Bored 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2003 Actually...Isn't SEATTLE Oakland's main competition? Seattle wasn't the team that had eliminated the A's two straight years in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted August 18, 2003 Then he went from "party like rock stars, bang like porn stars" look That's what I want representing my team! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2003 Who cares if he looks better or if you like the look more? If the real Jason Giambi changed himself to become a Yankee, then he is a sell out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2003 Then he went from "party like rock stars, bang like porn stars" look That's what I want representing my team! Those were Giambi's own words while playing with the A's. Sell out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted August 18, 2003 Cutting your hair doesn't mean he changed... He still plays music in the clubhouse and parties like he used too...he just does it with clean face and looks better anyways. Which means MORE PUSSY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted August 18, 2003 WHO CARES! It's fucking Facial Hair! it didn't effect him! Look at this way... Look at when Junior came to Cincy...Larkin then was allowed to have a Goatee (Scott also banned facial hair)...what happened to him? He got injured left and right. My point Facial Hair=Injuries. '72 - '74...the Oakland A's Mustache Gang win three straight World Series...facial hair equals championships! 1996, 1998-99-00 facial hairless Yankees (And that's just the last decade.) And another argument against facial hair: It encourages certain people to bleach blond their facial hair and cut it to look like chains. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted August 18, 2003 Mike Piazza. Need I say more? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2003 But in Philly's defense, I present Pat Burrell. Spent half the season hitting .200, and the fans cheered the heck out of him, and now he's started to hit again. Burrell got cheered a lot during his slump? Obviously you know better, but I heard he was booed a lot, but was supported by Bowa a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2003 There was a period where he was booed. Then the fans started to realize something was really wrong instead of just a bad slump and started to cheer him again. For anything. It was a little ridiculous some of the games I went to he would get standing ovations for RBI doubles, then get another standing O when he came onto the field in the next half of the inning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MD2020 Report post Posted August 18, 2003 I don't see them complaining... Think back to Don Mattingly, who had a mustache for years and Steinbrenner still made him shave it off. You mean to tell me you can't still look professional with a mustache? Mattingly, I told you to trim those sideburns!! That's it; you're off the team! Sorry. Couldn't resist. And back to the original post. Screw these announcers. So you get booed a bit. It's not the end of the world. Be a man and play the game. That was one of Philly's biggest complaints of Rolen: he was too thin-skinned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2003 Choken the ban was lifted in cincy when Greg Vaughn brought his facial hair with him from San Diego. Then in 1999 it seemed like everyone including: casey, vaughn, larkin, boone,hammonds, tucker, larue, brian johnson, villone and harnisch all grew out facial hair. It was like they escaped from prison and were free men and went on to win 96 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2003 There was a period where he was booed. Then the fans started to realize something was really wrong instead of just a bad slump and started to cheer him again. For anything. It was a little ridiculous some of the games I went to he would get standing ovations for RBI doubles, then get another standing O when he came onto the field in the next half of the inning. Cool, that's pretty good loyalty then. I'm a Cards fan, but I really wouldn't have expected any less from Philly fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2003 I agree with the clean cut look the Yankees have. It establishes a professional approach to the game, and rules players have to follow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2003 There was a period where he was booed. Then the fans started to realize something was really wrong instead of just a bad slump and started to cheer him again. For anything. It was a little ridiculous some of the games I went to he would get standing ovations for RBI doubles, then get another standing O when he came onto the field in the next half of the inning. Cool, that's pretty good loyalty then. I'm a Cards fan, but I really wouldn't have expected any less from Philly fans. I remember watching that game on tv. It was amazing the amount of support they were giving him. And now, he's starting to hit again. I think alot of it was that the Phillie fans could see that Burrell was putting 100% out, and they respect that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted August 18, 2003 I agree with the clean cut look the Yankees have. It establishes a professional approach to the game, and rules players have to follow. Best way to put it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2003 I read an old Details magazine just a few weeks ago (don't ask me which one, it was in a pile at my girlfriends house) and in it there was an article about Giambi from back when he was on the A's. Most of the article was talking about how great it is in Oakland, and how he's able to be the person that he wants to be there, and how happy he is being that way - he even mentions the Yankees as a team that he's looking forward to beating, showing that you can win and still have a "fun" mentality to the game. You see him now looking 100% different, and have to wonder how much he really felt that way then, how happy he is now, or if the whole thing is just about the money. Fuck Giambi. He's a sell-out. It's one thing to just leave for money, it's another to change your look, and your view on the game, for money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2003 Philly fans are merciless bordering on classless at times, the Michael Irvin incident leading the way. I understand booing a guy, but hell, the man could have been paralyzed for life and they STILL cheered. As for Giambi, he went to NY because they gave him the best chance of winning a championahip, the money was secondary. Steinbrenner is rather anal-retentive but because he is following grooming rules set down by the team doesn;t make him a sellout. Turn the page, Oakland fans, he's gone, focus on the team you have. Having a fucking mustache and long hair or not don;t affect your ability to play, unless you're goddamn Sampson. Ye gods, I can understand disliking a team, but this shit is fucking