Official things about wwf that piss you off thread

[Guest Some Guy]

WWF terminology:

1)"Brand extension" WTF is that, it's a roster split, they haven't really "expanded" anything, they split the active roster in half and added a couple guys.  And where did the word "brand" come from any way?  What happened to promotion?  I liked that better, "brand" sounds so lame IMO.  

2)Calling the World champ the "Undisputed WWF Champion" when it should be the "Unified World Champion".  I wrote about this in the Old School Folder.

3)Every one in the company has to be "the greatest or most such and such in WWF history." Find a new way to try and get someone over, please.  

There are others I can't think of right now.  I am easily irritated by little things like this, I used to hate WCW lame names for finishers "The Bookend" and "Steiner Recliner" don't sound intimidating to me, the latter sounds comfortable actually.

 

I'm not going to get into who should/shouldn't be pushed or who's holding who down, but feel free to do so if you like.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

I couldn't agree more with number 2. Why is it called the "Undisputed WWF Championship" when the damned WWF Title was never disputed? They UNIFIED the goddamned titles, there was never a single "dispute" about this whole mess. Hell, "Unified World Champion" sounds a hell of a lot more dignified then "Undisputed WWF Champion."

 

But, I digress....

 

 

Something that's really pissing me off to no end is the Lawler/Ross announcing team(yes, I know, I know.... it's all been said before, but fuck it...). I just can't take listening to Ross anymore as he's started to remind of Tony Shiavone with all this blatant shilling garbage lately. Like when he was doing his "HAW HAW HAW" laugh as if what happened in the ring was such a FUNNY thing and everyone should laugh when Vince made him kiss his ass.

 

Lawler is a special case all by himself. I never would have let him back in the damend company at all. Ross is unhappy working with Heyman? Fuck that, let the fat fucker be pissed, RAW, Smackdown, and PPVs all went up about 85 notches in my book when Lawler wasn't around screaming "PUPPIES!" like the pedophilic geezer he has been since 99. Hell, the fact that some idiots can't get past the fact that Heyman actually tried CALLING THE DAMNED MATCH(gee, what a surprise) seemed to have rubbed them the wrong way and now they wanted the geezer back just so they could hear him chant "PUPPIES!" like good lil lemmings. Fuck Lawler...

[Guest]

"I used to hate WCW lame names for finishers "The Bookend" and "Steiner Recliner" don't sound intimidating to me, the latter sounds comfortable actually."

 

No doubt. I am with you on that one. Like the Angle Slam. Call it a god damn Olympic Slam. Please!

 

I know that everyone is complaining about this, so I am not treading any new ground here, but you said I could vent so I am going to. The writing absolutely SUCKS! SUCKS! I said it SUCKS! Can the current writing team come up with more then two storylines at a time? Why is it that we have so many wrestlers with nothing to do? I know Russo is not a popular man around here, but at least his stint in the WWF was killer. I remember every match on the card having a story behind it. Nobody was left out in the cold with nothing to do. Bring in some new writers.

 

Give me a clean freaking finish every hundredth match or so. Losing clean does not make you look bad. Mankind got over by losing clean. Put the egos aside gentlemen. I remember how proud i was of Triple H when he put the Undertaker over at Wrestlemania Seventeen. He should do that more often. So should everyone else.

 

Get rid of the women. Really. They cannot wrestle. Or put them back in the role that Russo had for them. At least they presented something interesting to watch back then.

 

Put the belts on someone and let them hold them for more then three months staright. Every single title the WWF owns now is a joke with the exception of the world title. Make them mean something again. These lower belts are the same ones that your current main eventers used to feud over. Why does nobody care about them now? Because you are making a joke out of them.

 

Make the announcers call the god damn match that they are watching. Show the wrestlers a little bit of respect instead of talking about the main event all evening long.

 

Let your wrestlers wrestle for more then three minutes at a time.

 

I am sure I will have more to say later.

[Guest Some Guy]

Couldn't agree more about Lawler, he doesn't evem put the talent over.  He is constantly making jokes and mocking their gimmicks.  Imagine if Lawler was on Mania 17 when Test got stuck in the ropes and then Eddy fell on his ass, he would have been making jokes about that the whole match rather than doing what Heymen did, which was ignore it and go on calling the match.  Fuck Lawler, he's a shell of his former self, bring back Heymen.

