Guest UndertakerHart Report post Posted June 21, 2003 I'm sorry smarks! The WWE is evil. Rock vs Austin draws money. And Triple H and the nWo drew money in the past. At the Royal Rumble, Jericho should have dropped it to the Rock. The Rock is the greatest transitional champ ever. The month before Vengence, Jericho beat the Rock. Brock vs Angle was overshadowed by Hogan vs. McMahon. Brock and Kurt are being held down. I'm never watching Smackdown again ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2003 Even though, its Monday Night RAHHHW, Jericho still rules. He, Booker T, or RVD deserve to be the next World Heavyweight Champion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmclennan 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2003 I dislike Randy Orton immensely. Number one, he's incredibly bland, and the only thing he has in his favour is that his dad wrestled. Of course, Vince has a history of putting rather untalented people on Television just because of their parentage. And the other thing is that he's less wrestling ability in his entire body than Brock Lesnar does. Not that I'm that big a fan of Brock's... btw, did anybody else see that segment on RAW when Ric Flair, who is getting close to pension-time, went over the top flawlessly, whereas Orton, who is barely into his 20s, damn near pulled a muscle coming down? I found that hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 21, 2003 I'm sorry smarks! The WWE is evil. Rock vs Austin draws money. And Triple H and the nWo drew money in the past. So you are admitting that they gave Chris a shitty reign. And, nWo drew money 1996-1998ish. HHH drew money in 2000. This was 2002. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2003 That promo he cut on monday night was what he really needed. I don't mind him, and I think he could be a big name in five years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 21, 2003 He needed to a cut a Indy level Wonderboy promo as he flubbed his lines? Putting him in the ring with three class promo workers only exposes him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big McLargeHuge Report post Posted June 22, 2003 It's odd. They'll push certain guys (Brock and Rocky Maivia) to the moon and won't give up until the fans accept or reject them. While other guys get half-hearted title pushes (Jericho) or are dropped from Main Event programs after a month (see RVD and Booker) because... well, I don't know why, to be honest. Why push guys who don't get any reaction over guys who do? Isn't the potential to draw greater with the latter? Maybe I'm just crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 22, 2003 Are questioning WWE logic? Simple Lesnar and Orton like Rock are there creations... Jericho was made in WCW RVD in ECW Booker in WCW Benoit in Japan/WCW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2003 (edited) <<<Are questioning WWE logic? Simple Lesnar and Orton like Rock are there creations... Jericho was made in WCW RVD in ECW Booker in WCW Benoit in Japan/WCW>>> Discrimnation only makes Vince a dumbass and he wonders why WWE is shitty nowadays? But then again, Vince not only did he allow Jericho to become the WCW Champ again and also the WWE(F) Champ (therefore becoming the first Undisputed Champion), but he also gave Jericho the WM ME spot. So maybe there might be hope for the other guys... Edited June 22, 2003 by Rico_Constantino Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rob Edwards Report post Posted June 22, 2003 I'm sorry smarks! The WWE is evil. Rock vs Austin draws money. And Triple H and the nWo drew money in the past. So you are admitting that they gave Chris a shitty reign. And, nWo drew money 1996-1998ish. HHH drew money in 2000. This was 2002. Yup we do have to take timescales into account with these things, infact had Mania 17 been yesterday I'd probably actually think they were going to give th eIron Sheik a big push As far as Orton goes he's a really average guy with a bit of charisma, fine push new people and all but you have to do these things bit by bit and to me Randy is the kind of guy who'll need someone already over to work with if he's going to draw anything, which is why they need to turn Jericho face and actually go through with the push Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 22, 2003 So your justifying Jericho laying down on the tracks again to be run over by the not over train? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rob Edwards Report post Posted June 22, 2003 From a business standpoint yes, WWE needs someone with charisma willing to make new stars, I don't think face Jericho would be harmed too much by the odd loss as long as he won the majority of matches anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 22, 2003 Jericho is *dead* - nothing can bring him back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 22, 2003 ^ I wouldn't be so sure about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 22, 2003 I would. Mania ended it for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted June 22, 2003 Jericho is *dead* - nothing can bring him back. 2 things would: 1) properly built clean win over goldberg 2) face turn with a properly handled clean win over triple h in a big match now...i'm not saying either will EVER happen. but one or both of them WOULD bring him back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2003 So does this mean Batista is out of Suckalution? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted June 23, 2003 And the other thing is that he's less wrestling ability in his entire body than Brock Lesnar does. Come on. This figure of speech makes it seem as if Brock has no wrestling talent. By the way, yes, Batista has become the Chuck Cunningham of Evolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2003 By the way, yes, Batista has become the Chuck Cunningham of Evolution. huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EdwardKnoxII Report post Posted June 23, 2003 QUOTE By the way, yes, Batista has become the Chuck Cunningham of Evolution. huh? On the TV show Happy Days when it started Mr. C had 3 kids, Chuck, Richie, and the daughter (can't remember her name). Chuck was the oldest who would also come home from college and he would always be playing with a basketball. Well some time during the (I think) 1st season Chuck just disappear without a trace and Mr. C stated that he only had 2 kids instead of 3. So, in other words, Evolution has acted as if Batista was never with them in the first place like Chuck in Happy Days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2003 On the TV show Happy Days when it started Mr. C had 3 kids, Chuck, Richie, and the daughter (can't remember her name). Chuck was the oldest who would also come home from college and he would always be playing with a basketball. Well some time during the (I think) 1st season Chuck just disappear without a trace and Mr. C stated that he only had 2 kids instead of 3. So, in other words, Evolution has acted as if Batista was never with them in the first place like Chuck in Happy Days. That's fucked up, you mean to tell me even Batista of all people has heat on him?!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted June 23, 2003 QUOTE By the way, yes, Batista has become the Chuck Cunningham of Evolution. huh? On the TV show Happy Days when it started Mr. C had 3 kids, Chuck, Richie, and the daughter (can't remember her name). Chuck was the oldest who would also come home from college and he would always be playing with a basketball. Well some time during the (I think) 1st season Chuck just disappear without a trace and Mr. C stated that he only had 2 kids instead of 3. So, in other words, Evolution has acted as if Batista was never with them in the first place like Chuck in Happy Days. I was hoping we'd all get that. Oh well. Hey, did they do that with Eric's sister on That 70s Show on purpose? She pulled a Chuck too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Insane Bump Machine Report post Posted June 23, 2003 On the TV show Happy Days when it started Mr. C had 3 kids, Chuck, Richie, and the daughter (can't remember her name). Chuck was the oldest who would also come home from college and he would always be playing with a basketball. Well some time during the (I think) 1st season Chuck just disappear without a trace and Mr. C stated that he only had 2 kids instead of 3. So, in other words, Evolution has acted as if Batista was never with them in the first place like Chuck in Happy Days. That's fucked up, you mean to tell me even Batista of all people has heat on him?!! That just means that Batista is incredibly injury prone due to steroids. He tore his triceps(?) or something and will still be out for a couple of months. He'll probably be pushed again if/when he returns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EdwardKnoxII Report post Posted June 23, 2003 I was hoping we'd all get that. Oh well. Hey, did they do that with Eric's sister on That 70s Show on purpose? She pulled a Chuck too. I know they did they that to Judy, the youngest daughter, on Family Matters. I use to joke that Judy was killed by one of Urkel's machines gone wild and after it was said and done Urkel made a machine that wipe the family minds of Judy of ever being born. And they also pulled that with Morgan, the youngest daughter, on Boy Meets World but, they did bring her back played by a different girl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2003 Brock vs Angle was overshadowed by Hogan vs. McMahon. Sure, Hogan/McMahon was the highlight of WM, but Angle/Lesnar was obviously the better match although Hogan/McMahon did blow away my expectations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 23, 2003 Simple wins can't save Jericho. People will just see his win over Goldberg and HHH as a fluke and continue to see him as a putz. The guy has ZERO credibility - like AS said - he lost whatever he had left at WM when he couldn't "step out of the shadow" of Shawn Michaels and prove himself. Jericho never be a strong wrestler again. He will always be seen as the guy who is holding the belt for another guy, rather than being the guy with the belt being held for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 23, 2003 how did this go from a Orton Bashing to HHH bashing to a Happy Days covention? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted June 23, 2003 Sunday, Monday, Happy Days. Tuesday, Wednesday, Happy Days. Thursday, Friday, Happy Days. The weekend comes, My cycle hums, Ready to race to you. These days are all, Happy and Free. (Those Happy Days) These days are all, Share them with me. (oh baby) Goodbye grey sky, hello blue. There's nothing can hold me when I hold you. Feels so right, it can't be wrong. Rockin' and rollin' all week long. Sunday, Monday, Happy Days. Tuesday, Wednesday, Happy Days. Thursday, Friday, Happy Days. Saturday, What a day, Groovin' all week with you. These days are all, Share them with me. (Those Happy Days) These days are all, Happy and Free. (oh baby) These Happy Days are your's and mine. These Happy Days are your's and mine, Happy Days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mattdotcom Report post Posted June 23, 2003 You sound surprised it ended up like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2003 <<<Simple wins can't save Jericho. People will just see his win over Goldberg and HHH as a fluke and continue to see him as a putz. The guy has ZERO credibility - like AS said - he lost whatever he had left at WM when he couldn't "step out of the shadow" of Shawn Michaels and prove himself. Jericho never be a strong wrestler again. He will always be seen as the guy who is holding the belt for another guy, rather than being the guy with the belt being held for him.>>> It was pretty much the best match on the night next to Angle / Lesnar, but the wrong man went over, but then again it was HBK's comeback WM. It would have been way better if Jericho won, especially if he did it clean. Pure bragging rights there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites