nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 'Phish' Bassist Arrested; Allegedly Found In Secluded Area With 9-Year-Old NEW YORK -- A Phish is on the hook for endangering the welfare of a minor after he allegedly tried to take pictures of a young girl inside a deserted boathouse, according to a report. Mike Gordon, 38, was arrested after being found late at night in a secluded area with a 9-year-old girl. The girl's parents raised an alarm when she disappeared from a backstage area at Jones Beach Theater, WNBC-TV reported. But following private conversations between the band's manager and the child's parents, there's a question about whether the band's bassist will avoid facing that charge. New York State Park Police say Gordon showed a different side after a concert last week by The Dead. Investigators say Gordon -- who calls himself "Cactus" -- was an invited guest backstage at Jones Beach. He was not invited, they say, to take a 9-year-old girl to an isolated location behind the theater. "The area is actually like a work area for state employees who operate boats out of that area," said Maj. Richard O'Donnell, of the New York State Park Police. "It's a darkened area, not intended for public access." O'Donnell, who is the region's commanding officer, would not discuss what the bass player told officers when he was found with the child on a dock. But a police report obtained by WNBC-TV reveals "The defendant stated he wanted to take 'art photos' of the victim." Police confirm that Gordon has never been convicted of any crime. Law enforcement sources said that after the band member was arrested, he told officers, "I may have shown bad judgment, but I am not a pedophile." The Law enforcement sources identify the girl's father as a leader of the Hell's Angels Motorcycle Club, whom they say had also been invited backstage to watch The Dead concert. Gordon was held for police by theater security "and the victim's father's associates -- which the police report decribes as other Hell's Angels members. When responding to a request for an interview, Phish's manager e-mailed a joint statement from Gordon and the child's parents that reads: "It is now clear to all involved that this was an unfortunate misunderstanding, and we look forward to putting this matter behind us." Later, in a conference call, the manager said Gordon's trying to "make amends" with the family. The girl's father added that "muckraking journalists should put the story to rest." Both declined to discuss whether the musician is paying compensation. When asked by WNBC-TV if there was any reasonable explanation for Gordon to have been with the girl at 1:00 AM in a secluded boat house, Maj. O'Donnell of the State Park Police said "I have no explanation for it." The commander says he "absolutely" stands by the police investigation and has referred the bass player's boathouse rendezvous case to the Nassau County district attorney for prosecution. The DA's office says the evidence is being evaluated. Regardless of whether Gordon has to face a judge next month, law-enforcement sources say unofficial justice was already delivered. The Hell's Angels, who detained Gordon for police, were not, the sources say, gentle with sensitive areas of the rock star's body. There's another article on MTV.com that's less inflammatory, but points out that Gordon was intimidated and punched by the dad's biker buddies. Regardless of his intentions, it wasn't the brightest move in the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steviekick 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Disgusting. I've always hated Phish and now I have a good reason to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrainYou42 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Goddamn Hippies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Maybe I'm turning soft, but if he was just taking pics of this girl, with her clothes on I am assuming, then is there anything illegal with that? Strange and Creppy -- yes. Besides, the girl's dad is in the Hell's Angles -- I think the police should let this bassist go into the waiting arms of this biker gang. That'll be punishment enough... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Maybe I'm turning soft, but if he was just taking pics of this girl, with her clothes on I am assuming, then is there anything illegal with that? Strange and Creppy -- yes. Besides, the girl's dad is in the Hell's Angles -- I think the police should let this bassist go into the waiting arms of this biker gang. That'll be punishment enough... Yeah..you're right. You are going soft. The old KK would have made some sort of innappropiate yet funny joke about the situation. How the mighty have fallen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Maybe I'm turning soft, but if he was just taking pics of this girl, with her clothes on I am assuming, then is there anything illegal with that? Strange and Creppy -- yes. Besides, the girl's dad is in the Hell's Angles -- I think the police should let this bassist go into the waiting arms of this biker gang. That'll be punishment enough... Nothing illegal with taking clothed pictures of kids, but tresspassing into a private, secluded area at 1:00 in the morning with a child, and not notifying said child's parents of your intentions, could be considered illegal. (tresspassing, kidnapping, endangerment) And the more I read about this case, the more damage it appears that the Angels got to inflict on Gordon. The Rolling Stone blurb mentioned that they were aiming their attacks on the most sensitive part of his anatomy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Maybe I'm turning soft, but if he was just taking pics of this girl, with her clothes on I am assuming, then is there anything illegal with that? Strange and Creppy -- yes. Besides, the girl's dad is in the Hell's Angles -- I think the police should let this bassist go into the waiting arms of this biker gang. That'll be punishment enough... Nothing illegal with taking clothed pictures of kids, but tresspassing into a private, secluded area at 1:00 in the morning with a child, and not notifying said child's parents of your intentions, could be considered illegal. (tresspassing, kidnapping, endangerment) And the more I read about this case, the more damage it appears that the Angels got to inflict on Gordon. The Rolling Stone blurb mentioned that they were aiming their attacks on the most sensitive part of his anatomy. OK, the old not-with-the-dad's-permission line. May this pseudo-hippie burn in hell. Or do a duet with Michael Jackson. Oh, wait a minute, he took pictures of a prepubescent girl, not boy. Nevermind... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Maybe I'm turning soft, but if he was just taking pics of this girl, with her clothes on I am assuming, then is there anything illegal with that? Strange and Creppy -- yes. Besides, the girl's dad is in the Hell's Angles -- I think the police should let this bassist go into the waiting arms of this biker gang. That'll be punishment enough... Nothing illegal with taking clothed pictures of kids, but tresspassing into a private, secluded area at 1:00 in the morning with a child, and not notifying said child's parents of your intentions, could be considered illegal. (tresspassing, kidnapping, endangerment) And the more I read about this case, the more damage it appears that the Angels got to inflict on Gordon. The Rolling Stone blurb mentioned that they were aiming their attacks on the most sensitive part of his anatomy. OK, the old not-with-the-dad's-permission line. May this pseudo-hippie burn in hell. Or do a duet with Michael Jackson. Oh, wait a minute, he took pictures of a prepubescent girl, not boy. Nevermind... See...thats what I'm talking about! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Until there's info to show otherwise this is a case of meaning well, but making a bad decision...oh and bad parents. This is just another case of people hearing "man with young child" and screaming pedophile despite having nothing to base it on at that point. See for example Micheal Jackson. 9 year old daughter of a Hell's Angels member backstage at a concert known for drug use after midnight who's clearly not being watched by her parents. I'm the only one that see's a problem here. Why did the article keep referring to "The Dead concert". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 If I was a pedophile, the daughter of a Hell's Angel would not top my list of potential victims. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted August 20, 2003 If I was a pedophile, the daughter of a Hell's Angel would not top my list of potential victims. I'd hope not. There's prey that's just as easy to get that doesn't come with the Hell's Angels attached to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 I hope this isn't as bad as it sounds, I love Phish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Random Hero Report post Posted August 21, 2003 ... I love Phish. You don't say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spicy McHaggis 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 I hope this isn't as bad as it sounds, I love Phish. Please tell me you only love 18-and-older Phish... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLAGIARISM! 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 Well, of all the people I'd pick to be the next in a case like this, the phish bassist wasn't too high. It's always the quiet ones... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boner Kawanger 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 "Why did the article keep referring to "The Dead concert"." Because he was at a Dead concert when it happened. The Dead being the new Grateful Dead, sans Jerry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2003 Well, of all the people I'd pick to be the next in a case like this, the phish bassist wasn't too high. It's always the quiet ones... Actually, I think Mike looks a lot like someone that would be in a cheesy, 70's educational film about molesters. He just has that social-outcast type of vibe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mesepher Report post Posted August 22, 2003 this is from my friend, worth a read. I have a few thoughts. First of all...I'm not sure what "boathouse" they are talking about backstage at Jones Beach. There is nothing secluded back there...nor a "boathouse." It's amazing how many people automatically believe what they are told by the media, the government or by business...no wonder we are in the state we are in. I mean we still have a lot of folks believing things are going well. The article asks why Mike Gordon was taking pictures of a young girl at such a late hour. My question is why the hell did the parents have that young girl out at that hour...much less at a rock concert? Especially as it seems the parents were drugged up anyway (no mention of that in the article of course). No wonder they lost their child. I guess they didn't notice her on the segway. I am going to piss a lot of people off by saying this...but it bothers me when people bring infants and young children to shows. Their hearing, for one, is still developing...as are their lungs. Blaring noises and a constant blend of cigarette and tobacco (and who knows what else) smoke to the developing lungs of a child are both bad things. Let's not even mention things they can see at concerts in the audience...and even more so backstage. Talk about perverted. Mostly it looks like these kids are standing around disinterested anyway. Why should their parents expose them to those elements? Here's an idea...hire a baby sitter. My second thought is if the parents released a joint statement with Gordon exclaiming it was a mere mixup...and if the father blamed the reporters...how can anyone take any of this seriously? The guy is an artist (not the best in many peoples' opinions)...and he was taking a picture of a little girl on a segway. What's sad isn't that Gordon was taking the pictures...it's that we live in a day and age where an adult taking pictures of a child is somehow perverted. Have painters not painted pictures of children alone? The article says he "lured" her. It's a trumped up word...lured. She probably drove the thing into another room and he followed her as he took pictures. She wasn't naked...wasn't performing any lude acts...she was riding something around. Did anyone ever think that Gordon's need to do this said something GOOD about him...in that he gets joy from watching and photographing children. And Bill T...while I usually agree with you...to ask why they beat him if he wasn't guilty would be to ignore centuries of injustice to people around the world. Were black protesters who marched in the South and beaten by police doing anything wrong? Just because someone is beaten doesn't mean they are guilty...in fact the contrary...and NO I am not comparing this to the civil rights movement so hold your flames. I would like to ask this question...what is perverted about a man taking pictures of a little girl? I see worse in magazines every day. I say what is perverted is the fact that we live in a world where a man taking pictures of a little girl is automatically considered something sexual...THAT is perverted. Perhaps we should all step back and examine the root of our outrage. For often it is those who protest too much... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Deebo Report post Posted August 26, 2003 Oh cmon, do you realize how stupid that sounds? We're crazy for interpreting an adult man taking pictures of a young girl as sexual? I don't know about you, but I don't know about any men who take pictures of little girls just for fun, or for as every pedophile who gets caught seems to like to say today..."Art". What does it matter if she was naked or not? I mean, who knows what would have gone on if nobody went in there and caught him? And don't bring the parents into this.. did they make a mistake for leaving the daughter off on her own like that, of course, but that doesn't make it ok for the guy to do whatever he did, which could end up being nothing. I'm not saying he's guilty, but it's easy to see that he was probably do something he shouldnt have been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted August 26, 2003 I hope this isn't as bad as it sounds, I love Phish. Please tell me you only love 18-and-older Phish... That makes no sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
