At this rate

[Guest Anglesault]

Actually, in some other thread I remember you saying that you didn't give a shit about the midcard and that being in it meant your career was going nowhere.

 

I meant he didn't HAVE to Main event wretlemania. Hogan and Rock didn't main event it, but they are still main eventers.

 

That's not what diverse means, idiot-fag.  I figured you might be joking ... but it's you.

 

Ok, First of all, idiot-fag? And Do you really think Kurt Angle is going to be fighting for the title next year? No, neither did I. Facing Austin? He may not even be in the company. Then HHH, Taker, Rock, Hogan, nash and Jericho can pair off. That leaves midcarders for Kurt.

[Guest Anglesault]

and that even Maven is more over than him.

 

No, not more over, more valued.

Okay, when Maven starts getting 45 minutes of airtime on Raw and is doing commercials for phone companies, then I'll take the Test shirt.

 

Mavne's moving UP the ladder. Unlike Kurt.

[Guest The Man in Blak]

Do you really think Kurt Angle is going to be fighting for the title next year? No, neither did I. Facing Austin? He may not even be in the company. Then HHH, Taker, Rock, Hogan, nash and Jericho can pair off. That leaves midcarders for Kurt.

Angle has an issue with Triple H from No Way Out so maybe Angle will end up cashing in on that feud with Triple H for the title sometime around SummerSlam.

 

Once Rock's done caddying for Hogan, I'm sure he'll be open to opportunities with Angle - they haven't feuded in a while, so that will be reminiscing some good stuff.

 

Hell, they could even spin him into Benoit and have those two light up PPVs all the way through summer by continuing their feud.

 

There ARE possibilities.

 

[Guest the BURNHAM]

If the NWO is a group of main event heels, and rock and hogan are main event faces, and they are fueding;  And if Ric Flair says he's getting Kane to combat the NWO on Raw, then wouldn't that mean Kane is a main event face by default?  Therefore last month Kurt's match was between two main eventers at WM.

 

Jericho tonight went against Matt Hardy, who isn't really a main eventer, right?  All signs point to HHH vs. UT for Backlash, so no rematch seems in sight.  Therefore Jericho will probably be in the midcard, right?

 

Rock a few years ago went into a fued with Billy Gunn, during his time as a top face, remember the Kiss my Ass match?  Billy Gunn wasn't a Top heel right?

 

Austin and HHH were fueding for a little less than a month with the Hardy Boys when they traded wins over the IC title.

 

Foley fueded with Val Venis over frikkin' Rocko!!

 

UT was recently in a tag match against Kronik and fueded with a non main event DDP.

 

If Kurt is forced to retire due to HHH and the NWO and the Kliq, and Vince Russo's secret politicing, and the Secret police, and the Russian Mafia, and Hulk Hogan, and Ultra Conservatives holding him down, there are still grosser injustices in this world that deserve your time and energy moreso than this.  

 

Angle will be fine, he's young and good in the ring, he's all over my tv and although he hasn't really yet, will draw huge.  So don't worry about it, there are worser things in wrestling than what's going on with him.

[Guest Anglesault]

If the NWO is a group of main event heels, and rock and hogan are main event faces, and they are fueding;  And if Ric Flair says he's getting Kane to combat the NWO on Raw, then wouldn't that mean Kane is a main event face by default?  Therefore last month Kurt's match was between two main eventers at WM.

 

No way was Kane a main eventer last month.

 

Jericho tonight went against Matt Hardy, who isn't really a main eventer, right?  All signs point to HHH vs. UT for Backlash, so no rematch seems in sight.  Therefore Jericho will probably be in the midcard, right?

 

Rock a few years ago went into a fued with Billy Gunn, during his time as a top face, remember the Kiss my Ass match?  Billy Gunn wasn't a Top heel right?

 

Austin and HHH were fueding for a little less than a month with the Hardy Boys when they traded wins over the IC title.

 

Foley fueded with Val Venis over frikkin' Rocko!!

 

UT was recently in a tag match against Kronik and fueded with a non main event DDP.

 

None of that ws three months a pop.

[Guest the BURNHAM]

Yeh but if Kane is a main eventer one month after the fact, if Kurt was able to get people to care about Kane, then he did his damn job.  More equal main eventers=good thing.  No invincible faces or heels.  If the marks believe that Kane can take on the nwo it makes for a better product.  Stop being so selfish about Kurt.  

 

And no, perhaps none of the fueds were three months long but the point is that some of Edge's past fueds had the potential to be good but were either shelved by bad booking or bad participation.  With Kurt hopefully we'll get niether.

[Guest Anglesault]

Yeh but if Kane is a main eventer one month after the fact, if Kurt was able to get people to care about Kane, then he did his damn job.  More equal main eventers=good thing.  No invincible faces or heels.  If the marks believe that Kane can take on the nwo it makes for a better product.  Stop being so selfish about Kurt.  

 

And no, perhaps none of the fueds were three months long but the point is that some of Edge's past fueds had the potential to be good but were either shelved by bad booking or bad participation.  With Kurt hopefully we'll get niether.

But how many months in a row must he elevate mid carders?

[Guest The Man in Blak]

Given that there's already an abundance of midcard talent as well as main event talent, I don't think it will really be that long.

 

[Guest Anglesault]

Huh?

