KingPK 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 Just a little idea I had to keep the NFL talk from going into 7 threads First, check out our Crossface discussing the Eastern divisions. Here is your chance to take us to task over what we said in the article and add your two cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 Boy this Bryan guy sure seems to know what he's talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 The Patriots are going to win the AFC East, the Eagles are going to win the NFC East. The Bills will get a wild card and the rest of the NFC East will be lucky to finish at .500 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 They don't go into depth enough on why they have certain opinions. All they did was repeat shit I heard out of "experts" last year, they have nothing to add. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 Bullshit. I told you why teams couldn't win, and why they could. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 I like those AFC East predictions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 I wish I could have made it to the CF. Anyway, my picks as I see them now: AFC EAST New England Buffalo Miami NY Jets NFC EAST Philly NY Giants Washington Dallas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 Staley's departure is going to make less of an impact then people think. He is a mediocre runner. And he can catch the ball out of the backfield, but they added Jon Ritcie who can catch it and Bryan Westbrook is seeing more reps and he can catch it. And I think if he had his druthers Reid would like Staley to just stay away. He is pissed at Duce at this point. The players want Duce back, but this is pissing off Reid even more because Duce is starting to become a cancer. I think Reid would rather be able to tell his players "Duce is done, let's move on" as opposed to keep having this drag on then bring in a malcontent. That is the biggest thing, even if Duce comes back the Eagles aren't going to give him an extension so he will just become a miserable pain in the ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted August 8, 2003 I think the Cowboys will surprise alot of people, they are at least better than the Redskins. Yes, the Cowboys have issues at QB and RB with the competition for starting spots just like the Redskins but what makes them better is the coaching. Bill Parcells is in town to establish a winning attitude, its his way or the highway. Unlike the last coach, Parcells will not be a puppet for the owner and will not take crap from players with attitudes. Bill Parcells has already hand picked players that he feels could have a breakout season. Players like Antonio Bryant, who is on Parcells good side for having minor surgury on his hand and still went to participate in practice, watchout for the end around play. Roy Williams and Dexter Coakley on the defense side will be big factors in the Parcells system. And then there is Hambrick who is not the perfect RB but in a time position system he does not have to be, all he has to do is not fumble the ball or catch a screen pass. Redskins suck, the owner wishes he was Jerry Jones. Not bad for Around the Horn article but can I ask the Disembodied Voice to mute Bryan for overuse of the ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 I think the Cowboys will surprise alot of people, they are at least better than the Redskins Are you on fucking crack? The Cowboys are horrible, and Bill Parcells has all but admitted that he is using this year to see who needs to be replaced next season. Hear that, he has already packed the season in. I'd say cowboys can attain 5-7 victories. Parcells will get a team of bad players to give great effort, but sorry TALENT wins. Washington's two biggest question marks are QB & D-Line. D-line should still be able to stop the run, but pass rush is a question. As far as QB goes, Ramsey is a hell of a lot better of a prospect than Quincy/Hutch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted August 9, 2003 AFC EAST ------------- New England Patriots Buffalo Bills Miami Dolphins New York Jets NFC EAST ------------- Philly Eagles New York Giants Dallas Cowboys Washington Redskins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Not bad for Around the Horn article but can I ask the Disembodied Voice to mute Bryan for overuse of the ... Woody Paige: "like the disemboweled voice was saying..." Bill Plaschke: "It's disembodied, Woody. Do you know what you just said??" I love that. Had to bring it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 As far as QB goes, Ramsey is a hell of a lot better of a prospect than Quincy/Hutch. Is Ramsey going to start every game or will the Redskins change the QB every game? Better Coaching = Better Team You can have the best WRs in the league but it does not matter because the QB is so inconsistent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 As far as QB goes, Ramsey is a hell of a lot better of a prospect than Quincy/Hutch. Is Ramsey going to start every game or will the Redskins change the QB every game? Better Coaching = Better Team You can have the best WRs in the league but it does not matter because the QB is so inconsistent. Ok are we gonna play this game again? Look, last season QBs were pulled because they were SHIT. Just like the way ANY OTHER COACH goes about it. If any of them would have been worthy of being a starter, they would have stayed in there. As far as coaching goes, yes if we are going to judge every single coach by their FIRST year, then Spurrier is a medicore coach, however it takes more than one year until any type of blame or credit can be put on a coach. Are you telling me Jimmy Johnson should have been canned the his first year because the cowboys went 1-15, and/or that Aikman was not a great QB because his first year in the league he played like absolute shit? If you HONESTLY think the Cowboys are finishing anywhere besides the bottom, then you must be saying they are winning 10 games, which is a joke in itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 "Look, last season QBs were pulled because they were SHIT" *Clears Throat* *Clears Throat Again* YOU SIGNED ROB JOHNSON Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaMarka 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 *Clears Throat* *Clears Throat Again* YOU SIGNED ROB JOHNSON Check and mate. Rob Johnson is terrible, terrible, terrible. Seriously, there must have been someone better than that. I find it shocking that Gruden once thought Rob would be the starter in Tampa. Yikes. Anyways, I actually think the Skins could do ok this year. If Ramsay actually plays decently, they'll probably do better than the Cowboys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Ramsey is the starter even if struggles at first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 They signed Wuerffel and dumped Brad Banks. That should indicate the QB situation in Washington pretty clearly. Ramsey>Rob Johnson>Wawful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Good job with the Crossface, guys - I'm definitely looking forward to this season. Predictions AFC EAST ------------- Miami Buffalo New England New York Jets NFC EAST ------------- Philadelphia New York Giants Washington Dallas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Ramsey>Rob Johnson>Wawful NO. Rob Johnson is better than nobody. Ryan Leaf>Rob Johnson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Bryan Staeball > Rob Johnson Everything you need to know about the NFC East is this. The backup QBs for Philly & New York are better than the starters for Dallas & Washington. Give me Jesse Palmer anyday over the likes of Hutch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 The third stringer in Philly is better than everyone playing QB in Dallas or Washington. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 The third stringer in Philly is better than everyone playing QB in Dallas or Washington. ::refers to pop-culture tie-in:: Tony Danza? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 I'm not saying the Cowboys will go over .500 but they will have a better season than the Redskins, and defeat them when they play. So how many games will Ramsey play this season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted August 9, 2003 Ramsey>Rob Johnson>Wawful NO. Rob Johnson is better than nobody. Ryan Leaf>Rob Johnson Wow.....that's......that's just COLD man. I'm not really sure who will suck more this year. But if Johnson gets any playing time, the suck momentum will swing quickly to the Redskins side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2003 Rob Johnson will be #3 on the depth chart or off the team by the time the season starts. I am not sure what other free agents were available at the QB position this offseason that wouldn't demand #1QB pay. Brad Banks was let go because he sucked in training camp. Barring injury, there should be no reason to Ramsey is not playing the entire season. No point in arguing this point any further, because everyone continues to make arguments from something that was done last year because there was not a #1 Qb here. Ramsey is considered "the man" by the organization. Last year Matthews & Wuerfull were clearly not. Ramsey was obviously rushed into his role last year because Matthews/Wuerful sucked. Ramsey did not know the offense very well and the offensive line was horrendous and offered no protection. I will conceed Spurrier's one big mistake in the QB carousel last year was pulling Ramsey after he had 2 bad games. He should have just left him in the rest of the season and let the season ride out. However criticism of pulling Matthews/Wuerfeull is just pure Chris Berman nonsense. It's not like I don't realize that if Rob Johnson has to play then the season is over. Of course I know this. Rob Johnson sucks, Wuerfull knows the offense but he is a noodle-arm. I honestly believe though that Ramsey has what it takes to be a franchise QB, I don't expect people to take my word for it, nor do I really care. If he shows it on the field then that will be the proving ground, and if I am wrong, well serve up some nice hot steamy crow and I shall eat it all and make the plate look spotless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2003 How will Trung Candidate fit into the Fun & Gun and will Kenny Watson be getting more playing time as the all purpose RB in the backfield? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MD2020 Report post Posted August 10, 2003 The third stringer in Philly is better than everyone playing QB in Dallas or Washington. He also bangs a hotter girl than any of those guys are currently banging. (She's probably also the reason Pat Burrell sucks so much this year). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2003 How will Trung Candidate fit into the Fun & Gun and will Kenny Watson be getting more playing time as the all purpose RB in the backfield? Trung will fit in fine, depending on how the O-Line helps him. He is a better recieving RB than Stephen Davis and that is what Spurrier wanted. Trung brings speed to an already superfast offense. We also have Betts/Cartwright in the backfield to get the 3rd&1 yards. It sucked that the Skins had to let Davis go, but wasn't as much of a Spurrier decision that everyone wants to make it seem. He would have accounted for approx 10 million against this years salary cap, and that was unacceptable. He also made it clear he wasn't gonna take a pay cut. Skins would have never been able to sign Coles/Morton/Thomas/Hall and work on an extension for Champ if Davis 10 million was looming over their heads this season. It was a tough player to drop, but the four we added, plus being able to resign Champ(and Lavar eventually) to a long term contract makes it a good decision in the long run. Plus the Skins would have been holding down cap hell for a player that has approx 2 years left in him barring injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dangerous A 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2003 Predictions AFC East 1. Miami 2. New England 3. Buffalo 4. NY Jets NFC East 1. NY Giants 2. Philadelphia 3. Washington 4. Dallas While Wash. made a HUGE mistake in signing Rob Johnson, the jury is out on Pat Ramsey and Spurrier as a coach. If they at least show some promise this year, then a head or two may roll because Snyder don't play that shit. Oh and for any of you Cowboys fans, while our QB's do suck dog's cocks, your QB's suck dead dog's cock's. Ramsey > Hutchinson/Carter combined Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
