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This Kane stuff could be good....

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Guest Goodear

I'm not a guy that says this sort of thing, but I could drop a fucking top rope elbow and I'm 99% sure I could fall on my ass and have a guy I'm holding jump with me.

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Guest Trivia247

Shane has the skills to bounce around and throw right hands..then hit that one big Bump/spot thats all... He has some talent for a Non wrestler...but he is still a Nonwrestler

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Guest RavishingRickRudo

Again, if Shane wasn't a McMahon, he'd be jumpin off ladders into cardboard boxes in his backyard _pretending_ to be one.

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You know before the Shane McMahon BS happened

The only BS is someone thinking that Kane taking all of Shane's abuse and then fucking LAUGHING about it makes him any less of a monster.

He shouldn't have taken any of the abuse in the first place! Shane should've ran at him in the ring and gotten mowed the fuck down. And if he did get him over the rope he certainly shouldn't have needed big strong Mr. McMahon to run over there and rescue him. Then he shouldn't have run away or even been taking the chairshots.

HOW CAN THIS BE ANY CLEARER. SHANE SHOULDN'T EVEN HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO GET THE UPPERHAND. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN KILLED IMMEDIATELY. NO MATTER HOW MUCH HE NO SOLD IT SHANE FUCKING MCMAHON GOT THE UPPER HAND ON HIM. GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL.

 

Shut the hell up. The point is it didn't hurt Kane AT ALL. Shane is going to be demolished in their match, who gives a shit if he got the upper hand on RAW? Wow, great for him. And why do you people keep missing the fact that HE SURPRISED KANE AND ATTACKED HIM FROM BEHIND? That's the ONLY reason he got the upper hand. He's not a wrestler? Uuuhh.. that's exactly why we've been saying it's better to throw him at Kane than anyone else. If the match happens at SS, Kane can look like a monster without hurting anyone of any real importance. Understand?

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Guest The Mighty Damaramu

No wrestlers should be wrestling wrestlers.

Oh he can fight without hurting anyone of importance? See now you're going with the WWE's "even-steven" booking which is why they're in such a mess in the first place! Everyone except the Main Eventers(ie. HHH,Angle, and Lesnar) get to sit around and trade wins and beat downs so that nobody looks better than anyone else and everyone retains there heat. Well guess what!? That kills everyone's heat!

I don't care at this point if Kane goes over RVD! It would give Kane phenomenal heat if he absolutely destroyed everyone's hero! He's one of the few things that the WWE has a chance to do right that may actually draw and they're fucking it up already!

Yeah he attacked him from behind with the chair! But he fucking tackled the guy over the top rope and beat his ass until Vince ran over to make the save. Then Kane ran away! If anythinig when Shane ran at him and dove it should've been like hitting a brick wall!

And if this match does happen at SS I gurantee it'll go for 20 minutes. Kane can't squash him for 20 minutes. Which mean he'll have to sell for Shane. And Shane will spend the whole match doing crazy bumps and stuff that normal wrestlers can't pull off because they have to wrestle 4 days a week all year. But Daddy's Boy can just go home and rest for the next 6 months while making everyone else look bad in that one match!

I don't see how anyone can possibley think this is a good thing!

Now do you understand?

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Guest Lightning Flik
No wrestlers should be wrestling wrestlers.

 

Ok. We agree on that much.

 

Oh he can fight without hurting anyone of importance?

 

Ok. We agree on the sarcastic remark that it's stupid to worry about a single individuals heat.

 

See now you're going with the WWE's "even-steven" booking which is why they're in such a mess in the first place! Everyone except the Main Eventers(ie. HHH,Angle, and Lesnar) get to sit around and trade wins and beat downs so that nobody looks better than anyone else and everyone retains there heat. Well guess what!? That kills everyone's heat!

 

Even-steven booking doesn't kill heat. The thing that's killing everyone's heat is the fact that on RAW HHH has no comparison and on Smackdown they keep writing up horrendous storylines to absolutely kill the heat of the person (or at least they attempt to). Add to that the WWE doesn't believe in wins and losses anymore and you've got a recipe for heat killing. As many marks determine the worth of a wrestler by not only their character but also by their wins and losses. That's what's killing a person's heat.

 

I don't care at this point if Kane goes over RVD! It would give Kane phenomenal heat if he absolutely destroyed everyone's hero! He's one of the few things that the WWE has a chance to do right that may actually draw and they're fucking it up already!

 

I don't really understand what going over RVD would do for giving Kane phenomenal heat. He's not everyone's hero as of right now, and you wanna speak of fucking things up with RVD look back to the Triple Threat match of HHH vs. HBK vs. RVD for the World Championship and you'll find they don't know what the fuck they are doing with RVD.

 

Yeah he attacked him from behind with the chair! But he fucking tackled the guy over the top rope and beat his ass until Vince ran over to make the save.

