Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted July 21, 2003 "Just because she's fucked in the head doesn't make it okay to rape her." //stupid internet smark If he raped her, but with this new evidence I am more sure now then ever that she wants some money and gave it willingly to Kobe. Typical money hungary woman. And if this chick did try to kill herself then it's quite possible for her to be nuts enough to tear herself, just for effect. That was sarcasm, Johnson. I don't think he raped her. I just like to pick on people like PolishRifle who think that Kobe did rape her even though this PSYCHO BITCH is looking more and more like the slutty, moronic, money-grubbing opportunist the more they pry into her personal life. Funny this is, it hasn't even taken much prying to uncover her mental instability. Imagine when they REALLY start uncovering her ways. I'm sure some REAL interesting dirt on her is coming pretty soon. No one is saying that anything (past mental problems, prostitute, exhibitionism, way of dress, etc.) about this girl makes it OKAY to rape her. I'm tired of hearing that argument when that's not even what people are attempting to say. The point is, all these things more than likely mean that he DIDN'T have to rape her and it's just this girl crying wolf. Is she a liar with problems of her own. My magic 8Ball says "All Signs Point To Yes." Right now you have a kid who's been squeaky clean his entire career and now we find out OMG~! he's less than perfect. Well, whoopty do. How many of you out there don't make mistakes? On the other hand we have a cheerleader who, as Johnson1620 has said, baggage has baggage. Who are you going to believe? People out to crucify Kobe for "alleged" rape and adultery make me wanna Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 21, 2003 "Just because she's fucked in the head doesn't make it okay to rape her." //stupid internet smark If he raped her, but with this new evidence I am more sure now then ever that she wants some money and gave it willingly to Kobe. Typical money hungary woman. And if this chick did try to kill herself then it's quite possible for her to be nuts enough to tear herself, just for effect. That was sarcasm, Johnson. I don't think he raped her. I just like to pick on people like PolishRifle who think that Kobe did rape her even though this PSYCHO BITCH is looking more and more like the slutty, moronic, money-grubbing opportunist the more they pry into her personal life. Funny this is, it hasn't even taken much prying to uncover her mental instability. Imagine when they REALLY start uncovering her ways. I'm sure some REAL interesting dirt on her is coming pretty soon. No one is saying that anything (past mental problems, prostitute, exhibitionism, way of dress, etc.) about this girl makes it OKAY to rape her. I'm tired of hearing that argument when that's not even what people are attempting to say. The point is, all these things more than likely mean that he DIDN'T have to rape her and it's just this girl crying wolf. Is she a liar with problems of her own. My magic 8Ball says "All Signs Point To Yes." Right now you have a kid who's been squeaky clean his entire career and now we find out OMG~! he's less than perfect. Well, whoopty do. How many of you out there don't make mistakes? On the other hand we have a cheerleader who, as Johnson1620 has said, baggage has baggage. Who are you going to believe? People out to crucify Kobe for "alleged" rape and adultery make me wanna I don’t know why my name was brought out on this post but I will once again reiterate my thoughts. I don’t think Kobe raped her because I hate the Lakers. I’m not even saying that he raped her. All I’m saying is that the man lied about not EVER cheating on his wife. He scoffed at an LA Times reporter who even insinuated that he would ever be tempted to do so. His credibility is not exactly pristine. The man keeps to himself after ball games and refuses to let the public pry into his life out side of basketball. So the question is, WHO IS THE REAL KOBE “ALLEGED RAPIST” BRYANT? No one knows because he has never opened up to the public. He likes under-aged teens and girls that look like they are under-aged, that we know for sure. What makes him so credible? Just because he can play hoops? Who’s the one that’s blind here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 21, 2003 And how in the fucking hell is her taking alot of over the counter sleeping pills make her a drug addict. And if she was upset over getting cheated on, doesn't that make it seem that she thinks cheating is a horrible thing that she wouldn't want to be a part of.. Fucking American public... It does give a lot of proof that she is a PSYCHO BITCH though. That's what CJ has been saying from the start. Fear the psycho bitch She's a psycho now? Does that make Kobe a pathalogical liar seeing as he went from not doing anything to only being guilty of adultry and his numerous protestations of fidelity in the past? They both crazy as HELL!!!! She tried to kill herself over a cheating boyfriend. That indicates some emotional instability, don't ya think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted July 21, 2003 I know it was sarcasm; I was just being devil's advocate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 21, 2003 "Just because she's fucked in the head doesn't make it okay to rape her." //stupid internet smark If he raped her, but with this new evidence I am more sure now then ever that she wants some money and gave it willingly to Kobe. Typical money hungary woman. And if this chick did try to kill herself then it's quite possible for her to be nuts enough to tear herself, just for effect. That was sarcasm, Johnson. I don't think he raped her. I just like to pick on people like PolishRifle who think that Kobe did rape her even though this PSYCHO BITCH is looking more and more like the slutty, moronic, money-grubbing opportunist the more they pry into her personal life. Funny this is, it hasn't even taken much prying to uncover her