T2 Ultimate Edition vs. eXtreme Edition

[Guest ShamRock]

I have been thinking about getting of those two, but I don't know which one. So I decided to come here and ask a couple of questions.

 

1. Do both editions come in widescreen?

 

2. Which DVD has the better extras?

 

3. Which has the better picture?

[Guest Choken One]

I can't answer the question but why does it matter if its WIDESCREEN or Full Screen?

 

Unless it's on my CPU...They never made a DAMN bit of difference in my enjoyment of the movie...

 

Although I like the WS for the CC postitioning...

[Guest CoreyLazarus416]

Because widescreen allows you to see more of the picture. Isn't something like 2/3 of the picture usually cut out for full-screen movies?

 

I think the only differences in the two are some minor fluff extras that are on the Extreme Edition.

 

Personally, I'd say get the Ultimate Edition. It comes in a cool metal case.

[Guest eiker_ir]

the UE is better for the extras, it has alot more than the new DVD and it includes 3 different cuts of the movie:

- Theatrical Vesion, Special Edition and Ultimate Edition.

 

The Transfer is a bit better on the Extreme Edition, but you cant note the difference unless you have a great high resolution TV.

 

I personally own the UE and have no intention to upgrade to the Extreme one. the UE is one of the best DVDs ever made imo.

[Guest Askewniverse]

I can't answer the question but why does it matter if its WIDESCREEN or Full Screen?

Widescreen movies allow you to see the whole picture, while full screen ("pan and scan") cuts off part of the picture to allow the image to fit onto a regular TV. More notably, widescreen allows you to see the movie the way that the director intended.

 

When movies are shown in theaters, they're projected on a rectangular screen. Normal TVs are square shaped. A rectangular shaped image will not fill up a square shaped TV. There are generally two ways to deal with it: (1) to use the rectangular-shaped image, and not fill up the entire TV screen. This is why there are "black bars" on widescreen movies. (2) cut off part of the picture, making the image a square, which would allow it to fill the entire TV screen.

 

Widescreen.org has great examples on the differences between a movie in widescreen and fullscreen.

 

To answer ShamRock's questions:

1. Yes

2. in my opinion, Ultimate Edition

3. Extreme Edition

[Guest Edwin MacPhisto]

You want the Ultimate Edition, unless you have an incredibly powerful computer that can run the super high-res print on the Extreme Edition. I've seen that demoed at an AV store, and it's mind-blowing, probably the sharpest, best quality video transfer I've seen of anything...but you need an EXTREMELY high-end computer at this point to get anything out of it.

 

Additionally, the Extreme Edition case is super-lame, what-with the big dorky Terminator on the front.

[Guest Choken One]

I guess...Never made a difference to me and It never hindered my movie watching expirence...

[Guest mesepher]

I guess...Never made a difference to me and It never hindered my movie watching expirence...

the thing I don't understand is why people make such a big fuss out of widescreen DVDs... its either widescreen or they don't buy it. Well, I'd like to look at the VHS collections of these kids, because chances are every single movie is FULL SCREEN. I suppose though when given the option you might want the widescreen in hopes of buying a widescreen tv some day. Personally, I prefer the disks with both formats on it... or if it is widescreen the ones with the small black lines... my JAWS DVD shows about 4 inches of the movie is THAT how Speilberg wanted me to see his movie?

[Guest Choken One]

Mabe it's me but I have a 54 inch Screen...I LIKE FULL SCREEN on that bitch...Wide screen pussies the movie there.

[Guest eiker_ir]

my JAWS DVD shows about 4 inches of the movie  is THAT how Speilberg wanted me to see his movie?

yes

 

 

cant you see the loss? its not about filling the whole screen, it's how the movie was actually shot.

 

when you watch Pan n Scan DVDs you lose a big part on the original picture, about 30-40%, specially on 2.35:1 movies, like Terminator 2 is.