 

Shane isn't the smallest guy in the world, my friend. He COULD manage to do that. If you are bitching about Shane knocking Kane out of the ring, then also bitch about Angle knocking Big Show out of the ring the once or twice he's done it. Cause I mean, if Shane can't, certainly Angle can't either.

 

As for having his ass beat by Shane: well, geez... Big whoop again. IF I get sneakly hit by a chair, then toppled over and then get beat on, I know I certainly wouldn't be respond as fast as I could because I would be like "huh? WTF?" to what was happening. It was a sneak attack and therefore Kane wasn't prepared nor ready for it.

 

Then Kane ran away! If anythinig when Shane ran at him and dove it should've been like hitting a brick wall!

 

No offense, but it's called regrouping. And if it is a fucking sneak attack you can't properly brace yourself for impact and thusly you WILL move. Even if you are the size of Kane or Big Show.

 

And if this match does happen at SS I gurantee it'll go for 20 minutes. Kane can't squash him for 20 minutes. Which mean he'll have to sell for Shane.

 

So, Kane sells for Shane. Wouldn't Kane have to sell for any sarcrifice that faces him at SummerSlam?

 

And Shane will spend the whole match doing crazy bumps and stuff that normal wrestlers can't pull off because they have to wrestle 4 days a week all year. But Daddy's Boy can just go home and rest for the next 6 months while making everyone else look bad in that one match.

 

Hence why Shane's risking his ass instead of having RVD do it. Shane can TAKE the 30 feet drops since he's got loads of time off. RVD does not, since everyone expects to seem him perform at house shows.

 

I don't see how anyone can possibley think this is a good thing!

Well, I don't really see the point of letting RVD get himself squashed out by Kane either. Sure it might help out Kane, but the same can be said if they let Shane get destroyed to.

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Oh he can fight without hurting anyone of importance? See now you're going with the WWE's "even-steven" booking which is why they're in such a mess in the first place! Everyone except the Main Eventers(ie. HHH,Angle, and Lesnar) get to sit around and trade wins and beat downs so that nobody looks better than anyone else and everyone retains there heat. Well guess what!? That kills everyone's heat!

 

Actually, that's kinda what you guys are saying. Everybody seems to want RVD to fight him and have them make each other both look good. But that wouldn't do a damn thing to help either one of them.

 

I don't care at this point if Kane goes over RVD! It would give Kane phenomenal heat if he absolutely destroyed everyone's hero! He's one of the few things that the WWE has a chance to do right that may actually draw and they're fucking it up already!

 

It also makes RVD look like total shit. Unless you're counting on him getting revenge which is just what you said they shouldn't do....

 

Yeah he attacked him from behind with the chair! But he fucking tackled the guy over the top rope and beat his ass until Vince ran over to make the save. Then Kane ran away! If anythinig when Shane ran at him and dove it should've been like hitting a brick wall!

 

Kane wasn't expecting him to throw himself at him like that. Do you honestly think that would have been better? Now you have two potential matches that can draw instead of just one. Yeah, it sucks that RVD might not have anything planned for SS, but this should be a long term feud, not something over and done with in a few weeks anyway.

 

And if this match does happen at SS I gurantee it'll go for 20 minutes. Kane can't squash him for 20 minutes. Which mean he'll have to sell for Shane.

 

He'll have to sell the same type of offense that he did on RAW. Remember that Shane is still pissed off and Kane doesn't really have a reason to want to beat him. How long was Kane vs Foley from Survivor Series? Wasn't that around 15 minutes? All they have to do is make a longer version of that. And while we're at it, wouldn't it have sucked if they gave us UT vs Kane the month after Bad Blood instead of letting it develop and establishing Kane as a monster first?

 

And Shane will spend the whole match doing crazy bumps and stuff that normal wrestlers can't pull off because they have to wrestle 4 days a week all year. But Daddy's Boy can just go home and rest for the next 6 months while making everyone else look bad in that one match!

 

Or maybe he'll just bump to put Kane over. Who knows.

 

I don't see how anyone can possibley think this is a good thing!

Now do you understand?

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Guest The Mighty Damaramu
No wrestlers should be wrestling wrestlers.

 

Ok. We agree on that much.

 

Exactly....which is why Shane shouldn't be given any chance to look strong.

 

See now you're going with the WWE's "even-steven" booking which is why they're in such a mess in the first place! Everyone except the Main Eventers(ie. HHH,Angle, and Lesnar) get to sit around and trade wins and beat downs so that nobody looks better than anyone else and everyone retains there heat. Well guess what!? That kills everyone's heat!

 

Even-steven booking doesn't kill heat. The thing that's killing everyone's heat is the fact that on RAW HHH has no comparison and on Smackdown they keep writing up horrendous storylines to absolutely kill the heat of the person (or at least they attempt to). Add to that the WWE doesn't believe in wins and losses anymore and you've got a recipe for heat killing. As many marks determine the worth of a wrestler by not only their character but also by their wins and losses. That's what's killing a person's heat.

