Greatest survivor series match ever?

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

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[Guest muzanisa]

87 or 88 when Demolition turned?

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

I cant remember, but i do remember that both years had kickass tag team elimination matches, they both lasted like 45 minutes.

[Guest muzanisa]

One year was slightly better. Time to get out the tapes. I'll vote in a couple of hours.

NLB you seem to be up to date with Japan and did I read somewhere that you're from England? Do you get the weekly programs from an English trader? If so who?

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

My information is all from the Smarks and http://www.big-book.cjb.net - but i do learn fast i guess.

 

Anyway i just wish that the American scene would liven up a bit, otherwise i might be a full-fledged Puro guy in a year or so.

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

COME ON PEOPLE VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    ???

[Guest Metallica]

Wild Card match

 

The greatest Survivor Series match I've seen...and the most fun to watch.

[Guest Dace59]

Just a side note, the Big Book is full of so many holes and contradictions it's untrue.. you can't trust it.

As any other move smark will tell you.

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

Well anything that teaches me how to do a Torture Rack Piledriver or a Electric Chair Straitjacket Suplex gets a recommendation from me

[Guest Dace59]

Yer, the other versions of the Pyscho Driver and Japanese Ocean Cyclone Suplex are better though.

And what so hard about working out how to do them anyway?

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

Well, its the not knowing that they existed part that kept me from realising my potential i guess.

[Guest Dace59]

LOL, ok.. you can just think move up yourself you know.

Maybe we should start a creat a move topic?

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

Maybe... but my NL Buster would kill it

 

And could ya at least vote in my poll? Thats the reason why were talking here, lol.

 

On the subject of move making, have you ever thought of "twisting" suplexes like Saturn did with the Fisherman's?

 

Pumphandle and Vertical versions both work, infact i saw EZ Money do a suplex into a swinging neckbreaker.

[Guest Dace59]

Saturn's move is actually just a swinging fisherman's cralde. He doesn't suplex them over.

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

But the punchline is that he took a suplex and turned it into a spinning move. It's possible with other suplex starting positions, i think Pumphandle is best - just clutch that wrist and spin em over so they flip.

 

Can you also imagine a wheelbarrow/inverted powerbomb lift into an atomic drop, and a inverted Samoan Neckbreaker?

[Guest Dace59]

Pumphandle is best - just clutch that wrist and spin em over so they flip

That's a ball and chain, if I get what you're thinking.

 

Can you also imagine a wheelbarrow/inverted powerbomb lift into an atomic drop, and a inverted Samoan Neckbreaker?

First one is plain and simple. Second, you mean an inverted TKO? Been done.

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

No i mean inverted Samoan Neckbreaker not inverted TKO:

 

Stand behind em, grab them under their arms and throw them up like an inverted Sky High. Let go and turn around, catching a neckrbeaker.

 

The original Samoan Neckbreaker was done by Rikishi a few times, its a Sky High hoist into a Diamond Cutter.

[Guest Dace59]

You mean tossing inverted neckbreaker that Rikishi did.

It was not a Sky High hoist, whatever CZW says.

It's still be done.. not very well though.

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

To me, a Sky High hoist is grabbing under their armpits and lifting them up high. You could call it a "Baby Hoist" if you want, because thats what parents to do their kids.

 

Anyway lets get back on topic for this thread: Did you vote for Wild Card or Winner Take All Dace?

[Guest Dace59]

Wild Card, I have vague memories of liking it when I was younger, but that's about it.

And anymore move stuff goes to the moves thread.

[Guest EUX4life]

bubba ray dudley used to do that move that you called the samoan something or other.  the sky high hoist into the diamond cutter way back when in ECW.  it was the bubba cutter.  to give you a point of reference, he used it when he was a singles competitor, BEFORE he and D-Von teamed up.  he was still a sympathetic hick face and the rest of the dudleys wanted him to join them.  that was fuckin years ago

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

I remember that, back in the days just after Buffer Day Dudley.

 

Then Taz killed him in a 2 minute squash match.

[Guest BernieLicious]

I voted for the 1999 match between E&C and the Hardies vs Too Cool and the Hollys, just for the fact that it is the only PPV match where Too Cool are shown as heels, which is when I really liked them.

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

Just for the record, i voted for the 1988 tag team 1. All of those double team moves, cool pinning sequences plus the crowd was up for it.

 

I should have pointed that out but i was too busy arguing with either Anglesault or Dace.

[Guest Midnight Express83]

I voted 88 because its just weird seeing Dynamite Kid, HBK, and Bret Hart on one team. God, if injuries and poltics never came about just picture any combo of those guys.

[Guest RetroRob215]

Demoliton turned at the 88 Survivor Series

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

That was the double turn wasnt it? Them and the powers of pain.

[Guest RetroRob215]

Yeah, Fuji left Demolition for the Powers of Pain.  Thus making the Demos faces because of sympathy and the POP heels because they had Fuji.

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

Yeah well it was a smart move because everyone was marking out for the Demos anyway.

 

I mean, i didnt see them wrestle until about 1994 but when i saw WM4 and their Tag Title Victory, i was marking for them too.

 

Anyway on the subject: Any other memorable heel turns at Survivor Series PPVs? (Owen Hart in 1993 doesnt count because he was just sowing the seeds for Rumble '94).

[Guest RetroRob215]

A heel probably turned on his team in the Wildcard match, but that is only because faces and heels were mismatched.