Guest Report post Posted March 30, 2002 What a piece of shit! They hype his return like Christ is coming back, then he returns and bogs everything down. Does he f*cking realize that he is NOT OVER AS A FACE... He was great as a heel, and that is what the fans love to see... It is pretty sad when the Intercontinental Champion gets bigger pops than the WWF Champion. Why have the bookers not moved him into a heel role... OH WAIT, BECAUSE HE IS GODDAM HHH AND HE WANTS TO BE A FACE! So what, he should do what is right for the company... I am not to keen on the NWO, but it would seem logical for HHH to lead them and become heel OR continue sucking as a face until Benoit returns so he can carry HHH's sorry ass thru a great fued... What I would really like to see is the end of Hall/Nash, and then create a truly badass stable of heels... HHH, Benoit, Storm or Rhyno, and Lesnar... It will never happen, but it is the WWF and I now expect to be constantly disappointed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted March 30, 2002 Hey there big urn. Why don't you try to put some of that aggression towards Vincent K McMahon. He is the one who allows HHH to continue to be the "not over" undisputed champion. Jeez, it's like you guys don't think Vince doesn't have veto power over HHH, Steph, or the tv writers. When tv was good, we gave praise to Vince for the changes made. Now when it stinks, lets blame it on people we dont like. Pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 30, 2002 The HHHaters endorse this post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AM The Kid Report post Posted March 30, 2002 You contradicted yourself Big Urn..you go from hating him to putting him in a stable full of other very talented wrestlers(which would end up holding them down). Confusing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 30, 2002 He said he is an awful face but a good heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Man in Blak Report post Posted March 30, 2002 Well, it's not like he's preaching to the choir here. *cough* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 30, 2002 "So what, he should do what is right for the company... " Tell me how you felt about the Austin situation big boy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RetroRob215 Report post Posted March 30, 2002 Big Ern is right in the sense that HHH can't put on a very good match anymore. But I'm sure he could still be a GREAT heel if given the oppurtunity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 30, 2002 "So what, he should do what is right for the company... " Tell me how you felt about the Austin situation big boy. Austin DID do what is right for the Company. Doing this shows Vince what HHH and Friends are doing and how it's affecting the locker room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted March 30, 2002 My take is that Austin has a right to be upset...but not to change storylines, refuse to job, and then take off. That has been my standpoint from the beginning. Does that make me free to make anti-HHH sentiments? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RetroRob215 Report post Posted March 31, 2002 Austin is simply being an asshole because he is losing his place in the company. He is no longer the #1 draw. He is actually #3, behind Rock and Hogan. Thats the lowest he has been on the list since 1996. Austin has to do what Bret didn't do. He has to go with the flow and accept that the WWF and it's fanbase has changed. If he doesn't he will just get lost in the shuffle and end up hurting himself more than anyone else because the WWF can/will go on without him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest muzanisa Report post Posted March 31, 2002 I can't see Austin in the midcard. I don't agree with what he's done (missing house shows when you've been booked and advertised for them and are fit to work is a big no no for me) but if he's unhappy then he'd be better to get out with some good grace and not end up on the wrestling shows ranting about what a bastard Vince is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyB Report post Posted March 31, 2002 Doesn't anyone understand that the only reason Tripple H was good in the first place is because he used to bump around like Crazy in his matches, now he can't/won't bump around like used to so his matches suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted March 31, 2002 "Big Ern is right in the sense that HHH can't put on a very good match anymore. But I'm sure he could still be a GREAT heel if given the oppurtunity." I agree with the heel part. He would be great. The part I don't understand is why people seem to think that HHH won't EVER be able to put on a good match anymore. Yeah, it seems to be taking the man a little longer to do it, but just because of the current run doesn't mean he can't ever be good in the ring again. Sorry to beat a dead cat, but Austin's matches when he returned weren't very stellar for the first several months as well. He really didn't start having good matches til the 2 out of 3 at No Way Out. All his work before that was either average, below average, or just flat out awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Austin3164life Report post Posted March 31, 2002 Austin is doing what is right for the company because he's trying to say to Vince that Hogan and the clique are a bunch of backstage ingrates that want all the spotlight. Austin hasn't lost his popularity, he was just put in the mid-card in a lame-o feud with Scott Hall, and Rock was blasted into the take-up-45-minutes-of-Raw feud with Hogan. Now Rock is becoming the Blue Chipper Dork that he was, and Hogan is just getting older. Austin is the most valuable man because he can be over very easily as a heel or face, but Vince doesn't care because of Triple H and his backstage politicking....