Guest JaKyL25 Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Okay, the conversation went so long that some of the opening stuff is lost, but it's the usual "He claims the Law of Prime, we try to provide counter-examples" stuff. The conversation is divided into sections per his request. Topic titles are in bold: Prime JKL25JKL: I don't know the exact statistics, but I would wager that most of the great novels were not written by 28-32 year olds. JKL25JKL: But unless I can prove it, it doesn't matter, does it? Lkdg32: right JKL25JKL: I would say that for any sort of physical activity/sport/job, you're pretty much correct, that a person does peak around those ages unless mitigating outside circumstances come into play. An activity/job that's purely mental, however, where the person only gets better with experience and when the physical abilities don't matter, prime is much later. Lkdg32: Prime is for physical AND mental abilities Lkdg32: 33+ you decline in IQ Lkdg32: You solve problems much slower Lkdg32: Your thinking is worse Lkdg32: You decline as an author JKL25JKL: Do you have proof that "33+ you decline in IQ"? That seems false. Lkdg32: There is some proof backing this, and it is logical, because older people solve problems slower than when they were 28-32, they decline in IQ Lkdg32: IQ is how fast you solve problems JKL25JKL: The loss in IQ can't be THAT extreme that it makes the gains in experience negligible, can it? Lkdg32: You gradually decline in IQ Lkdg32: The pace varies in which you do varies between person JKL25JKL: But someone who didn't lose a lot of IQ rapidly but gained a lot of experience could be a better author or chess player or whatever at 35 than 32. Lkdg32: Kurt Angle at 33 is better than Kurt Angle at 30 Lkdg32: so yes Lkdg32: At WRESTLING Lkdg32: nothing else Lkdg32: not in ability JKL25JKL: How old is Kurt right now? Lkdg32: 34 Lkdg32: Born December 9, 1968 JKL25JKL: So he was 27 when he won the Gold Medal? JKL25JKL: But according to you he would have been even BETTER at the next Olympics in 2000 had he kept at it? JKL25JKL: Seeing as how he'd be 31. Lkdg32: right JKL25JKL: Obviously that's no guarantee he would have won again, due to the other athletes that could have been entering their prime for the 2000 Olympics that could have been better than Angle in his prime, right? Lkdg32: No guarantee he would win, but 2000 Olympic Angle would be better than 1996 Olympic Angle JKL25JKL: Interesting. JKL25JKL: The fact that Angle wasn't even in his prime when he won the Gold medal sure makes anyone who WAS in their prime at the '96 Olympics and didn't win that medal look bad. Lkdg32: Not true, that is like saying Karl Malone makes Brian Grant look bad, because Malone is better, and Grant is prime JKL25JKL: Okay, I'll take that. They may not have been bad, just Angle had the potential to be WAY better than them. Lkdg32: HHH is officially two years past his prime Lkdg32: Today is his 34th birthday Lkdg32: I only wish he never tore his quad in May 2001, and since he tore his quad, I wish he returned in ring shape so he could have performed like he did from 28-31 JKL25JKL: Eh, he only missed a year of Prime. Lkdg32: Jennifer Lopez turned 33 three days ago Lkdg32: No longer in prime Lkdg32: and HBK turned 38 on the 22nd of this month, he is now officially 6 years past his prime Lkdg32: HBK wishes it was 1997, back in his prime, or 1996, when he didn't have the injuries and was trying harder JKL25JKL: I don't think he thinks that, but he was much better back then, yes. Dreams Lkdg32: What do you think about dreams? Lkdg32: Do you think if you dream of something, it will likely come true? JKL25JKL: I don't remember them much. JKL25JKL: Nope. My dreams that I remember are usually way out there. Lkdg32: Like when you dream, you use your brain to the highest extent in figuring something out of what happened Lkdg32: or what can happen JKL25JKL: When I was 5 I dreamed that animated blobs were trying to pull me away from a picnic with my mom on a hill with a tree, and I was holding onto the tree in defense. I don't think that will ever come true. Lkdg32: You don't always dream about what I said, you can dream about fictional things JKL25JKL: I never remember any dreams about like what you said then, sorry. Lkdg32: About things that are on your mind, but I believe the mind is at the most creative and the most intelligent when you dream JKL25JKL: Is this a new theory/law? Lkdg32: no, it is just what i think Lkdg32: i have no proof