[Guest Risk]

I agree with everything so far.  I've also never liked the IC title, because the name doesn't make sense.  I mean it means ALL CONTINENTS, so what is the World title then?  Very not clever on the WWF's part.  I didn't see what was wrong with North American title, other than NWA Midwest having the same name.

 

They have TOO many titles as it is, when they should only have three or four.

[Guest Risk]

Also, why didn't they just do the split after WCW was bought?  McMahon would have been a hero to WCW fans and made A LOT more money.

[Guest Some Guy]

Vince apparently couldn't get TNN to give him a new show, so he couldn't have done a WCW show and WCW wouldn't have drawn with Booker and DDP being the only big names.  This of course could have been successful if he brought in some big names and didn't make his dip shit son the figure head owner (which nobody bought for a second) and had asked TNN before he bought WCW, but Vince didn't have very good year in 2001.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

Gee where to start.....

 

the announcers quality

the match quality or lack thereof

the storyline quality

the draft... i mean brand extension

the lack of elevation of deserving wrestlers

Hiring workers who have a history of causing locker room problems

pushing wrestlers who are 50 something

having the booker wrestle in a tittle match

 

i think that's enough for mow...

[Guest godthedog]

this may turn out to be the most popular thread in the history of this board.

 

copied from an nwo thread:i hate the new world older.  they've only been on tv since february & they've already been involved in 2 of the dumbest things i've ever seen (rocky being killed in the ambulance & nash being caught in a net).  wrestling rings all over america should ban together and get a restraining order against nash, so that he doesn't come within 50 feet of one.  hogan is boring on the mic & sucks almost as bad in the ring.  hall isn't all that bad, but he has no place being so high on the card.  i don't have any problem with x-pac, but there's NO REASON WHATSOEVER for him to be in a main event angle.  they've brought back the crappy old school screwjob endings (which piss me off even more than the screwjob endings the wwf usually uses), they aren't any kind of threat as a heel group, & they're not entertaining.

 

i hate the fact that kurt angle is slipping.  seems like since the new year, he's been on auto pilot.  and i know he's supposed to be all about the suplexes, but that doesn't mean that his entire arsenal has to consist of suplexes.  i swear to god, in his last tv match all he did was punch, kick & do suplexes.  if it didn't look so cool in the first place, it would be as bad as trips with his strange knee fetish.  when the most versatile worker in the company is becoming repetitive, we're all fucked.

 

i hate the fact that, since angle's slipping, we are left without anyone to guarantee us a good match every night.  it's like the russo era, only without the big ratings.

 

i hate the fact that there wasn't a single clean win in any of the matches on raw last week.  it's like the russo era, only without the big ratings.

 

also, about the angle slam: i read on angle's website that the olympic committee had issues with the 'olympic slam', so they changed it.

[Guest The Mighty Damaramu]

They really do need a new announcing team. Hey what's that Jesse Ventura guy doing anyways?(joking ) But Jesse was the ultimate heel announcer. Hell he wasn't even a heel. He really told it like it was. They need someone else to tell it like it is. q

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

myself i perfered Bobby. god damn it he was the man i actually watched all the crappy wcw reviews just to see "the brain"

[Guest Cataclysm911]

So call it "The All-American Slam" or the "Grand Slam" anything is better than "The Angle Slam" even if it does sound like a breakfast at Denny's.

[Guest JHawk]

Always a fun thread idea.  My two cents.

 

On the idea of the undisputed title, I refer to George Carlin: "If it's undisputed, what's all the fighting about?"  Even using "Unified WWF Champion" would make more sense so we don't have the NWA or WWA making complaints.

 

Put somebody on commentary that can call the damn match.  Jokes ar fine as long as the match still gets its just due.  Ventura and Heenan knew how to be funny and still get the talent over.

 

Finisher names don't bother me as much, but I will agree about the Steiner Recliner sounding comfortable.

 

As for the writing:

 

Is it really that hard to do the obvious once in a while?  Why couldn't Test be the WCW mole when it was the only thing that made sense?  Why couldn't the Dudley Boyz win the tag team titles on SmackDown and stay a team when nobody wants them to split up?