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the BURNHAM Report post Posted March 31, 2002 Austin is doing what is right for the company because he's trying to say to Vince that Hogan and the clique are a bunch of backstage ingrates that want all the spotlight. Austin hasn't lost his popularity, he was just put in the mid-card in a lame-o feud with Scott Hall, and Rock was blasted into the take-up-45-minutes-of-Raw feud with Hogan. Now Rock is becoming the Blue Chipper Dork that he was, and Hogan is just getting older. Austin is the most valuable man because he can be over very easily as a heel or face, but Vince doesn't care because of Triple H and his backstage politicking....... HOw do you konw that it's HHH's politicing that is causing the Rock to be teamed with Hogan and for Hall to fued with Austin. Personally, I love scott hall; and i still think he has good mathces in him and for austin to refuse to work with him in my mind is bullshit...if anyone he hsa heat with hogan, so if he chooses not to work with him, fine, but what's his problem with Hall. On SD, the rock and kane seemed to be having a good time with their roles, how do we know they are not pleased to be there. Imagine if part of the ceiling fell down during raw, HHH would be blamed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 31, 2002 "Does that make me free to make anti-HHH sentiments? " Everyone is entitled to them. I do not mind them if they are well thought out (even if I do not agree with them) and consistant. I am not big on any stupid posts regardless of who they are about, and hypocrisy is one of my pet peeves. Saying that Triple H is a cancer backstage (paraphrasing here) without any evidence that he is actually doing anything but pardoning Austin who refused to do his job and walked out causing a major storyline to be altered is a bit hypocritical and reeks of markdom. Austin was trying to send a message to Vince about the locker room? I am all for that. There are more appropriate ways of going about it though. Austin was not trying to send a message. He was sulking. RVD should walk out to send Vince a message about pushing him down and drowning out his pops. Jericho should walk out for being held down and being held responsible for the lackluster Wresltemania main event (even though we all know whose fault that really was). Angle should walk out for being treated like a mid-carder (threw you one Anglesault) The Rock should walk out for being made to play second fiddle to Hogan. What an interesting show we would have to watch if everybody did the right thing and walked out to try to send a message to Vince. Of course, then Triple H and the N.W.O. would have to walk out because they would not have anyone left to hold down. End sarcastic diatribe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blackjack4x Report post Posted April 1, 2002 I agree with the heel part. He would be great. The part I don't understand is why people seem to think that HHH won't EVER be able to put on a good match anymore. Yeah, it seems to be taking the man a little longer to do it, but just because of the current run doesn't mean he can't ever be good in the ring again. Sorry to beat a dead cat, but Austin's matches when he returned weren't very stellar for the first several months as well. He really didn't start having good matches til the 2 out of 3 at No Way Out. All his work before that was either average, below average, or just flat out awful. Of course, they didn't put the title on Austin until WrestleMania, when he was in top form. They let HHH win the Rumble two weeks after returning and win the Undisputed Title in the main event of WrestleMania two months after returning, and the guy still has ring rust and a lot of extra weight that restricts his mobility. The situations are entirely different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Raven_Effect01 Report post Posted April 1, 2002 and the guy still has ring rust and a lot of extra weight that restricts his mobility. I would have thought that by now HHH would have gotten rid of the ring rust. And this "extra weight" is from more steroid use, which seems to be the real cause of why his matches aren't what they used to be because he's slower in the ring and currently his wrestling skills are a combination of Lex Luger's and The Big Show's(moving slow and using power moves). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blackjack4x Report post Posted April 1, 2002 And this "extra weight" is from more steroid use, which seems to be the real cause of why his matches aren't what they used to be because he's slower in the ring and currently his wrestling skills are a combination of Lex Luger's and The Big Show's(moving slow and using power moves). True. That's what I meant by "extra weight". HHH is so big right now in a muscular sense that opponents noticably have to slow down so that he can keep up with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
