Guest benoitrulz4life Report post Posted June 24, 2003 Don't know if there are any hardcore fans on the board, but I made this poll anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted June 24, 2003 Probably Converge. Out of that list of punk bands, DK is definitely my favorite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest La Parka Es Mi Papa Report post Posted June 24, 2003 WARNING: Nitpicking ahead. Black Flag and Minor Threat are the only hardcore bands on there. Dead Kennedys, Misfits, and Bad Religion are just straight up punk. At any rate, my vote goes to Minor Threat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest benoitrulz4life Report post Posted June 24, 2003 No, they're hardcore punk. They play faster, harder, and are more angry, aggressive, and violent than straight-up punk (Sex Pistols, Ramones, early Clash). But who really cares, everyone has their own opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest La Parka Es Mi Papa Report post Posted June 24, 2003 Ehh, Bad Religion, maybe, but I'd say the Dead Kennedys and The Misfits are about equal to the old school punk bands when it comes to anger and agression. But at any rate, it's just a label. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted June 24, 2003 The Misfits helped jumpstart the NY/NJ hardcore scene, so I'd definitely say their very early stuff was hardcore punk. I chose "Other." Why? Because Toxic Narcotic smokes 'em all. BHC! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted June 24, 2003 Hatebreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted June 24, 2003 I'd say it's a toss-up between Minor Threat and Bad Religion, leaning more toward Greg Graffin and Co… I'm just a big sucker for multiple-part harmonies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffin Surfer Report post Posted June 24, 2003 (edited) The Misfits helped jumpstart the NY/NJ hardcore scene, so I'd definitely say their very early stuff was hardcore punk. No, more like their later stuff(Earth A.D). Edited June 24, 2003 by Coffin Surfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nl5xsk1 Report post Posted June 24, 2003 I picked Minor Threat, but only because they did so much for the scene in such a short period of time. (and because because I couldn't choose just one choice to fit the "other" category). AoO: I think of Converge as more metal than hardcore, but that's just me. La Parka: How can you say BF is more hardcore than the DKs? Both are in that gray area where punk meets hardcore, but "In God We Trust, Inc." is more hardcore than anything BF ever released. I'll agree with Misfits and BR being punk more than hardcore though. And I wish the poll had more choices: where's the Exploited? GBH? Gang Green? Agnostic Front? Slapshot? The Business? (although they might be considered more OI! than hardcore) If these bands were listed as well, it most likely would have been the Exploited or AF. Lastly, I know some of the posters here still post in the wrestling boards, too: did anyone else notice the NYHC on Dudley's wrist tape last night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nl5xsk1 Report post Posted June 24, 2003 The Misfits helped jumpstart the NY/NJ hardcore scene, so I'd definitely say their very early stuff was hardcore punk. No, more like their later stuff(Earth A.D). Sorry to do two posts back to back, but I wanted to quote this one and forgot to originally, and don't know how to edit a post to add a quote: I agree that it would have to be their later stuff, especially Earth A.D. ... their early stuff was closer to rockabilly than punk or hardcore (especially "Come Back"). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest La Parka Es Mi Papa Report post Posted June 24, 2003 I consider Bad Religion more of a hardcore band than the Dead Kennedys because they were more consistantly faster and heavier throughout their career. It doesn't really matter, because really, the distinction between hardcore and punk is very much a matter of personal preference. I, personally, enjoy every band on this poll quite a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye Report post Posted June 24, 2003 no Sick Of It All = no vote from me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nunzio Cardozo Report post Posted June 24, 2003 no Slipknot = no vote for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye Report post Posted June 24, 2003 Slipknot isn't hardcore. Not even close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest La Parka Es Mi Papa Report post Posted June 24, 2003 Slipknot is CRAP-core. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KANE Report post Posted June 25, 2003 How about Snot? They only have one CD, but it's a great time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted June 25, 2003 ?did anyone else notice the NYHC on Dudley's wrist tape last night? Yes. He always does it when he's in NYC. I'd be curious as to why he does it, i.e. is he into a certain band, the scene as a whole, was he in a band at some point, etc. And I agree with La Parka.There is a very fine line between HC and punk, defined by each individual as he/she sees fit. I tend to go for the more melodic stuff myself, but I never turn down a listen to stuff like Shelter, Gorilla Biscuits or Snapcase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest benoitrulz4life Report post Posted June 25, 2003 Sick of It All, hell yeah! I didn't know anybody really liked them on this board. "Blood, Sweat, & No Tears" is one of my top 10 favorite punk albums. I can't believe I forgot Bad Brains on there, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest La Parka Es Mi Papa Report post Posted June 25, 2003 Ehh, Sick Of It All is overrated, but Bad Brains, you should be shot for forgetting them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted June 25, 2003 The Meat Men. THE MEAT MEN! WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE MEAT MEN?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Edwin MacPhisto Report post Posted June 25, 2003 Minor Threat gets my vote. Admittedly, it's mostly because of my wanton Fugazi-love, but I do like the early MacKaye as well. Damaged puts Black Flag at a close second, but the rest of their material was so up-down iffy that second is the best they can do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest gangsteruwa Report post Posted June 25, 2003 Minor Threat has the sound that gets me to think "Hardcore." So I voted for them. What says hardcore more than getting one's entire discography on one cd? I like all the bands on that list. However, as already stated, some of those bands fall more under the punk category than the hardcore category. If it was favorite Punk/Hardcore band...guess who I would have chosen? ::points to avatar:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nl5xsk1 Report post Posted June 25, 2003 The Meat Men. THE MEAT MEN! WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE MEAT MEN?! One of the biggest regrets of my entire life was missing the chance to see Tesco Vee and the Hate Police play in Denver in 1994. I figured I could just see them another time, and haven't had an opportunity since. (thinks of Homer J Simpson procastinating and missing the chance to see Mr. T at the mall ... and weeps) But having said that, the Meatmen aren't hardcore. They're punk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest benoitrulz4life Report post Posted June 25, 2003 I felt kind of guilty buying Minor Threat's "Complete Discography". Like I was somehow supporting the emo movement or something, even though emo is kind of like the bastard lovechild of hardcore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted June 25, 2003 Well, I suppose which Meatmen song, nl. "Pope On A Rope" sounds pretty fucking hardcore to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 hmm weird choices to pick from considering they are all basically punk metalcore: Converge (duh look at the name ) ZAO Bloodlet SHai Hulud regular textbook hardcore Adamantium Blackbelt Acme Tesco Vee and the Meatmen are in punk where they belong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
