchable (in like 83 or something he had 240 pts. [goals + assists] or something like that.) Marvin: 81 batters in a row would be three straight perfect games, not no-hitters. You can get a no-hitter while still conceding walks or people reaching on error. But still, yeah, nobody's ever gonna throw three in a row of either. No NFL team will ever three-peat as Superbowl Champion unless the salary cap were abolished and free agency restricted (and even then it'd be very doubtful). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted June 18, 2003 I see Soriano breaking the lead off home run record. I'm pretty sure back to back perfect games have never happened so I don't see that being a possiblity. A lot of old established records that are still talked about are just impossible to break in todays game, especially when it comes to pitching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gatornibs Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Ripken's will never ever be broken. With the amount of games and injuries nowadays, it's impossible. No hitters and Cy Young's will never be broken. NFL team going perfect or winning 3 or more straight. Same with College, no team is gonna beat the 35 or whatever it is consecutive streak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobbyWhioux Report post Posted June 18, 2003 I see Soriano breaking the lead off home run record. Doesn't he bat second though? If Soriano is a leadoff guy for most of his career he might have a shot (if he sticks around long enough). Does he hit leadoff though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MaxPower27 Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Lemueix(sp)'s every kind of goal record will never be tied, that was the ultimate combination of skill and luck. I think Gretzky holds about 60 records. That's a few more than Super Mario. Not to one up you, but just felt like I'd correct you there. Gretz has 894 goals and 1963 assists for a grand total of 2857 points. The closest to him in points is Gordie Howe, who is a little more than 1000 points away The only real All-Time that is in jeopardy in hockey depends on how much longer Brett Hull plays. He's at 716 goals now. I think 56 is one that will never get broken. I mean, the closest last year was Luis Castillo with, what, 43 games? and he STILL needed 13 games to TIE IT!!! I don't think there is a hitter that can do it, as much as I like Pujols and Ichiro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest undisputedjericho Report post Posted June 18, 2003 I see Soriano breaking the lead off home run record. He won't be a leadoff hitter his whole career. Nolan Ryan's 7 no-no's. How many does the second closest guy have? 2? 3? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Unless there is a huge, constant meltdown for the next century or so, the Yankees record of 26 championships is pretty safe. I don't think it's possible to hit in 56 straight games. You're going to run into a day where you hit the ball perfectly 4 or 5 times and somebody's gonna be there to rob you. Or, you get a less than generous official scorer. It's just the game. 73 home runs will be broken. The guy might not be in the majors yet, though. 70 was broken to quickly for me to think otherwise. Canadiens are at 24, they'll hit 27 before 2030. P.S.: Gretzky's meaningful records won't be touched. By that I mean season or all-time goals, assists, or points. Brett Hull won't touch them. I understand Forsberg broke Wayne's record of most goals scored on a game played on New Year's Day, but that doesn't mean shit. No team sport has ever had anyone like Gretzky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Perfect NFL season will never happen, be it 16-0 or 0-16. I thought the Dolphins and Buccaneers both had perfects at either end of the spectrum, but I don't know if they were 16-game seasons. I just know that both did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 18, 2003 19-0 and 0-14 respectively... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Pete Rose had 44 in 1978. Walter Johnson's 110 Shutouts is unbreakable. Pitchers don't get enough CG's to come close. Babe Ruth's career .690 slugging % Barry Bonds single season Walk to K ratio. 198/46. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Same with College, no team is gonna beat the 35 or whatever it is consecutive streak Oklahoma holds the record with 47 consecutive wins. Miami would still have a 35 game winning streak, if the refs hadn't blown the Fiesta Bowl. They could of tied or maybe broken the record with a perfect season. That was one of the reasons I wanted Miami to win that game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted June 18, 2003 19-0 and 0-14 respectively... Wasn't it 17-0? I thought it was a 14 game season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Both happen in the 70s right? I doubt anybody will break those records any time soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nl5xsk1 Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Comments on previous referenced unbreakables: - The 1972 Dolphins went 17-0 (14 regular season wins and 3 playoff wins) - I think that a perfect season is more likely to happen than a season with NO wins. The Bears came close, the Broncos came close, the Rams came close. It'll happen one year. But losing them all is next to impossible - even a blind squirrel can occasionally find a nut - Ryan's 7 no-hitters is only 2 ahead of the next closest (Sandy Koufax) but no one active has more than one or two, so that's safe for a long time. Potentially breakable, but not soon. - Most of the old-school baseball ones are safe: Cy Young's 511 wins is untouchable as is his record for most career losses. Those - like Johnson's shutout record - are untouchable because people don't play so long now. - When Ghettoman referred to Lemieux scoring "every kind of goal" I think he meant the game when he scored 5 different ways (even strenght, shorty, powerplay, penalty shot, and empty net) there aren't any other ways to score, so that can only be tied and not broken. Two new ones, both hockey: - Gretzky's career points ... the closest active is Messier and he's not going to get near it. No one playing now will play long enough to break it. - Bobby Orr winning the Norris trophy 8 years in a row. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Star Ocean 3 Report post Posted June 18, 2003 The vast majority of the records mentioned will be broken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Ty Cobb's lifetime batting average. Forget about that one. You'd have to be the best hitter in baseball for a LONG LONG time. .367 is hard enough to do one season...try a whole career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Spaceman Spiff Report post Posted June 18, 2003 I don't think an NFL team will ever go unbeaten again. You figure the team would have to get all the breaks over the course of the season, not have any "off" games, and not have any injuries to key players. Some of the greatest teams in recent history (85 Bears, 84 49ers, 1st Rams SB team, Broncos 1st SB win) couldn't do it. How about Marino's single season records: 48 TD's and 5048 yards. You'd have to throw 3 TD's every game and average ~313 yards/game. Playing games in GB or Buff. in the winter would throw a QB way off average. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted June 18, 2003 I do think an NFL team can go through a season undefeated, but winning it? I dunno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingpk Report post Posted June 18, 2003 I think a pitcher breaking 5000K's won't happen very soon. Clemens just reached 4000 and I don't think he's going to have 5 more seasons of 200K's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted June 18, 2003 - When Ghettoman referred to Lemieux scoring "every kind of goal" I think he meant the game when he scored 5 different ways (even strenght, shorty, powerplay, penalty shot, and empty net) there aren't any other ways to score, so that can only be tied and not broken. What if someone decides to consider 4-on-4 and full-strength different scoring scenarios? Personally, I wouldn't, because they're both even-strength, but who knows how shitty the NHL will get in the next few years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest phoenixrising Report post Posted June 18, 2003 With the era of the five man rotation and the increased use of the bullpen, most of the pitching records will be unbreakable - the only ones I think that could still be broken is Ryan's 383 strikeouts (Johnson has come close a few times to breaking it) and relief stats (saves, games appeared in). Though I am surprised that Bobby Thigpen's save record has stood so long (Thigpen saved 57 games in 1990). Marino's record - Kurt Warner came close but fell short (4,830 yards in 2001). Wasn't Bledsoe on pace this year for the first half of the season as well? With parity the way it is in the NFL, I don't think we'll be seeing any undefeated teams for a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 18, 2003 Smoltz is crushing Thigpen's record this year... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted June 18, 2003 I think it was on the Jim Rome show, he brought up the fact that no one will ever pitch 3 No Hitters in a row. The current record is 2 in a row by Johnny Vander Meer in 1938. Im gonna go with that. No way a pitcher gets 81 batters out in a row. Someone might get 2 back to back, but 3 will never happen. I was listening to that same show (as I do basicly every day), and I agree with this one 100%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