 

And the logic gaps.  When the fuck did Stephanie become allowed to appear on TV after the Survivor Series?  She didn't make up with Vince until the renewal of the wedding vows and Flair never allowed her out there?  Which reminds me, how about finishing an angle on occasion?  Wasn't the point of HHH's return being whether or not Flair was going to rehire Stephanie or not?

 

And I won't go into who should or shouldn't get pushed because we'll never regain order in this thread.

[Guest KoR Fungus]

I hate Vince McMahon and his fucking ego.  I hate the way he destroys his own company in order to bury an enemy that he's already bought out.  I hate that he fucked up the Invasion to make his guys look better than WCW guys, even though WCW guys were also his employees, getting paid money by him.  I hate that he pushes people who he personally likes or who have been around the WWF for a long time, instead of pushing guys who are actually over and deserve it.

 

I hate the whole idea of paying your dues.  I hate people who deserve pushes not getting them because they haven't been around long enough.  I hate old, out of shape has-beens stinking up my TV simply because they've paid their dues.  I hate old, out of shape has-beens who haven't paid their dues stinking up my TV in a cheap attempt to pop ratings.  I hate direction changes in a cheap attempt to pop ratings.  I hate cheap attempts to pop ratings.

 

I hate that HHH has turned into a bad Scott Steiner wannabe instead of sticking with the style that made him so amazing in 2000.  I hate that he is the world champion anyway, even though he's not deserving and not over enough.

 

And right now, above all, I hate the fact that I don't get UPN, and that all the good workers will be on SmackDown.  Sigh, so unfair.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

oh yeah i want to add to my list of things i hate....

 

the mcmahon family

[Guest Shaved Bear]

those stupid names for finishers

the Litacanrana

Poetry in Motion

Twist of Fate

SWANton Bomb

 

anything involving the Hardyz sucks

[Guest TheDames7]

I hate the way the draft was done.  It seems like Vince's ego got the better of him again as he ends up with the better show.

 

Dames - Dodged The Draft

[Guest TJH]

Too many damn PPV's!

Every month they just churn them out, often including matches with little or no build up. Go back to having Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, King of the Ring, Summerslam and Survivor Series.

If they gave feuds and storylines time to develop they might actually have meaning when the PPV comes around, and the titles would gain legitimacy by not changing so often.

 

Women cannot wrestle. Period.

 

People who refuse to job.

 

Stephanie McMahon writing.

 

Chuck and Billy.

 

The Matrix movie. So godamn confusing.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

I hate crappy nostalgia acts with no redeeming value.

 

I hate horrible bookers who force themselves down my throat

 

I hate proposed pushes that are dropped for no reason

 

I hate Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, and the Undertaker

 

I hate writers who don't give the wrestlers their due

 

I hate the tag division, and everything about it

 

I hate flagrant wastes of money

 

I hate lazy wrestlers who are pushed anyway

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

The Matrix movie. So godamn confusing.

i thought i was the only one!

[Guest Zero_Cool]

I hate dog poo building up the main event of WM.

[Guest Cataclysm911]

I hate having to watch wrestlers whom I know can actually wrestle not get TV time because people like Triple H & Hogan have to have backstage skits.

 

I hate the fact that the McMahon's feel that they have to have one of them on camera at all time, let alone involved in the main event in some way.

 

I hate how the WWF acts like "marks" are the only fans that matter, when all of the "smart fans" are the ones that have kept them alive, yet when something goes wrong, we get the blame instead of them blaming the real problem, which is themselves.

 

I hate when people start liking or disliking a certain wrestler just because everyone else does.

 

I hate the fact that no one ever "passes out from pain" any more.

 

I hate how the WWF will never have a time limit draw or double KO.

 

I hate Vince McMahon for thinking that only people who are "hosses" can be successful. Did he forget about HBK & Bret Hart?

 

I hate when the crowd only cheers for the good guys and boos the bad guys. Can't people form their own opinions?

 

I hate not having mid card storylines.

 

I hate watching the eye candy wrestle badly, so to make up for it, the WWF hires an UG and has her slather the eye candy. I just hate the WWF women division.

 

I hate David Flair getting any TV time on RAW, even if it was just to get slathered.

 

I hate not having an undercard at all.

 

I hate Terri Runnel's face.

 

I hate Maven "getting a shot."

 

I hate how the WWF has too many titles, and they all mean dick.

 

I hate how the WWF has too many PPV's, so to solve the problem they raise the cost of each one.

