The Great GameFAQs Character Battle

[Guest JaKyL25]

Snake vs Raiden? WTF is ANY MK guy in this tourney? They like NEVER get enough votes for a win and usually end up on losing side (unless paired against someone like Nooks or something).

Although it's been pointed out already that you suffered from Raiden Mix-Up~! here, I would also like to point out that Scorpion, from Mortal Kombat, made it to the final 8 last year before being mowed down by Link.

 

Granted, his competition was shabby, but still, the Elite 8 is nothing to sneeze at.

 

This year he was destroyed by Zero, however, so it may have been a fluke.

 

Oh, and I also don't consider Kefka over Pac-Man a travesty. I never understood the appeal of Pac-Man. My first game ever was Pole Position for Atari 2600 (7800?), so I'm by no means a newbie either. IMO, Kefka is by far the best Final Fantasy character in the tournament (though I have yet to play X), and deserved to win by much more. Whether he deserves to beat Crono, however, is debateable.

 

I can't be upset over our difference of opinion, though, because you're named after Flik! Suikoden 2 > practically anything.

 

Oh, while I'm at it, mad props to the guy with Ghaleon in his avatar.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

In my opinion Sephiroth was a better villain than Kefka. Kefka was pretty one-dimensional and I thought Sephiroth was developed well.

Wha? Seph was the king of speaking a couple lines and then leaving a boss monster (usually the same damn one with different abilities too.)

 

 

Also, Seph wanted to become a god, but Kefka actually became one.

[Guest Lightning Flik]

Sephy was all about being badass, but Kefka was a murdering, heartless muthafucker. Hence Kefka owns Sephy.

 

I can't be upset over our difference of opinion, though, because you're named after Flik!  Suikoden 2 > practically anything.

Holy shit~! Someone actually fucking knows where I got this namesake from~!

 

Damn, you like deserve something for knowing that. Have a headbang.

 

And yes, even I say Suikoden 2 is probably the most underlooked RPG out there. Probably also the most well built one overall all.

 

Not only that, but DAMMIT~! Flik was a great character. Funny, courageous, and his madd skillz with the zword were AWEZOME~! Plus, I always felt he shoulda been a leader. He's just too good.

 

...well, Clive (sp?) is the best overall. I didn't use Clive as my moniker because I'm just not good enough to claim that title. Shit, why wasn't Clive included into this tourney? He's got enough of a cult following that he'd probably at least get through round one. Seriously.

[Guest AndrewTS]

"And yes, even I say Suikoden 2 is probably the most underlooked RPG out there. Probably also the most well built one overall all."

 

It's not so much overlooked as impossible to find.

 

Well, you can pay out the ass and get it on Ebay, but it's not available at a reasonable price.

[Guest Lightning Flik]

It's not so much overlooked as impossible to find.

 

Well, you can pay out the ass and get it on Ebay, but it's not available at a reasonable price.

There is that I guess.

 

Alucard 64.33%

Bomberman 35.67%

[Guest JaKyL25]

"And yes, even I say Suikoden 2 is probably the most underlooked RPG out there. Probably also the most well built one overall all."

 

It's not so much overlooked as impossible to find.

 

Well, you can pay out the ass and get it on Ebay, but it's not available at a reasonable price.

I made sure to get my copy when it came out, since Suikoden 1 was so freakin' cool. And, miracles of miracles, 2 managed to be almost twice as good! 3's pretty sweet too, but it's no 2.

 

Suikoden 2 is my third favorite game, after Final Fantasy VI and Xenogears, and it's definitely a more well-built game than Xenogears. I consider FFVI to be the most complete game out there, but Suikoden 2 gives it a run for its money. And I'm still torn between Xenogears and Suikoden 2 when it comes to what game has the best plot ever. Xeno's is so complex and compelling, but it's also needlessly complex. Suikoden 2 is practically airtight, and has many more memorable characters and moments. Now that I think about it, I'm giving the edge to Suiko 2.

 

Clive has THAT much of a following? His backstory is quite good, but I don't like how you basically have to play a speed-session of Suiko 2 JUST to accomplish his side-quest.

 

My favorite character in the game is Jowy. In many ways, I agree with his ideals moreso than Jowston's. He's VERY well developed, and so much more than a classic evil RPG heel turn.

 

Well, gotta go watch Raw. Be on later.

[Guest Lightning Flik]

Clive has THAT much of a following? His backstory is quite good, but I don't like how you basically have to play a speed-session of Suiko 2 JUST to accomplish his side-quest.

Yah, Clive has a hell of a following. It's really scary.

[Guest JaKyL25]

Bah. Give me Jowy, Shu, Flik, or Luc anyday over Clive. Maybe Viktor too. There's something about Viktor that I just can't completely warm to, though I can't put my finger on it.

 

Pesmerga/Yuber is my preferred "mysterious backstory" over Clive and the Guild anyway.

 

Have you played Suiko 3, Flik? If so, what'd you think?

 

Back on topic:

 

Uhh, yeah, go Alucard, I guess.

 

Tomorrow's match-up:

 

I picked Kirby, but I could end up taking that point up the ass.

[Guest Lightning Flik]

Bah. Give me Jowy, Shu, Flik, or Luc anyday over Clive. Maybe Viktor too. There's something about Viktor that I just can't completely warm to, though I can't put my finger on it.

 

Pesmerga/Yuber is my preferred "mysterious backstory" over Clive and the Guild anyway.

 

Have you played Suiko 3, Flik? If so, what'd you think?

 

Back on topic:

 

Uhh, yeah, go Alucard, I guess.

 

Tomorrow's match-up:

 

I picked Kirby, but I could end up taking that point up the ass.

Technically, I only like Clive because of the WHOLE story that involves him, not just him.

 

Flik is just the guy who SHOULDA been the main character but gets relegated to "better secondary character than main". And I'm talking heroes, which nixs out Jowy.

 

Pesmerga and Yuber needs to be fucking solved. Although, I read a really good theory out there on cyber space that points to Pesmerga and Yuber being the living embodiments of the True Runes that broke into parts (like the Sword and Shield specifically, I think). Sorry if that's vague, it's been a long time since I read that.

 

Suikoden 3 was good. Problem is the True Fire Rune takes WAY TOO fucking long to pick up, and the guy who the whole game centers around on (I think) doesn't show up till the last chapter... God, I need to play Suikoden again it seems. My lore of it sucks.

 

That said, Suikoden 3 wasn't bad, but had quite a few glaring flaws.

 

I think Kirby will win, but only because he's got a TV show and Ramza doesn't. That and Kirby's more kick ass then Ramza. As Kirby assimilates things by eating them. How the hell can Ramza even compare?

 

...thus, since logic is thwarted in this tourney, Ramza will win.

[Guest EricMM]

Ramza owns Kirby. Seriously, what good game has Kirby starred in? Something on the level of FFT???

[Guest JaKyL25]

Ramza owns Kirby.  Seriously, what good game has Kirby starred in?  Something on the level of FFT???

I wouldn't go so far as to say he "starred" in this, but I will say that if you're going by game quality, I prefer Super Smash Bros. Melee to FFT. Slightly.

 

But anyway, it's the character, not their games. For example, I wouldn't vote for Mog over Mega Man or anything, even though FFVI > Any Mega Man game.

 

If you don't care about the Suikoden you can skip to the next post right about...NOW.

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I've heard that Pesmerga/Yuber story too. I'm guessing you've been to suikosource.com as well? The definitive Pesmerga/Yuber FAQ is there.

 

Here's the first quote from that FAQ though:

Murayama himself stated that Pesmerga and Yuber have a major effect on the Suikoden World. Their duel can only end in the final Suikoden.

If that's the case, then NO, I DON'T want their history to be revealed anytime soon!

 

Sucks to hear that Blue Moon has moved on to other interests. The man was THE source for Suiko info.

 

As for Suikoden 3:

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The game centers around Luc. He's there the whole time, but it's not revealed who he is behind the mask until the end of Chapter 4 (though ANY Suiko veteran would have picked him out long before this, at the very least when he starts using the True Wind Rune). I TOTALLY marked out when it was revealed that the blonde guy with Luc and his gang was a more-snappily-dressed-than-usual Yuber, though.   What I don't like so much about the game is that, while any of the three can be the Flame Champion, it's obviously set up for Hugo to take the title in the logical progression of the story. And Hugo is nothing compared to either main hero from the previous games. IMO, Tir McDohl from #1 owns both of his successors.

[Guest Lightning Flik]

Here's the first quote from that FAQ though:

Murayama himself stated that Pesmerga and Yuber have a major effect on the Suikoden World. Their duel can only end in the final Suikoden.

If that's the case, then NO, I DON'T want their history to be revealed anytime soon!