 

some examples to show you how much is lost in the conversion to pan n scan:

 

The Mummy

 

LOTR

 

 

The Mummy

 

As you can see, not everybody is visible in the pan n scan version of the movie. By expanding the image to fill the screen, the sides of the image are cut off. On average, about 30% of the picture is cut off on the sides, especially on movies filmed in 2.35:1 format. Movies like Star Wars and Mad Max are filmed in 2.35:1 format.

 

the link Askewniverse posted has hundreds of pics like these.

[Guest Dmann2000]

the thing I don't understand is why people make such a big fuss out of widescreen DVDs... its either widescreen or they don't buy it. Well, I'd like to look at the VHS collections of these kids, because chances are every single movie is FULL SCREEN. I suppose though when given the option you might want the widescreen in hopes of buying a widescreen tv some day. Personally, I prefer the disks with both formats on it... or if it is widescreen the ones with the small black lines... my JAWS DVD shows about 4 inches of the movie is THAT how Speilberg wanted me to see his movie?

When a copy of a movie was available in widescreen on VHS, I picked up the Widescreen.

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

Back to T2 discussion.

 

I think the main reason why people might want to double dip on the Extreme Edition set is the commentary track. Most people don't have the hi-end setup to enjoy the Hi End transfer on their DVD or they don't have a DVD player in their computer.

 

I for one, would not buy a DVD just because of a commentary track. If theres a decent one on the movie, thats a bonus. I'd rather have the Ultimate Edition of T2 just because of the ton of bonus features thats on it that isn't on the Extreme Edition.

[Guest Dmann2000]

my JAWS DVD shows about 4 inches of the movie is THAT how Speilberg wanted me to see his movie?

That's cause it was shot in scope (2.35:1)

 

Trust me, the day you get a widescreen television, you're gonna want widescreen DVD's (anamorphic)

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

my JAWS DVD shows about 4 inches of the movie is THAT how Speilberg wanted me to see his movie?

That's cause it was shot in scope (2.35:1)

 

Trust me, the day you get a widescreen television, you're gonna want widescreen DVD's (anamorphic)

Widescreen TVs are quite expensive.

 

And the sorry thing is that most TV (outside of some Network Prime Time) isn't in WS format, so it looks stupid (IE, I've got this widescreen tv and only the middle of it has a picture..Im getting cheated again!)

[Guest Choken One]

Back to T2 discussion.

 

I think the main reason why people might want to double dip on the Extreme Edition set is the commentary track. Most people don't have the hi-end setup to enjoy the Hi End transfer on their DVD or they don't have a DVD player in their computer.

 

I for one, would not buy a DVD just because of a commentary track. If theres a decent one on the movie, thats a bonus. I'd rather have the Ultimate Edition of T2 just because of the ton of bonus features thats on it that isn't on the Extreme Edition.

I have NEVER brought or rented a DVD because of Commentary becsue they never subtitle or CC what the commentors are saying....

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Back to T2 discussion.

 

I think the main reason why people might want to double dip on the Extreme Edition set is the commentary track.  Most people don't have the hi-end setup to enjoy the Hi End transfer on their DVD or they don't have a DVD player in their computer.

 

I for one, would not buy a DVD just because of a commentary track.  If theres a decent one on the movie, thats a bonus.  I'd rather have the Ultimate Edition of T2 just because of the ton of bonus features thats on it that isn't on the Extreme Edition.

I have NEVER brought or rented a DVD because of Commentary becsue they never subtitle or CC what the commentors are saying....

Occasionally they are, like with the first Die Hard, but they are rare.

 

As for Widescreen, I refuse to buy DVDs in Full Screen. With VHS it was a little different because WS wasn't available for every film. With DVDs you can just go to some place like Future Shop and pick up the copy you want. Even Blockbuster is going to WS. Wal-Mart is still behind the times, but I imagine they will come around too.

 

Not only do you lose half the picture, but you end up with these weird pans that completely destroy the film as the director intended. For something like Citizen Kane that was shot in FS, then FS is what I would want. I want to see the film that the director shot, not one hacked to death by the distributor.