ridiculous/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted August 18, 2003 Having a fucking mustache and long hair or not don;t affect your ability to play, unless you're goddamn Sampson. But it means that you're nothing more than a good ol rowdy fun loving guy! Caring about your appearance quite obviously means you're some snooty executive who sucks the fun out of a room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest undisputedjericho Report post Posted August 21, 2003 Let's not forget he is a lifelong Yankees fan to boot. Call Giambi a sell out all you want for leaving Oakland, though you knew it was coming (Like with Tejada this year, it is inevitable he is leaving, and possibly Chavez after that) But don't call him a sell out for shaving the beard and getting a haircut. It's a Yankee rule that you have to be clean cut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 Let's not forget he is a lifelong Yankees fan to boot. Doesn't every free agent or rookie say that when they sign with a team? I don't know about Giambi. It's just i've heard that line so many time i always wonder if it's true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 Fuck Giambi. He's a sell-out. It's one thing to just leave for money, it's another to change your look, and your view on the game, for money. What kind of an idiot would he have to be NOT to take the money? Is Alex Rodriguez a sellout, too? Basically, if someone offered me $119 million over seven years, with the conditions being that I have to shave, cut my hair, stuff carrots in my ears, and stand on my head thrice per day, my answer would be, "Where do I sign?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest undisputedjericho Report post Posted August 21, 2003 Yes, and even though he is too young to have seen him, Mickey Mantle is his hero, like his dad. His number always adds up to 7, if you've noticed (16 in Oakland, because Scott Brosius wore 7 at the time, and 25 in New York, since both 7 and 16 are retired) You can make more of a case against A-Rod, since he took the absolute top dollar he could and went to an awful team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 Of course the athletes should get what they can. I have no problem with free agency in general. I can't stand players that hold out while still under contract though. You should go out and do your job. Players that demand trades are the same way. You signed the contract, you should now live with it. Leave when its up. Baseball needs a cap badly, and I blame the players for that, but not individually. If the Rangers want to spend all their money on one player instead of a pitching staff, then that's their problem when they spend the next 5 years in the basement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobbyWhioux Report post Posted August 21, 2003 Actually...Isn't SEATTLE Oakland's main competition? Not really. No real sense of "rivalry." Partly because they both make the playoffs pretty much every year (thanks to the wildcard) so it doesn't really feel like they're in 'competition', partly because Seattle's just not as easily hateable like the Yankees are. Seattle hasn't ever eliminated the A's from the postseason. The Yankees have. (And plus, there's a tradition of the Yankees "Stealing" the A's greats. It goes back way past Giambit... Hunter, Jackson, Henderson, hell, even Canseco, albeit indirectly, and after he had long ceased to be "great" but still. None of them, however, dissed Oakland the city and people, not the franchise, on the Letterman show [or anything comparable]. Like Giambi did.) Giambi pulled off a very well-executed heel turn. Defect to a rival team. Badmouth the fans. "Sell Out" in terms of his appearance and by doing shitty commercials (why does he need to hawk deoderant if Steiney's paying him 120 million? What a whore...) ...And when he comes back through town, he jobs out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest undisputedjericho Report post Posted August 22, 2003 You do realize that just about every major athlete making stacks of cash are in TV ads, right? It's not like Giambi is a pioneer in that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BobbyWhioux Report post Posted August 22, 2003 You do realize that just about every major athlete making stacks of cash are in TV ads, right? It's not like Giambi is a pioneer in that. Yes. And they're all whores. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted August 22, 2003 How are you a whore for signing a big contract with a winning team and for endorsing a product that's perfectly credible? In Giambi's case, it's not like he signed with the Brewers and is endorsing Extenz with Ron Jeremy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted August 22, 2003 I'd also like to add, that after I just looked through my 2001 play off program which had Giambi as a A, Jason looks about ten years younger with his new look. tradition of the Yankees "Stealing" the A's greats. (....) hell, even Canseco, albeit indirectly, and after he had long ceased to be "great" but still Funny, I thought we were trying to keep him away from the Sox. Fucking with Oakland wasn't exactly high on the list of probable reasons for his signing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2003 Bobby, puh-leeze. If someone offered you a boatload of money to endorse a product that you even marginally believed in, like deodorant, you would take the money too. I love these sports fans that think doing endorsements is selling out. The companies want someone with image recognition and credibility (although its WAY more the former than the latter), to sell their product, and the athletes are setting up for their retirements and ensuring a good life for their families. Its doing the best with what you have. All things considered, Michael Jordan is the ultimate sellout because of what he did for Nike and Gatorade, and to a much lesser extent, McDonalds, according to your feelings on the matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted August 22, 2003 It's only "selling out" if you, as the pitchman, absolutely hate the product but still accept money to endorse it. And even in that case, it's extreme. For example, back in the 1950s and 60s, Frank Gifford (the NFL star) endorsed Grecian Hair Formula. Years later, Gifford admitted that he didn't use Grecian at all despite being their pitchman, and in fact he'd heard from people who did use it that it was too goopy. (Not his exact words, but work with me.) Is that selling out? No. But if, say, Gifford's father had worked for Grecian for a number of years and was then coldly laid off, or if the Grecian inventor had smacked Gifford's mother or something, then THAT would be selling out. Unless you have some deep-seeded objection to a product, there ain't nothing wrong with making your money off of them. So in the case of Jason Giambi, he'd only be a "sell-out" if, say, his brother died of Right Guard inhalation or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