 

I hate matches being too predictable.

 

I hate people who cry on Tough Enough. Shouldn't that be an automatic DQ?

 

I hate this post because I hate to vent.

[Guest goodhelmet]

After being spoiled in 2000 and 2001, the quality of matches has gone WAY downhill. I can deal with the bad storylines, wrong guys getting pushed and the lockerroom politics when the wrestling is above average. It's been so subpar lately that I'm finding it easier to miss the shows and not care. More than anything, the decrease in match quality is what I hate about the WWF. Get well soon Benoit!!!!!!

[Guest Inferno42058]

I hate the fact that there aren't any managers anymore.

 

I hate women wrestlers. Hey, don't get me wrong, I like tits and ass just as much as the next guy, but get these no-talent chicks off my TV. How many times do I have to see a "Litacanrana?"

 

I hate Kurt Angle being on SmackDown! and not RAW.

 

I hate Jerry Lawler. Is he supposed to be a heel? I don't get it.

 

I hate 2 minute matches with no story. Even the old Superstars show's matches told better stories than what's being peddled on us these days.

 

I don't mind 50 year old wrestlers, but please, keep them out of the Main Event.

 

I hate the fact that HHH gets the big push simply because he's fucking the boss. He's so undeserving of the belt, it's not funny. People wanted to see him win it so bad at WM that they WALKED out of the show during the MAIN EVENT!!! HHH means death.

[Guest]

"I hate how the WWF acts like "marks" are the only fans that matter, when all of the "smart fans" are the ones that have kept them alive"

 

Amen to that.

 

What was so confusing about the Matrix anyway?

[Guest Special K]

I hate short-ass matches.

 

I hate that the 'WWF style' that forces wrestlers to use a maximum of 8 moves (I think Tajiri's the biggest instance of this)

 

I hate the lack of midcard build, the midcard's what kept me watching when the ME was Diesel.

 

I hate that RVD gets his pops editted. Do they WANT to be unsuccesful?

 

I hate that egos make it impossible to give someone a strong push. Whoever jobs ALWAYS has to get their heat back. Unless they're facing UT, and unless their name is Booker T.

 

I hate the nWo. Way to invade guys.

 

Most of all I hate Stephanie.

[Guest Anglesault]

Couldn't agree more about Lawler, he doesn't evem put the talent over.  He is constantly making jokes and mocking their gimmicks.  Imagine if Lawler was on Mania 17 when Test got stuck in the ropes and then Eddy fell on his ass, he would have been making jokes about that the whole match rather than doing what Heymen did, which was ignore it and go on calling the match.  Fuck Lawler, he's a shell of his former self, bring back Heymen.

I would have made jokes about that too.

[Guest Anglesault]

i hate the fact that kurt angle is slipping.  seems like since the new year, he's been on auto pilot.  and i know he's supposed to be all about the suplexes, but that doesn't mean that his entire arsenal has to consist of suplexes.  i swear to god, in his last tv match all he did was punch, kick & do suplexes.  if it didn't look so cool in the first place, it would be as bad as trips with his strange knee fetish.  when the most versatile worker in the company is becoming repetitive, we're all fucked.

He's unmotivated. What would you do if you (Along with Steve Austin) CARRIED the WWF in 2001, come into 2002 and both of you have been shoved into pointless midcard feuds? The only problem is he would be fired if he walked.

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

Anglesault, dude your always on here lol.

 

And anyway, we just gotta face it: With the new year came the return of near every lame-wrestling politician who have all now taken cosy spots at the top, while Rock, Jericho, Angle and Austin aint carrying the ball anymore.

 

That was the good thing about the winter and most of the autumn also: It was all of the aforementioned quartet in the headlines, plus a RVD here or a Booker T there, which didnt harm anything. Now we got Cripple H, Hulk Hohum, Big Lazy, Alka Hall, X Prick and the Underseller in our faces, not to mention Steph returning after being "fired forever".

 

Gee, now where does that sound familiar from?

[Guest Anglesault]

And they are killing wrestling. The Rock is fucking Robin to Hulk's Batman, Austin is fuming, Angle is unmotivated and Jericho is feuding with Lita. THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANT TO HAPPEN TO THESE FOUR MEN. Fuck you, Hunter. Fuck you, Nash. Fuck you, Hogan. Look what they have done to wrestling!