Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted June 29, 2003 This isn't usually done until the All-Star break, but that's not for another 2 weeks. Plus, most teams are at the midway point of there schedule. AL MVP-Carlos Delgado. NL MVP-Albert Pujos. AL CY Young-Esteban Loaiza NL CY Young-Kevin Brown AL ROY-Rocco Baldelli NL ROY-Dontrell Willis AL Improved-Esteban Loaiza NL Improved-Kevin Brown AL MOY-Bob Melvin NL MOY-Bobby Cox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted June 29, 2003 Well, although a lot are the same, here's my list: AL MVP: Delgado NL MVP: Pujols AL Cy Young: Roy Halladay NL Cy Young: Kevin Brown (Like to be a homer and give it to Woody, but KB has had a better first half) AL ROY: Hideki Matsui NL ROY: Dontrell Willis AL Improved: Gil Meche/Vernon Wells NL Improved: Jose Guillen AL MOY: Tony Pena NL MOY: Bobby Cox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted June 29, 2003 AL Manager was between Melvin and Pena. Melvin wins it because it impresses me more if a team with exceptations lives up to them. The Mariners are doing that, and more. A manager making up ground in the NL is Bob Brenley. For me Loaiza is the biggest lock of anyone at this point. The Cy Young doesn't have to be on a winning team. It's the best pitcher. Loaiza has 11 wins, and an era of like 2.15. He's been the best pitcher in the American League this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted June 29, 2003 AL MVP: Carlos Delgado Leads AL in OPS and Slugging. Honourable mention to Melvin Mora, Nomar Garciaparra, and Bret Boone. AL Cy Young: Esteban Loazia I doubt he'll keep it up, but its about merit, not potential. AL RotY: Mike MacDougal "Mac the Ninth" saved 20 games for Royals. AL Manager: Carlos Tosca Not many expected the Blue Jays to compete already. NL MVP: Albert Pujols I was expecting to take Bonds again, but Pujols is going legitimately better. NL Cy Young: Kevin Brown Honourable mention to Shawn Chacon. 11-3 for the Rockies. NL RotY: Dontrelle Willis Easy pick. NL Manager: Frank Robinson For keeping the Montreal Expos in contention despite a horrendous schedule, lack of solid fan base, and complete apathy from Major League Baseball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted June 30, 2003 For me Loaiza is the biggest lock of anyone at this point. The Cy Young doesn't have to be on a winning team. It's the best pitcher. Loaiza has 11 wins, and an era of like 2.15. He's been the best pitcher in the American League this year. **coughHalladaycough** Loaiza gets comeback or most improved though. I hope that Delgado doesn't have a 2nd half letdown... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted June 30, 2003 **coughHalladaycough** Loaiza gets comeback or most improved though. I hope that Delgado doesn't have a 2nd half letdown... Loaiza's got the better numbers. Cy Young unlike MVP is supposed to be best pitcher. Team record has nothing to do with it. Halladay's had a good year win wise, but what about Mark Mulder, Mike Mussina, or Jamie Moyer. They have numbers maybe better than Halladay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted June 30, 2003 Cy Young unlike MVP is supposed to be best pitcher. Good lord lets not get into this stupidity again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest phoenixrising Report post Posted June 30, 2003 AL MVP: Carlos Delgado, Toronto NL MVP: Albert Pujols, St. Louis AL Rookie of the Year: Rocco Baldelli, Tampa Bay NL Rookie of the Year: Dontrelle Willis, Florida AL Cy Young: Roy Halladay, Toronto NL Cy Young: Kevin Brown, Los Angeles AL Most Improved: Esteban Loaiza, Chicago NL Most Improved: Mike Lowell, Florida AL Manager of the Year: Tony Pena, Kansas City NL Manager of the Year: Bob Brenly, Arizona All MLB Team: 1B - Carlos Delgado, Toronto 2B - Bret Boone, Seattle SS - Nomar Garciaparra, Boston 3B - Mike Lowell, Florida OF - Ichiro Suzuki, Seattle OF - Albert Pujols, St. Louis OF - Jim Edmonds, St. Louis C - Javy Lopez, Atlanta DH - Edgar Martinez, Seattle SP - Kevin Brown, Los Angeles CL - Eric Gagne, Los Angeles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted June 30, 2003 AL MVP - Carlos Delgado NL MVP - Albert Pujos AL CY Young - Roy Halladay NL CY Young - Kevin Brown AL ROY - Rocco Baldelli NL ROY - Dontrell Willis AL Improved - Esteban Loaiza NL Improved - Mike Lowell AL MOY - Carlos Tosca (Jays have a better record than the Royals in a tougher division, otherwise Pena gets it [plus, I'm biased]) NL MOY - Frank Robinson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted June 30, 2003 Cy Young unlike MVP is supposed to be best pitcher. Good lord lets not get into this stupidity again. What stupidity? That's how it works in Baseball. MVP is reserved for best player on a contending team. Cy Young is best pitcher in the league, reguardless of team record. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted June 30, 2003 Where?? Where in the annals of baseball does it say the MVP has to come from a contender? It doesn't. You can be valuable and play on a losing team. Its ridiculous to pick a winner based on who had the better teammates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted June 30, 2003 It's not written anywhere. But the fact remains writers are going to vote for a player on a contending team. Tejada last year was a prime example. A-Rod had the better numbers, but Tejada won the MVP rather easily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NoCalMike Report post Posted June 30, 2003 if Eric Byrnes of the A's was more known nationally, I think he could easily be a candidate for AL MVP at the midpoint. Following every A's game closely, it would be troublesome to wonder where the A's would be this year without his CONSTANT spark. Also his defensive play has been a pleasant suprise. He better be an All-Star this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted June 30, 2003 Eric "Mr." Byrnes is a lock for the All-Star game. You're right about Byrnes not getting enough consideration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted June 30, 2003 Byrnes is keeping my