TSM Comic Book Villain Tournament

[Guest WrestlingDeacon]

Voting will be open until Wednesday night at the least. If you haven't seen the results thread posted, keep voting. Clearly mark your selection for each match up. You may use any criteria in your voting, but mostly we are going with who are the better and more important characters to comics. And now the final two...

 

The Joker

 

Magneto

 

 

Joker defeated Two-Face15-2

Magneto defeated Lex Luthor 9-8

[Guest Flyboy]

Magneto, although he won't win.

[Guest Mattdotcom]

Here we are again, with the same franchises from two publishers facing off and Flyboy taking Marvel's side...

 

I vote Magneto, because the Joker is a little overexposed.

 

WHAT A SWERVE~

[Guest Big McLargeHuge]

Lex Luthor.

[Guest Mattdotcom]

SWERVED AGAIN~!

 

It's ironic that the finals of the villains trournament has turned....villainous.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Joker

[Guest kane3212321]

Joker

[Guest Steviekick]

Magneto maybe more powerful, but Mr. J is much more demented. Plus, he was even able to severely mess with the Spectre, who is infinitely greater than Magneto.

 

Joker with an acidic plastic flower explosive

[Guest Smell the ratings!!!]

Joker just owns period.

 

I would like to say that unlike the crappy hero tournament where I had to vote for bums like Thor and Silver Surfer, the villians tournament came down to the 4 best villians and I marked out.

[Patty O'Green 0]

Magneto

[Guest Kagato Otaku]

Joker.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

Motherfuckin' Joker.

[Guest DawnBTVS]

I love Harley...she hangs with Mistah J...so I'm going with The Joker

[Guest Nightscrawler]

Joker

[Guest the 1inch punch]

Magneto

[Guest The Amazing Rando]

Joker.

[Guest TheMadmanGreg]

All hail the Clown Prince of Crime!

[Zorin Industries 0]

Joker

[Guest JMA]

The Joker. Does anyone really expect him to lose? C'mon.

[Guest Will Scarlet]

Joker

[Guest starvenger]

Joker

 

I'd say Magneto is a better character but Joker is a villain through and through, and complements Batman better than Mags does Prof X so there you go.

[Guest Goodear]

Joker is such a freaking stupid charcter that I personally can't stand. "Oh my skin got bleached and now I'm insane! Watch me kill everyone BLAM BLAM BLAM." God, at least Mags has a valid reason for offing folks and being a Genocidal maniac. Joker just wanders around trying to be creepy as DC continues to bend reality to keep the little pecker alive. After the nineteenth time he escaped from Arkham, you'd think the people would be running him down like freaking Frankenstein with pitchforks... but no it's DC and its the land of THE ETERNAL TREADMILL.

[Guest David]

Magneto, but joker is going to win

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Joker is such a freaking stupid charcter that I personally can't stand. "Oh my skin got bleached and now I'm insane! Watch me kill everyone BLAM BLAM BLAM." God, at least Mags has a valid reason for offing folks and being a Genocidal maniac. Joker just wanders around trying to be creepy as DC continues to bend reality to keep the little pecker alive. After the nineteenth time he escaped from Arkham, you'd think the people would be running him down like freaking Frankenstein with pitchforks... but no it's DC and its the land of THE ETERNAL TREADMILL.

You are so freakin' ignorant, I can't even stand it. Why don't you read stuff like "The Killing Joke" or "The Devil's Advocate" or even "The Dark Knight Returns" so you can understand the real nature of the Batman/Joker relationship, instead of making an ass of yourself by posting out your ass.

 

Marvel is just as much a treadmill as DC is, BTW.

[Guest WrestlingDeacon]

Get your final votes in, I'm closing this bad boy up around 11 p.m. tonight!

[Guest Goodear]

Every Joker story ever...

 

1) Joker escapes from Arkham which never seems to get any better security despite the eternal breakouts. Can't they at least put the guy in five points restraint or anything?

2) Joker kills people including a henchman. Why does ANYONE work for the Joker? Honestly, explain this one to me.