 

Sucks to hear that Blue Moon has moved on to other interests. The man was THE source for Suiko info.

 

As for Suikoden 3:

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

The game centers around Luc. He's there the whole time, but it's not revealed who he is behind the mask until the end of Chapter 4 (though ANY Suiko veteran would have picked him out long before this, at the very least when he starts using the True Wind Rune). I TOTALLY marked out when it was revealed that the blonde guy with Luc and his gang was a more-snappily-dressed-than-usual Yuber, though.   What I don't like so much about the game is that, while any of the three can be the Flame Champion, it's obviously set up for Hugo to take the title in the logical progression of the story. And Hugo is nothing compared to either main hero from the previous games. IMO, Tir McDohl from #1 owns both of his successors.

Just curious on your opinion, but even I say Tir was the best. That guy lives the worst life ever of anyone, like he was supposed to rule his land but vacated for good reason as he is NEVER supposed to age because of the True Soul Eater Rune and what it does.

 

What's funny is that if you get him in the second game, he actually gets healed by the curse of the Soul Eater (I think you go mad from it or something, damn I need to play Suiko again) by his successor, the True Shield Rune.

 

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

And yes, Hugo makes sense as the new Flame Champion. Yet, I just find it stupid that it takes THAT long to get that crowned as by then the True Flame Rune becomes quite pointless (as it's not able to be fully used).   I meant us learn more about Yuber and Pesgerma, not have them have the final duel. That would be cool. Although, THEY having their final duel means the end of the Suiko saga, yet, doesn't that mean Yuber/Pesgerma will become the hero/bad guy of the final Suikoden? Damn, so much to know...   Ok, so it centers around Luc. I just meant finding the Flame Rune and crowning the new Flame Champion. Ya know, that stuff.

[Guest JaKyL25]

Here's the first quote from that FAQ though:

Murayama himself stated that Pesmerga and Yuber have a major effect on the Suikoden World. Their duel can only end in the final Suikoden.

If that's the case, then NO, I DON'T want their history to be revealed anytime soon!

 

Sucks to hear that Blue Moon has moved on to other interests. The man was THE source for Suiko info.

 

As for Suikoden 3:

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

The game centers around Luc. He's there the whole time, but it's not revealed who he is behind the mask until the end of Chapter 4 (though ANY Suiko veteran would have picked him out long before this, at the very least when he starts using the True Wind Rune). I TOTALLY marked out when it was revealed that the blonde guy with Luc and his gang was a more-snappily-dressed-than-usual Yuber, though.   What I don't like so much about the game is that, while any of the three can be the Flame Champion, it's obviously set up for Hugo to take the title in the logical progression of the story. And Hugo is nothing compared to either main hero from the previous games. IMO, Tir McDohl from #1 owns both of his successors.

Just curious on your opinion, but even I say Tir was the best. That guy lives the worst life ever of anyone, like he was supposed to rule his land but vacated for good reason as he is NEVER supposed to age because of the True Soul Eater Rune and what it does.

 

What's funny is that if you get him in the second game, he actually gets healed by the curse of the Soul Eater (I think you go mad from it or something, damn I need to play Suiko again) by his successor, the True Shield Rune.

 

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

And yes, Hugo makes sense as the new Flame Champion. Yet, I just find it stupid that it takes THAT long to get that crowned as by then the True Flame Rune becomes quite pointless (as it's not able to be fully used).   I meant us learn more about Yuber and Pesgerma, not have them have the final duel. That would be cool. Although, THEY having their final duel means the end of the Suiko saga, yet, doesn't that mean Yuber/Pesgerma will become the hero/bad guy of the final Suikoden? Damn, so much to know...   Ok, so it centers around Luc. I just meant finding the Flame Rune and crowning the new Flame Champion. Ya know, that stuff.

On-topic: Yes! Kirby is winning! Hooray

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Suikoden:

Just curious on your opinion, but even I say Tir was the best. That guy lives the worst life ever of anyone, like he was supposed to rule his land but vacated for good reason as he is NEVER supposed to age because of the True Soul Eater Rune and what it does.

 

What's funny is that if you get him in the second game, he actually gets healed by the curse of the Soul Eater (I think you go mad from it or something, damn I need to play Suiko again) by his successor, the True Shield Rune.

 

Yes, Tir is by far the best. Quite the tragic character, to be forced to live alone, separate from anyone you love because of the power of that cursed Rune. Poor kid. The fact that Gremio stays by his side despite this is a powerful statement about the strength of their friendship.

