Only The Strong Survive 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2003 1. When did Razor Ramon first enter the WWF? 2. How did he go from main eventing and getting WWF Title shots at Royal Rumble 1993 against no less than Bret Hart to being demoted to mid-card and fighting for the Intercontinental Title in 1994 and 1995? 3. What/ when was his last WWF match before jumping to WCW? Thanks for any help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted July 12, 2003 1. Summer 92 2. Well after his big feud v. Bret, they sent him back down to the midcard where he eventually became a face. He was always over but not main event over (if you know what I mean) so he was just fine in the midcard-upper midcard. 3. His last match was at MSG against Triple H. That was the infamous Kliq show Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Only The Strong Survive 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2003 He was always over but not main event over (if you know what I mean) so he was just fine in the midcard-upper midcard. Yeah, that's why I asked, because he never seemed cut out to be main event material from what I saw of him during those IC matches, so I get your point. So Razor was a heel back then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Razor was a heel from his debut until the summer of 1993. After he lost to the Kid- Money Inc. started mocking him about it and one day he came to the aid of the 1-2-3 Kid and officially turned face Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yankovic fan 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2003 That was gold when he turned face when Kid got the pin on IRS I think it was. And didn't at some point during that time frame P.J. Walker get a pin on one of them too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted July 12, 2003 It wasn't as obvious later on, but Razor Ramon was initially based on Scarface. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Ramon was brought in as Flair's Protege of sorts but when Flair left they dropped any asstociation he had with Heenan... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted July 12, 2003 That was gold when he turned face when Kid got the pin on IRS I think it was. And didn't at some point during that time frame P.J. Walker get a pin on one of them too? PJ Walker pinned IRS after Razor came down and distracted IRS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted July 12, 2003 Hall: "Say 'hello' to my little friend! And by that, I mean my toothpick." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zack Malibu Report post Posted July 12, 2003 According to rumor (Meltz?), Hall was originally coming in as a GI Joe style army character, before they opted for the Scarface based Ramon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C-Bacon Report post Posted July 13, 2003 According to rumor (Meltz?), Hall was originally coming in as a GI Joe style army character, before they opted for the Scarface based Ramon. I remember Bischoff saying something about that on OTR a few years back Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Random Hero Report post Posted July 13, 2003 I watched the December '95 IYH last night. Razor's music was AWESOME... and also it was nice to see HHH rolling round in a hog pen covered in pig shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
