Ultimo not allowed to use Dragon Sleeper?

[Guest bob_barron]

He was talking to Shane at the beginning of the invasion, and he had a match with Kaientai or something, so Show said he had to deal with a pair of silly little g--ks

JR: Bah gawd Big Show calling them a bunch of GOOFS. The nerve of him calling them GOOFS. Can you believe that Paul?

Paul: The Big Show showing no regard to his opponents by calling them GOOFS.

 

That was funny when they tried to cover up

[Guest Youth N Asia]

So he’s not only a big fat lazy slob, but he’s a big fat lazy racist slob.

Don't forget his ugly haircut

[Guest Anglesault]

He was talking to Shane at the beginning of the invasion, and he had a match with Kaientai or something, so Show said he had to deal with a pair of silly little g--ks

JR: Bah gawd Big Show calling them a bunch of GOOFS. The nerve of him calling them GOOFS. Can you believe that Paul?

Paul: The Big Show showing no regard to his opponents by calling them GOOFS.

 

That was funny when they tried to cover up

Yeah, that was good.

 

IIRC, Shane had a great look on his face as well.

[Guest cynicalprofit]

Ultimo is on america tv, no matter what moves he can or cant do, its still a good thing he is here.

[Guest Askewniverse]

He was talking to Shane at the beginning of the invasion, and he had a match with Kaientai or something, so Show said he had to deal with a pair of silly little g--ks

JR: Bah gawd Big Show calling them a bunch of GOOFS. The nerve of him calling them GOOFS. Can you believe that Paul?

Paul: The Big Show showing no regard to his opponents by calling them GOOFS.

 

That was funny when they tried to cover up

Yeah, that was good.

 

IIRC, Shane had a great look on his face as well.

The week before that was pretty funny as well.

 

Kaientai's interpreter: "They say that you remind them of Godzilla."

Big Show: "Godzilla, huh? Well, in that case, I'll take two eggrolls, and a bowl of wonton soup!"

[Rendclaw 0]

Ahh racist angles, you have HAVE to love them.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Dragon not being able to do the Dragon sleeper would be like if he didn't do the Asai moonsault...his name is in the damned thing.

 

Of course, I don't think he invented the Dragon sleeper, but that's just nitpicky.

He didn't. That Japanese wrestler who beat Ric Flair for the title once did.

[Guest Anglesault]

Ahh racist angles, you have HAVE to love them.

Who said anything about that being an angle?

[Lil' Bitch 0]

It was just amazing seeing Ultimo. Truly, the comeback story of the year. He looked great and from what I saw, he hasn't changed his style. He also had his outfit in silver, which was nifty. Along with new music, he had pyro that put Booker T's to shame. Of course, I was expecting the Dragon Sleeper, its what he was best known for when he was working in WCW (He was one of my favorite Cruiserweights). But now, he has that 360 Deathdrop (Diamond Cutter hold into backflip into Deathdrop), I was like "Holy shit!" when I saw it, I've never seen anything like that before. It was just plain badass. Sure, he might get a little too much help from his opponents, but its still cool regardless. I'm just glad the Dragon is back.

[Guest wildpegasus]

On the original topic of Ultimo not being allowed to use the dragon sleeper

 

I know it's not polite to use someone else's finisher but in the Undertapper's case it's becoming real annoying. He has a whole slew of finishers that other wrestlers should be allowed to use.

1)Powerbomb- This should just not be an Undertapper move. However he made it his move and when he's around you see noone else using it

2)Dragon Sleeper

3)Tombstone-Yet another move only allowed to be done by the Undertapper

[Guest Anglesault]

3)Tombstone-Yet another move only allowed to be done by the Undertapper

 

That's being unfair. The Tombstone is associated with the Undertaker more than anyone. I had always assumed that that's where it got the name "tombstone" (maybe not, what the hell do I know)

[Guest wildpegasus]

Maybe I should have clarified more. You make a good point but I meant the piledriver in general. I know there's a somewhat ban in the WWE but I still think it's unfair that the Undertapper has so many moves that are only allowed to be used by him.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Powerbomb- This should just not be an Undertapper move. However he made it his move and when he's around you see noone else using it

 

If you're talking about the Last Ride, its not so bad. At least he makes it different by lifting you straight up, pushing you further by your tights, and then just slamming your ass down. If just a "Powerbomb", I think Nash gets those rights.