 

Actually whenever nobody goes over anybody then the fans don't give a shit. When you have everybody on an even playing field(which is what they do with the even-steven booking) then the fans don't give two shits about it.

 

 

I don't care at this point if Kane goes over RVD! It would give Kane phenomenal heat if he absolutely destroyed everyone's hero! He's one of the few things that the WWE has a chance to do right that may actually draw and they're fucking it up already!

 

I don't really understand what going over RVD would do for giving Kane phenomenal heat. He's not everyone's hero as of right now, and you wanna speak of fucking things up with RVD look back to the Triple Threat match of HHH vs. HBK vs. RVD for the World Championship and you'll find they don't know what the fuck they are doing with RVD.

 

Because the fans love RVD and they probably want to see him whip Kane's ass after what Kane did to him. And if Kane stops him dead in his tracks then the fans will step back and think "Whoa this guy is a badass. Look at how pissed RVD was and he just got it handed to him!" I really don't think they'd think any less of RVD if Kane absolutely destroys him. They'll be to busy thinking of what a badass Kane is.

 

Yeah he attacked him from behind with the chair! But he fucking tackled the guy over the top rope and beat his ass until Vince ran over to make the save.

 

Shane isn't the smallest guy in the world, my friend. He COULD manage to do that. If you are bitching about Shane knocking Kane out of the ring, then also bitch about Angle knocking Big Show out of the ring the once or twice he's done it. Cause I mean, if Shane can't, certainly Angle can't either.

 

As for having his ass beat by Shane: well, geez... Big whoop again. IF I get sneakly hit by a chair, then toppled over and then get beat on, I know I certainly wouldn't be respond as fast as I could because I would be like "huh? WTF?" to what was happening. It was a sneak attack and therefore Kane wasn't prepared nor ready for it.

 

Actually it's fine for Kurt Angle b/c the guys a wrestler and a 4 time World Champion. Not the bosses pussy son. And Kane should've been waiting for him the moment the music hit. Then when Shane started to run at him Kane should've just caught him by the throat. He stood there like he was scared shitless when Shane started his charge. And when they got on the outside of the ring he should've tossed Shane off of him. Instead of laying there while Shane pounded on him. And WTF? Regrouping!? Kane's a monster he shouldn't need to regroup. He should just think about killing everybody. You don't need to regroup to do that! He should've sat right up and killed Shane. Not tucked tail and head for the hills.

 

Then Kane ran away! If anythinig when Shane ran at him and dove it should've been like hitting a brick wall!

 

No offense, but it's called regrouping. And if it is a fucking sneak attack you can't properly brace yourself for impact and thusly you WILL move. Even if you are the size of Kane or Big Show.

 

Well this is wrestling. Nobody siad it had to be believable. He should've been waiting for Shane. Or at least tossed him over his head whenever Shane dove at him. And once again he shouldn't have to regroup against Shane f'n McMahon. He should've gone straight for the kill.

 

And if this match does happen at SS I gurantee it'll go for 20 minutes. Kane can't squash him for 20 minutes. Which mean he'll have to sell for Shane.

 

So, Kane sells for Shane. Wouldn't Kane have to sell for any sarcrifice that faces him at SummerSlam?

 

But Shane's not a wrestler! How hard is that to understand!? RVD is a wrestler so it's a little more believable when he hurts Kane. Shane should be treated like the fly he is and get swatted down. Kane should NEVER sell for him nor should ANY wrestler. Hell the only wrestler I've seen no sell anything for Shane was Hurricane when he caught Shane's punch.

 

And Shane will spend the whole match doing crazy bumps and stuff that normal wrestlers can't pull off because they have to wrestle 4 days a week all year. But Daddy's Boy can just go home and rest for the next 6 months while making everyone else look bad in that one match.

 

Hence why Shane's risking his ass instead of having RVD do it. Shane can TAKE the 30 feet drops since he's got loads of time off. RVD does not, since everyone expects to seem him perform at house shows.

 

How is the 30 ft. bump going to get Kane over!? It shouldn't be happening! Kane should wrestle RVD in a hard fought match where in the end Kane proves to be to much of a monster for RVD to stop. Not tossing Shane off of a set onto a pillow.

 

I don't see how anyone can possibley think this is a good thing!

Well, I don't really see the point of letting RVD get himself squashed out by Kane either. Sure it might help out Kane, but the same can be said if they let Shane get destroyed to.

 

RVD shouldn't get squashed out. He should get in some good offense but Kane should prove to be just to much for him to take down. Then he destroys RVD in the closing moments. But if it were Shane wrestling him then he should definetly be squashed out.

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