mental instability. Imagine when they REALLY start uncovering her ways. I'm sure some REAL interesting dirt on her is coming pretty soon. No one is saying that anything (past mental problems, prostitute, exhibitionism, way of dress, etc.) about this girl makes it OKAY to rape her. I'm tired of hearing that argument when that's not even what people are attempting to say. The point is, all these things more than likely mean that he DIDN'T have to rape her and it's just this girl crying wolf. Is she a liar with problems of her own. My magic 8Ball says "All Signs Point To Yes." Right now you have a kid who's been squeaky clean his entire career and now we find out OMG~! he's less than perfect. Well, whoopty do. How many of you out there don't make mistakes? On the other hand we have a cheerleader who, as Johnson1620 has said, baggage has baggage. Who are you going to believe? People out to crucify Kobe for "alleged" rape and adultery make me wanna Where does the 1. lier 2. whore parts come in? Kobe has proven to be a lier...what has the accuser done to be labeled one? Kobe has proven to be a manwhore...what has the accuser done to be labeled one? The only thing that gives Kobe any type of credibility is the how he is marketed. Michael Jordan was a violent tempered, cheating, gambling addict yet his image was more squeeky clean than Kobe's in his playing days. If you are calling this girl a whorish psycho because of what you have been spoon fed about Kobe then you...well...I don't know what to say is wrong with you. I still like to clarify that I am neutral in this whole thing. I think both sides are looking pretty stupid. We don't know what happened, but for one side to call Kobe a rapist and the other to call this girl a money grubbing whore without knowing what happened is plain stupid. Get SOME facts of the CASE before leaping to judgements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted July 21, 2003 He likes under-aged teens and girls that look like they are under-aged, that we know for sure. What makes him so credible? Just because he can play hoops? Who’s the one that’s blind here? This point is such crap. He is only 24. He was dating his wife while he was still in high school. So when they first met they were both under age. That doesn't make him a pedophile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Kobe has proven to be a lier...what has the accuser done to be labeled one? Kobe has proven to be a manwhore...what has the accuser done to be labeled one? 1. Learn to spell "liar" 2. Kobe is a "manwhore" for cheating once? Ease up, honey... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted July 21, 2003 He scoffed at an LA Times reporter who even insinuated that he would ever be tempted to do so. His credibility is not exactly pristine. 1. It's not as if the man, if he was some kind of serial cheater, would be in interviews bragging about it. No one does that. So it's only expected that we would deny cheating publicly. Did it ever occur to you that at the time of this interview, those were his genuine feelings and that this may have been the FIRST time he did anything like this and that it was a huge MISTAKE? In the eyes of the law, no one's credibility is pristine. We've ALL lied. How are you gonna hold Kobe to a different standard? 2. He likes underaged teens or those who resemble them? When did this happen? Because he dated and then MARRIED an 18 year old? OMG, SOMEBODY CALL DA LAW~! Kobe's a pedophile...Riiiight. The woman he married was and is not underaged and neither is this woman who claims she was raped. Kobe's not that old himself. I'm 27 years old, much older than Bryant. If I look at a girl who's 19 years old, that makes me some kind of pervert child molester? I had no idea that made me R.Kelly. 3. Kobe has every right to his private life and his wishes to not have the media invade it should be respected. But just because you don't know the "REAL" Kobe Bryant doesn't mean that somewhere he has a basement stocked with kiddie porn and piles of Barely Legal movies under his bed. If you are calling this girl a whorish psycho because of what you have been spoon fed about Kobe then you...well...I don't know what to say is wrong with you. This has nothing to do with KOBE BRYANT, his image, etc. I'd say these exact same things if all this evidence came to light about anyone, famous or not. Call it experience and seeing too many situations like this to even count. This case may, through some miracle, prove to be the exception to the rule, but with everything presented thus far, I highly fucking doubt it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 21, 2003 He scoffed at an LA Times reporter who even insinuated that he would ever be tempted to do so. His credibility is not exactly pristine. 1. It's not as if the man, if he was some kind of serial cheater, would be in interviews bragging about it. No one does that. So it's only expected that we would deny cheating publicly. Did it ever occur to you that at the time of this interview, those were his genuine feelings and that this may have been the FIRST time he did anything like this and that it was a huge MISTAKE? In the eyes of the law, no one's credibility is pristine. We've ALL lied. How are you gonna hold Kobe to a different standard? 2. He likes underaged teens or those who resemble them? When did this happen? Because he dated and then MARRIED an 18 year old? OMG, SOMEBODY CALL DA LAW~! Kobe's a pedophile...Riiiight. The woman he married was and is not underaged and neither is this woman who claims she was raped. Kobe's not that old himself. I'm 27 years old, much older than Bryant. If I look at a girl who's 19 years old, that makes me some kind of pervert child molester? I had no idea that made me R.Kelly. 