 

2)Dragon Sleeper

 

I haven't seen him use it in a long time, its rare for Taker to use submissions, for finishers anyway. Usually, he does it on big / fat opponents, lets pray Ultimo does the Dragon Sleeper for old time's sake.

 

3)Tombstone-Yet another move only allowed to be done by the Undertapper

 

I'm very sure he invented the move. Only to see it get stolen by Fit Finley and Steve McMichael.

 

And don't forget the Undertaker's Chokeslam (Can't believe Hogan lost the title to this move... )

[Guest wildpegasus]

Quote: I'm very sure he invented the move

 

The Dynamite Kid and even Chris Benoit were using the tombstone before the Undertapper became famous using it althoght I have absolutely no idea who actually invented the tombstone piledriver. They would typically use it as a setup for the flying headbutt. Benoit usually uses a shoulderbreaker now which I don't really mind.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Undertaker didn't invent the Tombstone or the Chokeslam...

 

NOVA DID!

 

...seriously though...Dynamite Kid was using the Tombstone before Undertaker did...and I think Sid was using the chokeslam before Undertaker started to use it.

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Don Muraco used the Tombstone as a finisher in the 80's, also.

[Guest RollingSambos]

Yep. I think they called it the Asian Spike or something...

[Guest AndrewTS]

I don't think the move he won with was his finisher. It's obvious that it requires the opponent to cooperate with, and if we'd see an opponent get suckered into it every time Ultimo won, it would look lamer that falling in perfect position for the 619.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I don't think the move he won with was his finisher. It's obvious that it requires the opponent to cooperate with, and if we'd see an opponent get suckered into it every time Ultimo won, it would look lamer that falling in perfect position for the 619.

 

I'm very sure its his new finisher / WWE finisher. Its pretty tight, but we have to wait until Ultimo's next match to see if its really his finisher or just something he did on a whim and will bust out with the Dragon Sleeper next time...

[Guest AndrewTS]

I don't think the move he won with was his finisher. It's obvious that it requires the opponent to cooperate with, and if we'd see an opponent get suckered into it every time Ultimo won, it would look lamer that falling in perfect position for the 619.

 

I'm very sure its his new finisher / WWE finisher. Its pretty tight, but we have to wait until Ultimo's next match to see if its really his finisher or just something he did on a whim and will bust out with the Dragon Sleeper next time...

Yeah, maybe it was just a slightly blown spot, but it got a huge pop so he decided to go with it for the finisher to the match.

[Guest Goodear]

I know Undertaker didn't invent the tombstone, but I think before he started using it with regularity that it wasn't being actually called a "tombstone" piledriver. I certainly don't recall that being the case when Muraco and Bret Hart were using it as a finisher.

 

Anyway, when three guys use a choke-slam as a finish and four guys are using powerbomb variations, I don't think Ultimo Dragon is going to have much trouble using the sleeper. He probably just wanted to show off his new invention ... Sliced Bread #3?

[Guest The Czech Republic]

Kaientai's interpreter: "They say that you remind them of Godzilla."

Big Show: "Godzilla, huh? Well, in that case, I'll take two eggrolls, and a bowl of wonton soup!"

Don't forget:

 

I'm King Kurt. As king, I'm like your emperor, or "head ninja."

[Guest The Mighty Damaramu]

Hey that was funny when Kurt did it. The way he did it.....he had this serious look on his face the whole time.

[Guest CoreyLazarus416]

Kurt ALWAYS has a serious look on his face when he does comedic stuff. That's why he's hilarious.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I just get kick out of how Kurt's always hugging ppl especially Benoit who almost always has a serious look on his face. Classic.