of it Lkdg32: it can be a theory, but it is not law JKL25JKL: Gotcha. Recently Banned Posters Lkdg32: that king of kingdoms guy was excellent, he shouldn't have been banned Lkdg32: he was hilarious JKL25JKL: Well, he broke a rule enough to annoy lots of people. Lkdg32: He broke a rule, but he was banned because he was annoying that they used that rule to ban him, not because he kept on breaking that rule Lkdg32: Because he didn't until the end right before he was banned Lkdg32: *he was annoying to them JKL25JKL: Probably, but I fail to see why it was worth keeping him around. He didn't show much potential. This is a relatively high-class board. Lkdg32: For humor, and he didn't ruin any threads Lkdg32: For instance Rico should be banned for creating the 100 reasons why Goldberg > HHH thread, because that is the worst thread ever JKL25JKL: Did you see his stuff in the WWE folder though? He was starting to be "humorous" in there too. Lkdg32: Nobody on TSM likes Goldberg, and a HHH > Goldberg would be funny to the people on TSM, Goldberg > HHH is just dumb and got very few views for a comparing thread Lkdg32: Hi everyone (Pages 1 2 3 ) I'm a newbie here LOL! IS EAGEN A FUDDY DUDDY RUDE DUDE TO THE NOOB! Lkdg32: look at the titles and subtitles, they are hilarious JKL25JKL: I wouldn't go that far. JKL25JKL: At first I didn't even think it was a gimmick. Lkdg32: Obviously with those titles it seems he would be a gimmick poster Lkdg32: He is mocking that he is a noob Lkdg32: Hey guys new N00b here LOLz! Lkdg32: He didn't do anything wrong on the WWE forum other than maybe breaking rule #3 a couple of times, which I don't know of just think he probably did JKL25JKL: I just thought he was a regular person with very very poor grammar and no ability to contribute to a thread. Lkdg32: He definitely could be that, but it is hard to tell Society & Sexual Norms Lkdg32: Now I'm wondering if a guy and girl and and a dolphin were left alone outside of society, kind of like in the movie Biodome, would the guy get arroused by whichever is more sexually attractive, the dolphin or the female human or would he get arroused by the female automatically and never arroused by the dolphin Lkdg32: *and a dolphin Lkdg32: And I mean their whole lives outside of society Lkdg32: With them having enough things to survive JKL25JKL: Like in The Blue Lagoon? Lkdg32: Never seen it JKL25JKL: It's basically what you described without a dolphin. Lkdg32: I just doubt humans are automatically turned on by other humans, I believe that is the norm Lkdg32: I believe that humans get turned on sexually, and if they didn't know the norms, they would get turned on first by whichever is more sexually attractive, the girl or the dolphin JKL25JKL: Some people get shipwrecked, including 2 babies. After the adults build shelter and establish a place to live, they die somehow, and the toddlers are left to grow up alone on the island. They eventually discover how to hunt and how to have sex and all that. Lkdg32: Oh I've seen that I believe Lkdg32: Except the some of the plot you said is incorrect JKL25JKL: How does it happen? I forget. Lkdg32: If it is the movie i think it is, only 1 adult made it with 2 kids, not babies JKL25JKL: I remember the kids growing up, but now how they got there. Lkdg32: Right, if there are 2 kids, they could have sex Lkdg32: But if there are a male, female, and a dolphin who have never experienced society, they will have sex with whoever they think if the most sexually attractive Lkdg32: *is the most JKL25JKL: All other animals mate within their own species, and they don't have "societal norms." JKL25JKL: You never hear of a monkey trying to mate with a parrot, for example. Lkdg32: Animals usually experience norms, they usually see animals of their same species and pick up the norms JKL25JKL: You should test this theory. Lkdg32: Yeah but it would take a long time Lkdg32: I would have to raise two animals and never walk them outside where they can see species of their types Lkdg32: And another thing is why do we get sexually turned on to the opposite sex? Why don't we get sexually turned on to paintings and artistically turned on to the opposite sex? JKL25JKL: Putting homosexuality aside for a second, people are attracted to the opposite sex because that's how the species survives, by reproducing. We're genetically predisposed to want to pass on our genes. Lkdg32: That isn't proven Lkdg32: People have sex either for pleasure or to make a baby, but a lot of people are never mothers or fathers Sexual Arousal vs. Artistic Arousal Lkdg32: So why do we get sexually turned on to the opposite sex? Why don't we get sexually turned on to paintings and artistically turned on to the opposite sex? Lkdg32: When I say sexually i mean for pleasure Lkdg32: sexual pleasure JKL25JKL: So you'd follow that up by having sex with a painting? Lkdg32: No, that would be impossible, but for a person to masturbate to a painting and to view the opposite sex as art instead of a sexually pleasurable object JKL25JKL: People DO masturbate to drawn images at times. Lkdg32: I'm talking about generic art Lkdg32: Or any art other than the opposite sex Lkdg32: Other than the human body JKL25JKL: Why do you think someone would be sexually aroused by art? Was it just an arbitrary choice? Lkdg32: I am not saying I think they would, am I just saying why are they never sexually aroused by art and never artisically aroused by the opposite sex? Lkdg32: *I am just saying JKL25JKL: I think people can get artistically aroused by the opposite sex. That's why people paint others in the nude. Lkdg32: Maybe, but people could get sexually aroused by a painting JKL25JKL: As for art sexually arousing, that's pointless. It can AROUSE, sure. I've gotten a mental hard-on for great movies and songs and wrestling matches and such, but not an actual erection. There's no way to actually have sex with the art in question, so the body knows it's pointless to be sexually aroused. Lkdg32: I mean to masturbate to it Lkdg32: I am wondering what is the difference between artistic arrousal and sexual arrousal JKL25JKL: Isn't most masturbation centered around an imagined sexual situation? There's nothing sexual to great art. Lkdg32: It is possible to view wrestling as something sexual and jack off to it, and to view the opposite sex as artistic, but what is the difference between the two arrousals? Lkdg32: People masturbate to things on porn sites all the time, but that doesn't mean they are thinking about sexual situations, they could just be thinking that a part of their body turns them on sexually JKL25JKL: Sexual arousal = I want to have sex with the object in question. Artistic arousal = I am completely turned on by the object in question, but since that's the extent of the amount of contact that could come from it, there's no need to become sexually aroused. Lkdg32: Then when a person jacks off to a photo of someone's breast on a porn site, is that artistic arousal not sexual arousal? JKL25JKL: Sexual, because they're on some level imagining sexual situations involving the person the breast is attached to. JKL25JKL: There ARE exceptions though. JKL25JKL: Some people are aroused by trees, for example. I can't account for them. Lkdg32: I mean a picture of breasts in which the person is not seen, just the breasts JKL25JKL: I can't really imagine being sexually aroused by that at all. That's just me though. JKL25JKL: Unless you mentally project a body onto the breasts. Lkdg32: Why don't people jack off to paintings? They can be more attractive than the opposite sex JKL25JKL: Any member of the opposite sex that a painting is more attractive than, you wouldn't masturbate to anyways. Lkdg32: Why not? Lkdg32: It is possible Lkdg32: To gain the same pleasure Lkdg32: or more, if the painting is more attractive JKL25JKL: But not SEXUAL pleasure. Lkdg32: When people masturbate, it is not always for sexual pleasure JKL25JKL: Really? Lkdg32: Or are you saying everytime a person masturbates, they are thinking about having sex with them? Lkdg32: That must make most people losers, since they don't fufill what they want Lkdg32: They don't end up having sex with the person they jacked off to JKL25JKL: Maybe not actually HAVING sex with the person, but imagining the person involved in some sexual activity, yes. JKL25JKL: And I will acknowledge that I am a loser. Lkdg32: Then you should kill yourself JKL25JKL: LOL why's that? Lkdg32: brb Lkdg32: A loser is someone who isn't enjoying his life Lkdg32: No reason for a person like that to live Lkdg32: If they aren't happy Lkdg32: People must adjust, once they see they aren't happy with something, if possible they need to immediately adjust so they are happy again JKL25JKL: Eh, I've never really been HAPPY for anything more than a few instances. I'm usually just content. Lkdg32: You need to be enjoying your life, or else there is no point of living JKL25JKL: Eh, I've never quite found anything much to fully enjoy. Lots of things I like, but nothing