 

And I recall no "healing of the Soul Eater's curse" in Suiko 2. I think you might be dreaming or something. Tir and Riou just team up to save a lost kid from a big monster, as far as I recall, and then after that you can go recruit Tir into your party at Gregminster if you so choose. Which I always do.

 

What's really sad is to see the respective endings for Tir and Riou and how they turned out. Going by "The Best Ending = The Ending that Actually Happened", Riou is a LUCKY sunofabitch.

Spoiler (Highlight to Read):

He gets to walk off into the sunset with his best friends, and he doesn't even have the curse of Immortality due to the Split nature of his and Jowy's Rune. It almost makes me upset when I compare that to Tir's eternal isolation (well, not eternal, really. The Rune will choose a new master eventually).

[Guest Lightning Flik]

GO KIRBY GO~!

 

Kirby 58.39%

Ramza 41.61%

[Guest fazzle]

Blah, thanks a lot Kirby. Now I have 4 wrong, bastard.

[Guest EricMM]

You fanboys can all go to hell

[Guest Lightning Flik]

You fanboys can all go to hell

Actually, I'm cheering Kirby on. There's a big difference.

[Guest AndrewTS]

WHOO! Kirby won.

[Guest Lightning Flik]

Live To The Minute Update On The Current Poll In Progress

 

It appears that in this latest contest we have Gordon Freeman from Half-Life (and its sequel) facing off against Max Payne. Both men come from some great shooter games and are now facing up against each other in an all out battle of who's got the bigger fanbase.

 

And currently at this time the poll is as such:

 

Gordon Freeman 45.72% 24625

Max Payne 54.28% 29236

TOTAL VOTES 53861

 

It certainly seems a close battle as there is less than 5000 votes deciding this battle. It will be a close one down until the wire.

[Guest JaKyL25]

SUPER HAPPY FUNTIME LONG-OVERDUE UPDATE

 

Payne defeats Freeman, even though (apparantly) Half-Life is a better game. Eh, I blame name brand recognition. I got it right, and that's all that matters.

 

Sephiroth defeats Raziel in the match with the second-highest total votes so far (behind Zero vs. Scorpion of all things). In other news, Scott Keith is fat and ugly.

 

Solid Snake defeats Raiden. Merely an amusing diversion. The REAL litmus test for Snake comes next round.

 

Here is a preview of the rest of the first round of the West Division:

 

#8 Knuckles the Echidna vs. #9 Yuna

 

Knuckles will go down, but he'll get about 30%.

 

#5 Ryu vs. #12 Duke Nukem

 

Would it be trite and fanboyish to just say "HADOKEN!!"?

 

#4 Dante vs. #13 Ryo Hazuki (from the Shenmue series)

 

I TRIED to like Shenmue. But there's only so many times one can ask "Excuse me, but did you see a black car go by here last night?" before going insane. Dante to win based on coolness alone.

 

#6 Donkey Kong vs. #11 Vyse (from Skies of Arcadia)

 

The "Never Underestimate RPGs at GameFAQs" rule could get Vyse some votes, but he's not going to topple Donkey F'n Kong.

 

#3 Tommy Vercetti vs. #14 Kite (from the .hack series)

 

See the above match-up, but with even less of a chance for the RPG character. GTA:VC was the #1 game at GameFAQs for a long-ass time, people. Vercetti in a walk, though his overall chances remain unknown. IMO he is the Wild Card of this tournament.

 

#7 Lara Croft vs. #10 Zelda

 

Lara has a new movie AND a new game out. But people know the name Zelda, and they LOVE the name Zelda. Zelda wins.

 

#2 Mega Man vs. #15 Mr. Resetti (from Animal Crossing)

 

Hope you saved before you die, Resetti. Mega Man is my sentimental pick to win the whole contest, though I doubt he will. He stands a VERY good chance at winning this division, though, provided that Vercetti isn't TOO strong, Yuna/Zelda aren't overachievers by virtue of association with more popular people, and Snake hasn't recieved an upswing in popularity (though DAMN does MGS 3 look awesome).

 

Any thoughts? Come back soon, Flik!

[Guest JaKyL25]

Well I'll be a farmer's doormat, Knuckles is actually WINNING. Combine this with Shadow's victory, and I'll admit that I completely underestimated the Sonic cast.

 

Zero vs. Sonic is quickly becoming my most anticipated Round 2 match.