[Guest The Man in Blak]

Y'know, wandering around through WDI, I happened to come across something.

 

Quote:

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You'll probably get it back once Angle's put in a nice main event program.

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What does that have to do with anything? And considering he is the only Big heel in Smackdown, that is like, NEXT WEEK.

 

I realize I've taken this a little out of context, so explain.

*raises eyebrow*

 

[Guest Anglesault]

Uhm..yeah.. LOOK IT'S RICKY STEAMBOAT!

 

::runs away::

[Guest Anglesault]

Steamboat never fails

[Guest imajackoff?]

Er, I don't work well under the pressure of anime girls holding Dan Severn hostage but...

 

I say by "a couple of broken eggs" is that they have to give Edge a little bit of victorious "face time" so that it doesn't look like Angle's treating him like a jobber.  Unfortunately, for now, that means SPEARS GALORE~! but maybe, after Edge and Angle trade off wins and one-ups in this feud, and it becomes a little more intense (mentions of past friendships, both helping each other win in the past), Edge can move forward to other methods of destruction, like beating Angle with the Canadian flag or sending children rigged with C4 into his dressing room or something.

Hmmm.... far be it from me to point out ideas to the wwf creative team of which Im *sure* they have already considered, but how about Christian being the "mr. perfect" of this feud circa Savage/Warrior 92.  These 3 were pretty much a clique for awhile. How about playing on that and having Christian be the one we're not sure of.

 

Or we could just have him job on Heat.

[Guest The Man in Blak]

Well, it IS outside of Cornette's Seven Year Statute of Limitations.

 

Sounds like a great idea.

 

[Guest Anglesault]

Sounds like a long, drawn out midcard feud.

[Guest The Man in Blak]

I doubt it would last 9 months.

[Guest goodhelmet]

I'm coming on the tail end of this conversation so I'll just say Kurt fights for the women's title next year after a highly publicized sex change after defeating a recently returned Chyna.

[Guest Anglesault]

Well thanks. It has to last at least two to get off the ground, and Edge HAS to win when Christian sides with him.

[Guest imajackoff?]

Yeh but if Kane is a main eventer one month after the fact, if Kurt was able to get people to care about Kane, then he did his damn job.  More equal main eventers=good thing.  No invincible faces or heels.  If the marks believe that Kane can take on the nwo it makes for a better product.  Stop being so selfish about Kurt.  

 

And no, perhaps none of the fueds were three months long but the point is that some of Edge's past fueds had the potential to be good but were either shelved by bad booking or bad participation.  With Kurt hopefully we'll get niether.

But how many months in a row must he elevate mid carders?

As many months as there are people that can be effectively elavated.  Everybody knows that Kurt is the shit, ESPECIALLY VINCE.  As long as he stays healthy and his character is fresh, he will be at or near the top.  Stop complaining that your favorite rassler isnt the champ.

[Guest Anglesault]

Yeh but if Kane is a main eventer one month after the fact, if Kurt was able to get people to care about Kane, then he did his damn job.  More equal main eventers=good thing.  No invincible faces or heels.  If the marks believe that Kane can take on the nwo it makes for a better product.  Stop being so selfish about Kurt.  

 

And no, perhaps none of the fueds were three months long but the point is that some of Edge's past fueds had the potential to be good but were either shelved by bad booking or bad participation.  With Kurt hopefully we'll get niether.

But how many months in a row must he elevate mid carders?

As many months as there are people that can be effectively elavated.  Everybody knows that Kurt is the shit, ESPECIALLY VINCE.  As long as he stays healthy and his character is fresh, he will be at or near the top.  Stop complaining that your favorite rassler isnt the champ.

Sp he can never main event again. there is an endless supply of midcarders to elevate.

 

AND HE'S NOT HEALTHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest The Man in Blak]

And if/then, once Edge wins (if he wins), then Angle moves on to bigger and better things.

[Guest Anglesault]

And if/then, once Edge wins (if he wins), then Angle moves on to bigger and better things.

Or he is the guy who just lost a five month feud to a midcarder and becomes the next Big Show or Kane.

[Guest The Man in Blak]

Well, if Angle gives him the necessary rub, then he becomes the guy that helped put over a future main eventer and moved onto bigger and better things.

[Guest Anglesault]

One question. Name one Main event heel who ever lost a long feud to a midcarder and ever recovered? Killed Kane, killed Big Show, several others

[Guest imajackoff?]

So he can never main event again. there is an endless supply of midcarders to elevate.

 

AND HE'S NOT HEALTHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

There isnt an endless supply to be elevated. Plus, it would'nt be good business to elevate too many in a short period of time.  By pro wrestler standards, he IS healthy.  His body hasn't caused him to regress in the ring (hello HHH).

[Guest Anglesault]

And why is it Kurt who has to keep doing it? Jericho isn't doing anything either.

[Guest The Man in Blak]

If you consider Chris Jericho to be up there, he lost a pretty excruciating feud with Kane.  (edit - I'll stand corrected on that one.)

 

And I think Kurt Angle has enough talent and personality to make it work.

[Guest Anglesault]

Jericho beat Kane in a last man standing match

[Guest The Man in Blak]

And why is it Kurt who has to keep doing it? Jericho isn't doing anything either.

Jericho's potentially feuding with the Hardyz, so I think that's a moot point.

[Guest Anglesault]

Two different shows