3) Batman catches Joker and comes really close to killing him, but doesn't. Why this keeps fed up police officers from shooting him in the head I don't know. Hell, how this keeps anyone from killing the psycho, I don't know.

4) Joker's back in Arkham. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

 

The real nature of Batman vs Joker is essentially a battle of order vs chaos. Batman uses precision and calculation to fight the random forces that led to his parents' murder. Joker puts a face to the chaos. The problem is that the chaos is entirely predictable, Joker will shoot someone and hole up somewhere with a clown on it. That's what he always does.

 

I've never read "A Killing Joke" since I've never been a Joker fan. But when Joker cripples Batgirl and the story ends with Batman having a laugh with Mr. J... something is off.

 

"The Dark Knight Returns" is all about Batman's changes as he grows older, Joker is pretty much the same boring psycho he's always been.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Every Joker story ever...

 

1) Joker escapes from Arkham which never seems to get any better security despite the eternal breakouts. Can't they at least put the guy in five points restraint or anything?

2) Joker kills people including a henchman. Why does ANYONE work for the Joker? Honestly, explain this one to me.

3) Batman catches Joker and comes really close to killing him, but doesn't. Why this keeps fed up police officers from shooting him in the head I don't know. Hell, how this keeps anyone from killing the psycho, I don't know.

4) Joker's back in Arkham. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

 

The real nature of Batman vs Joker is essentially a battle of order vs chaos. Batman uses precision and calculation to fight the random forces that led to his parents' murder. Joker puts a face to the chaos. The problem is that the chaos is entirely predictable, Joker will shoot someone and hole up somewhere with a clown on it. That's what he always does.

 

I've never read "A Killing Joke" since I've never been a Joker fan. But when Joker cripples Batgirl and the story ends with Batman having a laugh with Mr. J... something is off.

 

"The Dark Knight Returns" is all about Batman's changes as he grows older, Joker is pretty much the same boring psycho he's always been.

There is a formula, but EVERY comic book has a formula, you dolt. Plus, there have been great stories without some of those elments. (Sometimes without all of them)

 

1. Joker's part in No Man's Land has NONE of the 3 elements

 

2. Killing Joke had an escape, but Batman never came close to killing, and Joker never killed a henchman just innocents.

 

3. Devil's Advocate has NONE of the three elements.

 

4. Arkham Asylum has NONE

 

5. Going Sane has NONE

 

Focusing on these three elements betrays your lack of comic knowledge. The Joker is a symbol of choas and madness, to Batman's symbol of order. In the Joker's mind the world is just a theater of the absurd, of which he is the king. The fact that you can't understand that Joker and Batman are psychological opposites, is pretty damn sad.

 

Read up, learn the subject, stop posting out your ass.

[Guest Goodear]

Focusing on these three elements betrays your lack of comic knowledge. The Joker is a symbol of choas and madness, to Batman's symbol of order. In the Joker's mind the world is just a theater of the absurd, of which he is the king. The fact that you can't understand that Joker and Batman are psychological opposites, is pretty damn sad.

 

THATS WHAT I SAID! SEEEEEE...

The real nature of Batman vs Joker is essentially a battle of order vs chaos. Batman uses precision and calculation to fight the random forces that led to his parents' murder.  Joker puts a face to the chaos.  The problem is that the chaos is entirely predictable, Joker will shoot someone and hole up somewhere with a clown on it.  That's what he always does.

 

I just don't like the dichotomy as much as you since Joker's chaos is too orderly and Batman's actually pretty chaotic when you think about it as well. The guy draws an imaginary line in the sand where he's quite happy playing policeman, but feels that the system should handle judgment and incarceration. That line has always seemed artificial to me.

 

And geeze, stop calling me an idiot for not reading stories about a character I don't like. Want me to start bashing you for not seeing Shakespeare in Love or something?

[Guest WrestlingDeacon]

Zsasz, read some Joker stories before 1985. Goodear read some Joker stories after 1985.

[Guest Danny Dubya v 2.0]

[n/m, ignore this. was going to vote M.]