fantasy team afloat through Vlad's injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted June 30, 2003 . You can be valuable and play on a losing team. [.quote] You can't be that valuable if your contribution isn't enough to win games. A-rod last year was probably the biggest counter to that arguement, but his stats weren't game effecting stats, they were self worth stats. How high was that average with men on after the 7th? How many HR's did he hit when his team needed them? Mondesi is gonna be a contender for MVP come second half, his defense is top notch and he seems to finally be getting comfortable batting in that line up. If he does as good as he can the next 81 I see him just having monster numbers. Matsui's a lock for ROY unless he has the worst second season out of everyone in baseball. CY Young.....Hmmm....For some reason I'm gonna say Halladay. Manager of the year: Whoever manages the M's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted June 30, 2003 You can't be that valuable if your contribution isn't enough to win games. A-rod last year was probably the biggest counter to that arguement, but his stats weren't game effecting stats, they were self worth stats. How high was that average with men on after the 7th? How many HR's did he hit when his team needed them? 1. Alex's contribution was enough to win games. Just not enough to reach the postseason. 2. Self worth stats are ridiculous. A-Rod helped his team every time he reached base, simply by not contributing another out. That's why OBP is so important. 3. Clutch stats? Lets see. Alex batted .366 with runners in scoring position. .364 with the bases loaded. He scored 125 runs, and drove in 142. Last I checked, scoring and driving in runs helped your team. 4. The Rangers last year scored more runs than the Oakland A's (with Tejada) and the Seatlle Mariners. They finished fifth in runs scored. They lost 90 games because of their pitching. I don't know why I keep trying to argue this. I figured having the best year as a shortstop since Honus Wagner meant something. I guess I'm just old-fashioned. Mondesi is gonna be a contender for MVP come second half, his defense is top notch and he seems to finally be getting comfortable batting in that line up. If he does as good as he can the next 81 I see him just having monster numbers. Ah, Yankee love rears its ugly head. Raul Mondesi has never been an MVP candidate in his career, but thanks to a good first half, he's MVP material? His numbers are league average now. Giambi, Posada, Soriano, Matsui, Mussina, and Clemens are better candidates on your own TEAM. Matsui's a lock for ROY unless he has the worst second season out of everyone in baseball. CY Young.....Hmmm....For some reason I'm gonna say Halladay. If Matsui keeps up the streak, then yes. But at this point its not a sure thing by any means. Don't forget Rocco Baldelli in Tampa Bay. He's hitting .314 with 14 stolen bases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted June 30, 2003 a perfect example that you don't have to be on a winning team to win MVP, is when Joe Sakic of the Quebec Nordiques won the Hart Trophy. Quebec finished last in the NHL season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest undisputedjericho Report post Posted June 30, 2003 I was about to ask where the Byrnes love was... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted June 30, 2003 Texas has been plagued by bad pitching but it wasn't all shit. Good numbers yeah, but he's paid for great numbers, and if he's gonna be considered the most valuable at his price, his contribution better be enough to make his team a contender. Mondesi's an all arounder, if he has his best year he has a shot. Soriano's the only one you've named who's looking to take MVP so far, and I never said Mondesi's looking better, I said he's looking good, and with a monster second half that I can see happening he could very well take it. Call whatever you have to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MaxPower27 Report post Posted June 30, 2003 What else do you expect A-Rod to do?! throw a 98MPH heater, play catcher and gun down to himself at shortstop to get the runner? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest undisputedjericho Report post Posted June 30, 2003 AL MVP - Carlos Delgado NL MVP - Albert Pujols AL Cy Young - Estaban Loaiza NL Cy Young - John Smoltz AL RotY - Hideki Matsui NL RotY - Dontrell Willis AL MotY - Tony Pena NL MotY - Frank Robinson AL MIP - Estaban Loaiza NL MIP - Kevin Brown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted June 30, 2003 I didn't pick Most Improved before because its not an official award, but how can it not be Melvin Mora. I mean, where the hell did this guy come from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ghettoman Report post Posted June 30, 2003 What else do you expect A-Rod to do?! throw a 98MPH heater, play catcher and gun down to himself at shortstop to get the runner? For his money, he should be relieving himself in the fifth too. And yes, I do think Jeter is overpaid too, grossly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shawn 5 Report post Posted June 30, 2003 AL MVP: Carlos Delgado NL MVP: Gary Sheffield (barely over Pujols) AL Cy Young: Esteban Loaiza NL Cy Young: Kevin Brown AL RotY: Rocco Baldelli NL RotY: Dontrell Willis AL Most Improved: Melvin Mora (How can everyone forget about this guy?) NL Most Improved: Javy Lopez AL Manager: Tony Pena NL Manager: Bobby Cox All MLB Team: 1B: Carlos Delgado 2B: Bret Boone 3B: Mike Lowell SS: Nomar Garciapara C: Javy Lopez OF: Gary Sheffield OF: Albert Pujols OF: Barry Bonds DH: Edgar Martinez SP: Esteban Loaiza RP: John Smoltz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted June 30, 2003 a perfect example that you don't have to be on a winning team to win MVP, is when Joe Sakic of the Quebec Nordiques won the Hart Trophy. Quebec finished last in the NHL season. Players on bad teams have won the MVP. Andre Dawson in 1987. But that was 16 years ago. Voters approach the award differently know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