yet has really made me "happy". Lkdg32: Then if you can, you need to seek it JKL25JKL: I can't fathom what that would be though. That's a lot to swallow all at once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 27, 2003 wE SERIOUSLY need to contemplate a PRIME folder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JaKyL25 Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Question: I'm trying to edit something in the post, and it's not letting me. I've edited plenty of my posts before, no problem, but this time it won't work. The text box where my message is has a bunch of HTML (I assume) gibberish at the end of the post, and I get NOTHING on the page loading underneath the text box, so there's no option to "Submit Modified Post." Anyone have any clue what's up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 27, 2003 question...How come he talks to YOU? I mean No offense but why doesn't he talk to one of the "bigger" names here like Barron or AS or CWM or R.R.R? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JaKyL25 Report post Posted July 27, 2003 *gasp* You mean I'm not a "big name"? Even after I went on my mission to uncover my CWMOSITY and CHOKETALITY? He just said that he DOES talk to the big names, but the Prime concept needs to be made known to everyone. Though he WOULD like to get in touch with AS, if he would disclose his AIM name. Why was this guy banned originally anyway? I missed it during my TSM sabbatical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MarvinisaLunatic Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Can we have a banning of the next poster who posts a conversation with Prime Guy. Seriously. Is there a need to post a new topic every time you talk to the idiot? I mean, I could possibly see it if it were someone who was famous, or important, or something, but its Prime Guy. Give it a freaking rest! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JaKyL25 Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Okay, this is kinda weird-- I got tired of talking to him and listening to him try to goad me into talking to Dames to try to get him unbanned, so I blocked him. He then tries to contact me on almost 10 Screen names (and is STILL DOING IT as we speak) and I just keep blocking them, one after the other. Is there any limit to the amount of AIM names someone can have? One of the screen names was "Cuteassdolphin96", which REALLY makes me rethink that "attracted to dolphins" stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 27, 2003 The guy has Emotionally Conflicted Issues. I'll talk to him... I'll seriously fuck this kid up so hard he'll be shitting outta his ears come monday morning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JaKyL25 Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Can we have a banning of the next poster who posts a conversation with Prime Guy. Seriously. Is there a need to post a new topic every time you talk to the idiot? I mean, I could possibly see it if it were someone who was famous, or important, or something, but its Prime Guy. Give it a freaking rest! Everyone else was doing it. I just wanted to be cool like Eagan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Your first mistake was trying to be like Eagan...then it was talking to Prime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JaKyL25 Report post Posted July 27, 2003 What? But..but on page 432 of So You Want to Worship The A-Team?, it says something about two wrongs making a right, doesn't it? *Flips open the book to the page* ...dammit. I should have read the fine print. Apparantly ANYTHING involving Eagan is completely damning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Don't Look at me... CWM wrote it... I just added two rules 1. In A-Team, You do NOT talk about A-team 2. In A-Team, you do NOT talk about A-team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mattdotcom Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Prime won't talk to me anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Old Me Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Prime won't talk to me anymore. Maybe we have scared him away for good, but I doubt it. He see's how everyone's fucking with him now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2003 Lkdg32: For instance Rico should be banned for creating the 100 reasons why Goldberg > HHH thread, because that is the worst thread ever *clears throat FUCK YOU PRIME! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