3. Kobe has every right to his private life and his wishes to not have the media invade it should be respected. But just because you don't know the "REAL" Kobe Bryant doesn't mean that somewhere he has a basement stocked with kiddie porn and piles of Barely Legal movies under his bed. If you are calling this girl a whorish psycho because of what you have been spoon fed about Kobe then you...well...I don't know what to say is wrong with you. This has nothing to do with KOBE BRYANT, his image, etc. I'd say these exact same things if all this evidence came to light about anyone, famous or not. Call it experience and seeing too many situations like this to even count. This case may, through some miracle, prove to be the exception to the rule, but with everything presented thus far, I highly fucking doubt it. But the only thing that has been presented is that she od'd some months ago. THAT'S IT!! Obviously there must be something since charges have been brought up. IF you are using Kobe's public image to discredit the accuser then you have no ground to stand on. Public image is a carefully created and maintained facade. You say it has nothing to do with his image but just a few post ago you were saying that who should we trust, the squeaky clean Kobe or the girl we know NOTHING about. Hell, people don't even know her name and are calling her a whorish liar(BTW, MrZsasz , when you resort to using typos as your argument, you don't have a argument...save it for when you have something to add). And BTW...please...everyone please tell me that noone is naive enough to believe that the FIRST time he cheated on his wife was in a hotel room in Denver fucking Colorado with a god damn 19 year old...PLEASE!!! PLEASE!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Agreed, his image has been concocted to make him look squeaky clean. But I say that not because I believe his marketing reps, I say that because I just happen to believe it to be true. If this sort of behavior were the norm, it would've come out before, just like this incident has. And I don't consider myself to be naive when I say that, yes, this very well could've been the first time he decided to cheat on his wife (especially considering he's only 24 years old with a 3 month old baby) and that he is now regretting this decision with every thought he can muster. You don't seem to mind telling us all that it is a very real possibility that Kobe might have raped this girl, but for some reason you won't use that same brand of logic to say not every NBA player is a chronic adulterer and that his may have been Kobe's first time. Seems like a double-standard to me. We have to look at both sides of the coin you tell us, but on your side, Kobe is an unfaithful man and ALWAYS HAS BEEN and you simply don't know that to be any more true than the "lying whore" arguments made about the alleged rape victim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 21, 2003 You want to find a soundbite of one of his teamates saying he would never cheat on his wife. I see plenty of them saying that Kobe would never have to rape a woman, that he would never commit rape so on and so forth. Not one was shook at the "He might have cheated on his wife" report. And while I think there is a real possibility that he did it, I think that it is a real possiblity that he didn't. I don't think anyone has enough info to have a realistic opinion of it. A girl says she was raped by Kobe and you say she is a lying money grubbing whore without knowing one bit of info about her. She might be just that, but it is alot more reasonable assuption that this wasn't his first time cheating than any of you guys assuptions about a girl you know nothing about. Yeah, I'll admit I am in the wrong for assuming that he is a multi time cheater, but I am not stretching nearly as far from facts as you guys are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Kobe has proven to be a lier...what has the accuser done to be labeled one? Kobe has proven to be a manwhore...what has the accuser done to be labeled one? 1. Learn to spell "liar" 2. Kobe is a "manwhore" for cheating once? Ease up, honey... Correction, he got caught cheating once on the backbone and strongest person he knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Well, he's on trial for rape, not adultery. Even bringing up the fact that he MAY be a multi-time cheater doesn't factor into the "is he a rapist?" argument AT ALL. He can cheat on his wife 20 times a DAY, but that doesn't mean that even ONCE he has to force himself on someone. I'm not here to defend either of those actions. They are both very wrong. I just don't think he's a rapist and call me crazy but I don't share the opinion that he is the scum of the Earth simply because he stuck his dick in someone other than his wife. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Well, he's on trial for rape, not adultery. Even bringing up the fact that he MAY be a multi-time cheater doesn't factor into the "is he a rapist?" argument AT ALL. He can cheat on his wife 20 times a DAY, but that doesn't mean that even ONCE he has to force himself on someone. I'm not here to defend either of those actions. They are both very wrong. I just don't think he's a rapist and I also don't share the opinion that he is the scum of the Earth because he stuck his dick in someone other than his wife. yeah and the alleged victim is claiming that she was raped not that she overdosed on over the counter pills. BTW, Kobe married his wife when she was 18 but he dated her for years before hand...meaning she was like 15-ish and he was 21. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ErekT2k Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Kobe is 24-25, and I think Vanessa Bryant is 21. Not sure though, but that doesn't seem like a big difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Yeah, it's the same "18 year old guy dating 15 year old girl" difference that everyone here seems to think a guy should do prison time for. Retarded. yeah and the alleged victim is claiming that she was raped not that she overdosed on over the counter pills. The huge difference is that her acts paint her as having a history of mental instability. Previous acts of adultery don't in ANY WAY point to Kobe even POSSIBLY being a VIOLENT sex offender. It just means he may like to get busy with people other than his old lady. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ErekT2k Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Yea, it's retarded but well, what can you do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Kobe has proven to be a lier...what has the accuser done to be labeled one? Kobe has proven to be a manwhore...what has the accuser done to be labeled one? 1. Learn to spell "liar" 2. Kobe is a "manwhore" for cheating once? Ease up, honey... Correction, he got caught cheating once on the backbone and strongest person he knows. Shaq? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted July 21, 2003 when has this girl given any indication that she wants his money? and the titles for these kobe updates get stupider and stupider. i bet the next one will be "ecuadorian bat-boy found alive in bryant's home." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Oh, you know it's coming. It's not as if she's doing this out of the kindness of her heart and to get Kobe off the streets before he "strikes again." Her machinations will be revealed soon enough. Latest Headline: Bryant Hires Filipina Transvestite Dwarf to Engage in Reconcilliation Threesome with He and His Wife I swear, you're right. They ARE getting more and more stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 21, 2003 I'm telling you folks...WE MINUTES from hearing the girl attempted Suicide when her parents Divorced and Her dog Fluffy was run over when she was 7 years old... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Kobe has proven to be a lier...what has the accuser done to be labeled one? Kobe has proven to be a manwhore...what has the accuser done to be labeled one? 1. Learn to spell "liar" 2. Kobe is a "manwhore" for cheating once? Ease up, honey... Correction, he got caught cheating once on the backbone and strongest person he knows. Shaq? Post of the Day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Yeah, because no one who gets raped is the least bit angry about it and would go to the police so the scumbag would be sent up the river. Seriously man, don't get ahead of yourself as to motivations and truths before you actually have them. I'm not saying that Kobe raped anyone, but to catagorize either person right now is way presumptious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ErekT2k Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Well said, Goodear. We really dunno wut happened and there are not enough facts or information to really support either side. I'm just finding it ridiculous that both sides want us to believe that they're right when they haven't released any concrete evidence. On a side note: yea I'm a laker fan, but I'm not supporting anyone. I just have this blinding hate for the prosecutor... i dunno y. There's also more things that he's not saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted July 21, 2003 I'm telling you folks...WE MINUTES from hearing the girl attempted Suicide when her parents Divorced and Her dog Fluffy was run over when she was 7 years old... actually, if you check out the other thread, the source said she had a friend who died right around the same time. According to the newspaper's report, Bryant's accuser was going through an extremely difficult period in her life at the time of the overdose. She returned home from her freshman year of college to find out her ex-boyfriend had taken up with another woman. Also, around the time of the overdose, close friend Nicole Clements died in a road accident while returning from high school graduation ceremonies. so it WASN'T just the boyfriend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crucifixio Jones Report post Posted July 21, 2003 I'm not saying Kobe raped her or didn't, but I'm not seeing how either of those incidents could play into making her more promiscuous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Kobe has proven to be a lier...what has the accuser done to be labeled one? Kobe has proven to be a manwhore...what has the accuser done to be labeled one? 1. Learn to spell "liar" 2. Kobe is a "manwhore" for cheating once? Ease up, honey... Correction, he got caught cheating once on the backbone and strongest person he knows. Shaq? Post of the Day. I try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Yeah, because no one who gets raped is the least bit angry about it and would go to the police so the scumbag would be sent up the river. Seriously man, don't get ahead of yourself as to motivations and truths before you actually have them. I'm not saying that Kobe raped anyone, but to catagorize either person right now is way presumptious. Most peoplr that get raped don't run off on vacation the day after it happens either. Also, from what I understand, Kobe was 17 when he and his wife started dating. He isn't a pedophile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted July 21, 2003 A story from Newsweek has several NBA players, calling this girl a basketball groupie. I heard it on my car radio, and haven't found anything more on the internet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 21, 2003 Yeah, because no one who gets raped is the least bit angry about it and would go to the police so the scumbag would be sent up the river. Seriously man, don't get ahead of yourself as to motivations and truths before you actually have them. I'm not saying that Kobe raped anyone, but to catagorize either person right now is way presumptious. Most peoplr that get raped don't run off on vacation the day after it happens either. Also, from what I understand, Kobe was 17 when he and his wife started dating. He isn't a pedophile. That's impossible! They couldn't have been together for 7 years! I remember hearing Magic Johnson say in an interview with Howard Stern that he is trying to talk Kobe out of getting married (to a girl that had or was going to graduate high school) and that couldn't have been more than 2 years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites