Guest HartFan86 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Douglas looked sloppy, Raven looked legitally hurt, and Jarrett & Gilberti did mostly sloppy brawling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted June 26, 2003 I really hope Raven is alright so I can see him on ROH this Saturday. The main event sucking should not be a shocker. Raven and Douglas are awful and Disco can't be taken seriously. Jarrett can't do the work of three men. The show was pretty good overall- Although I HATE BS finishes in main events Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 in case no one ever checks the bottom of the last page I want to reiterate my opinion that the person who came up with throwing Skipper out of the cage is a genius. AMW finally has the numbers advatage and gets the win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BoboBrazil Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Yeah this show really went down after the first hour. I was getting ready to call it the best TNA ever too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted June 26, 2003 I thought that was a great touch as well bps- Poor Elix- He got killed tonight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Elix was a trooper out there. I thought for sure someone would fall off the cage (which was alot taller looking than the old WCW cages...and without the catwalk at the top or wires to hold onto) but thankfully no one did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 It was just such a great use of the cage gimmick. The whole "no one can get in" thing was used brilliantly with one of the competitors being the guy who couldn't get in! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Daniels getting all freaked when he couldn't open the door- GOLD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BoboBrazil Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Oh yeah, and they totally backed out on the Shark Boy thing. WTF was that? He just beat on him some and then walked away. He didn't try to rip off his mask. The Trinity thing also makes no sense or the Mitchell thing in the main event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Raven_Effect01 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Oh yeah, and they totally backed out on the Shark Boy thing. WTF was that? He just beat on him some and then walked away. He didn't try to rip off his mask. The Trinity thing also makes no sense or the Mitchell thing in the main event. Yeah, that's WWE-book--I mean, TNA-booking for you. Damn, I can't tell the difference between the two these days except for the X-Division and the TNA dancers. Speaking of TNA's booking being similar to WWE's, I now officially declare AJ Styles the weakest-booked World Heavyweight Champion since Chris Jericho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BoboBrazil Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Actually AJ is being booked the way a heel champion has usually been throughout history, where he can't beat guys without help. He destroyed D'lo after the match. You are just used to HHH's unstoppable push. I have a feeling they are grooming D'lo to be the next contender for the world title after AJ gets done with this Jarrett match he has to do within the next two weeks. Russo did say they had 30 days right? It has already been two weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Styles has held the title for 2 weeks. Give him some fucking time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Raven_Effect01 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Think of it this way: How did Jericho win the WWE Undisputed title: With the help of an authority figure named Vince. How did AJ win the NWA World Heavyweight title: With the help of an authority figure named Vince. What happened after Jericho won the Undisputed title? He won over Stone Cold in a Cage match only because Booker T came out and helped Jericho. What happened after AJ won the NWA title? He lost cleanly in a tag match against Jarrett, and this week, Russo had to help AJ Styles beat up D-Lo Brown while AJ's main offense in this match was brawling instead of the familiar high-flying we're used to seeing from him. I thought this was TNA, not some promotion that waters down a wrestler's style *cough cough* WWE *cough cough*. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Yeah, Raven's injury made the whole hot tag feel kind of off to me. Like he did the running splash all slow, ran off the ropes slow, etc, as compared to his usual burst of energy leading up to the running knee lift. I am getting tired of seeing non-finishes to our main events, they need to cut back. I assume this means Sabin has to defend against Kazarian now, right? Good stuff, but I think it'll be tough to follow up their match tonight, which was really good. Sabin is quickly becoming one of my favourite wrestlers. I also hope the Kash/Watts feud ends soon, it's just not doing it for me. Mainly because I don't see Kash going over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Meltzer said the injury was a work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Then I suppose kudos to Raven on the extended selling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted June 26, 2003 7. Jarrett & Raven beat Gilberti & Douglas in 11:05 via DQ when Mitchell threw fire at Raven. What I liked about the match is that Raven did a plancha right away and acted like he twisted his ankle. He sold his ankle on every step he took for the next 10:00. It was awesome. I bet almost everyone thought he was really hurt. The bad is I found out with my own eyes about Douglas in Australia, except he wasn't in Australia. He looked bad and parts of the match were pretty messed up. Crowd was into Douglas as a new main eventer. The wear and tear of all the work is starting to show in Jarrett. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Here's something GOOD to note about this week's show... NO WALTMAN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Well he worked it good. He even played it when he was fighting Douglas over by that table and the chair. The Trintity thing doesn't make sense, but I guess they needed a woman with SEX since Desire is hurt. Im surprised no one complained about Bitchslap being gone. I like Bitchslap. And if you watched earlier, Mitchell appeared in the main event because Douglas made a deal with the devil. Who betta than Mitchell? Then Julio and Alexis attacked Raven after the match but you didn't get a chance to see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Yeah, I assume they'll make more sense of the Trinity fiasco next week in some promo. So... does this mean Douglas is joining the New Church. Where's the sense in that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Well he worked it good. He even played it when he was fighting Douglas over by that table and the chair. The Trintity thing doesn't make sense, but I guess they needed a woman with SEX since Desire is hurt. Im surprised no one complained about Bitchslap being gone. I like Bitchslap. And if you watched earlier, Mitchell appeared in the main event because Douglas made a deal with the devil. Who betta than Mitchell? Then Julio and Alexis attacked Raven after the match but you didn't get a chance to see it. syxx- I love your sig but you need to mention that AJ is the reigning RoH tag champion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Raven_Effect01 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Im surprised no one complained about Bitchslap being gone. I like Bitchslap. Who's Bitchslap? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted June 26, 2003 I think it was that nurse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syxx2001 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Ah gay. I thought it was in there. And it was that nurse and some other chick. Tracy is her name right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Raven_Effect01 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 I remembered Tracy, but I couldn't think of the nurse at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Wasn't Tracy the school girl? Bah, I can't follow all these girls who come one week and leave the next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slapnuts00 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 My thoughts on the show: It was excellent. Some have accused me of never giving credit to Russo. Well I will tonight, since his "crash TV" formula of nonstop action worked...mostly because he allowed it to be nonstop wrestling and action, instead of boring promos full of insider stuff and cursing. -The cage match was seriously awesome, MOTYC by far. An exciting cage match with tons of great and smart spots for 30 minutes to start of the show. -Then, immediately after Dlo and Styles have an intense match in the cage, and even though it had a non finish, its ok since it shouldn't have been a match anyway. -Lynn/Credible was a creative brawl that ws much more satisfying then last week. -Xdivision match was really good. Great creative spots, and ANOTHER clean finish! -Even Kash vs. Watts was good, I thought Kash totally carried this one to something good. -New Jack and Shark Boy seriously crack me up. -I even laughed at Team Pothead's parody this week unlike last week. -Second hour lost a little steam. I liked the idea of the main event but to say it was sloppy would be an understatement. Just a trainwreck of a match with a seriously blown finish that dragged things down further. -Otherwise it was nearly a perfect show. Next week sounds a little iffy but after this week's performance I will gladly order next week's show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Styles is going to beat both D-Lo and Jarrett...so making them look like they can take him seems logical to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Tracy is the schoolgirl chick- She's from ECCW in Vancouver I think. Nurse Veronica is Simply Luscious in ROH. She was in the Prophecy for a while before switching over to Steve Corino's now defunt Group in January. As of January she was dating Corino Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BrokenWings Report post Posted June 26, 2003 Yeah, for people to already start complaining that AJ looks weak seems odd to me. They need to appear as credible threats to the title, AJ is playing the scared heel. It works fine. Thanks for clearing that up, Bob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites