Will their ever be a seonc opromotion again

[Guest Tuxedo Dragon]

So do you guys think the wwf will ever have a serious compitor again. I for one hope so. Maybe if wrestling goes through another boom period someone one will invest in a new fed and give it a tv deal.

 

Do you guys think WWA, XWF, or Jerry Jerrat's start up has  a chance?

 

I like the wwa so far

 

Anyway what do you guys think.

[Guest JHawk]

The WWA can't afford to lock in their talent (ie Eddy--their Cruiserweight Champion--shows up on Raw).

 

I don't see anybody paying $9.95 every week to see Jeff Jarrett headline.

 

The XWF didn't close down?

[Guest RetroRob215]

I copied this off there official site, it may answer your question.

 

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

In response to the many questions we receive on a daily basis, here is the XWF's FAQ.

1.  Is the XWF on television?

 

The XWF is currently working with Clear Channel Entertainment to secure Worldwide Television Distribution. As soon as a deal is signed, we will release the information on this website.

 

2.  When can we hope to see the XWF on TV?

 

The XWF is hopeful to premier its television product in the 2002 Fall Season.

 

3.  Why doesn’t the XWF have live events in major Cities?

 

As many fans know, television drives the live events. The XWF has recently experimented with several tours and hope to continue on a limited basis. Once our television is running, expect a full schedule of live events.  In addition to major Cities, we will also continue to run events in areas that were once considered wrestling hotbeds, but have been neglected in recent years.

 

4.  Will the XWF ever tour Canada/Australia/Europe?

 

The XWF is currently negotiating with several promoters overseas regarding running tours. Canada and Overseas markets are definitely high on the XWF’s list of priorities and we look forward to announcing tours as soon as they are secured.

 

5.  Will the XWF broadcast its shows in other countries?

 

The XWF had a very successful NATPE in January and are negotiating for our television in over 20 Countries. We hope to launch internationally at the same time as in the U.S.

 

6.  Why don’t you put your shows on Pay-Per-View?

 

The XWF’s philosophy is that storylines and angles drive Pay-Per-View buys. Until we are on television and are able to tell stories and introduce characters, we don’t feel that Pay-Per-View is a viable option.

 

7.  What makes the XWF different?

 

The XWF wants to bring “Pro Wrestling” back as an alternative to “Sports Entertainment”. In combining a fan and family friendly atmosphere and providing a combination of Wrestling Legends, today’s top available Superstars, and a variety of the best young talent in the world, the XWF wants to promote a product that the whole family can watch and enjoy.

 

8.  Why do you allow wrestlers you have used on TV to work for other promotions?

 

The XWF was created by wrestlers and thus want to give the talent every opportunity to make a living. As long as our talent does not appear on a National Television competitor, the XWF encourages them to work as much as possible.

 

9.  I am looking for employment as a wrestler/writer/manager/valet/commentator how can I apply?

 

There is a P.O. address linked on the site. The XWF encourages all potential talent to send in their information and tapes.

 

   10.  Why don’t you sign my (favorite wrestler’s name here)?

 

The XWF is always looking for additional talent to add to our roster. If you have a favorite wrestler, we encourage you to let us know via our e-mail address available on our website’s homepage.

 

11.  Do you charge extra for the Meet & Greets at your shows?

 

In keeping with our “fan friendly” motto, the arranged Meet & Greets before, during, and after the shows are free of charge.

 

12.  Do you have merchandise available for sale?

 

Merchandise is available on this website and at our events. We encourage fans to check back periodically for additional merchandise offered.

[Guest TheDames7]

The only way that a second promotion will work is if someone with a boatload of money, like Rupurt Murdoch, or Bill Gates or some rich mogul with an interest in wrestling, can get a promotion, but some money in it, and get a national tv deal.  

 

They'd be able to have the money to sign guys and keep them locked into contracts.  Thats the only way.  

 

Dames - Future Promoter

[Guest]

I don't really agree with a boatload of money like bill gates.  I think with creativity, good "raw" talent, a few known people left over and an open market like ecw in philly, a few years of hard work and building a loyal fanbase can make a second promotion.  That shit doesn;t happen over night, your looking at minimun a 5 year window.  It would also have to be done on the east coast cause the big cities are built high and not far meaning that los angelas for example is realy realy really spread out, but philly is jammed together.  With more people in your markey for a small indy, like 50 miles radius, that maes for more attendance and less red ink for the first few years.  Most promoters think they throw 2 or 3 shows and boom they are in, example mecw, I went to that show and it was good, but nothing ecw wasn;t doing in like 94.  I doubt it will ever ever happen again because of all those factors weighing in, unless someone has the balls to do it in ny, nice market I think.

[Guest]

also, no ecw ripoff's like xpw or mecw or basically most of the newer indys in the us

[Guest Jay]

The XWF stands the best chance out of any upstart feds to get a cable TV deal.  If they can ink a deal with a Turner network, they will have access all of the guys currently under AOL/Time Warner contract, guys like, GOLDBERG, for example.  Say what you will about the guy, I'm not a fan, but he will put asses in seats for this fed.  The WWA had a great chance, before they went for broke on their Feb. PPV.  They tried to do a live show, and the camera angles were off, something that could have been fixed in post-production.  This was very evident in the 6-Way match.  They went for a live show, while booking a big name like Savage, who they didn't even have under contract.  They can't afford to screw up like this again.  They must have their major guys under contract.  They have a lot of ground to make up.  I hope they can do it.

[Guest TheDames7]

Personally, I dont think the WWA had a chance.  PPV only?  You get a show what...once every 2 months with talent that people aren't really dying to see.  Man, the clock is just ticking on WWA in my eyes.

 

Dames - Ever the Optimist

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

I don't see a promotion competing with the WWF for a long time yet. The monopoly is just too strong and it will only get stronger.

[Guest swan]

Personally, I dont think the WWA had a chance.  PPV only?  You get a show what...once every 2 months with talent that people aren't really dying to see.  Man, the clock is just ticking on WWA in my eyes.

 

Dames - Ever the Optimist

WWA does very good bussiness overseas.

[Guest TheDames7]

Personally, I dont think the WWA had a chance.  PPV only?  You get a show what...once every 2 months with talent that people aren't really dying to see.  Man, the clock is just ticking on WWA in my eyes.

 

Dames - Ever the Optimist

WWA does very good bussiness overseas.

Lets face it, overseas business means JACK to fans in the states.  If they aren't "over" here, they aren't going to do well, as jingoistic as that may sound, its true.  At least overseas they have live events that you can go to..here we have crappy ppv's only.  The casual fan isn't going to spend 20 bucks to watch The Cat or Rick Steiner when they had them for free for years and didn't care then.  

 

Dames - Watched it for free

[Guest swan]

This is what I would do to start my own promotion. First off I wouldn’t start from scratch. I’d combine 5 or 6 of the more established indie feds in the US.

Some ideas:

CZW-They have good TV clearance, and have had a working agreement w/ Big Japan in the past. They would have the Northeast region.

UPW or APW- West region, have top indie talent

WLW-Southwest, Harley Race is in charge and has a working agreement with Zero One. TV clearance in St. Louis area.

WCPW- Chicago, great training school and a 15 + years history. TV clearance in Chicago.

One of the Memphis indies for Mid-south and maybe somebody from the Florida area like IPW.

 

After I get these folks together then I’d work on an agreement with a Japan based promotion. Zero One, Noah, All-Japan, it doesn’t matter. As long as they are financial secure it’ll work. Next I’d work on an agreement w/ a Puerto Rico based fed, probably WWC since they have the Colans.

 

All the US feds would work under one name like the NWA once did but keep their personal identity and titles. The foreign feds would still work as is but talent would be traded and titles defended on each others soil. The federation champs and top talent would travel between all regions.

 

Each region would have its own show on top of a national show. Maybe a 2 hour show on Fox sports, ESPN 2, or FX. I hear Turner wants wrestling back too. Syndication could be another option too. Monthly PPV could be a huge super show with talent from all regions.

 

I know this is far fetched but is one way a promoter could get something big going a lot easier. It is also like the old NWA territory days that I miss so much.

[Guest swan]

Lets face it, overseas business means JACK to fans in the states.  If they aren't "over" here, they aren't going to do well, as jingoistic as that may sound, its true.  At least overseas they have live events that you can go to..here we have crappy ppv's only.  The casual fan isn't going to spend 20 bucks to watch The Cat or Rick Steiner when they had them for free for years and didn't care then.  

 

Dames - Watched it for free

My point is they do well with live events and PPV's overseas. Until a TV deal in the US opens up, it might be enough to keep them alive. The have a PPV deal already so they must have some industry contacts of some kind.

[Guest razazteca]

Swan I like your idea maybe it can be combined with the Clash of Champions concept as the 1st network show!!!!

 

I wish the NWA would get back on cable!!

[Guest]

I think that if a major star in the WWF was to get sick of how things are going backstage and wanted out, would start a small promotion with a quality product they could build up.

 

For example is Steve Austin was to leave the WWF(I know not likely), and start running shows in 500-1,000 seat arenas you know he would fill them up and if the product was good they could build on that and gain a fan base for more than the name recognition of the owner. Get a TV deal etc...

 

I think that is a feasable way of building the promotion #2 that has to eventually materialize some way.. I hope.

[Guest]

It will take someone with enough money that would be able to survive losses for a few years. If you sign big name talent, there is no way you will be able to turn a profit right away.

[Guest treble charged]

Maybe if the WWA didn't waste all their money on that huge video display (even more stupid considering no one had any videos) they could afford to keep their talent.

[Guest Tony149]

To compete against the WWF...whoever is running the fed will need to build his own talent, sign one or two "big names" (If any are out there) to build the company around, and run in smaller arenas. They also need somebody with money backing them up.

 

 

Speaking of the Jarretts promotion. I read somewhere, can't remember where, but they got it from Meltzer's or Keller's newsletter...that the Jarretts will run their PPV show under the NWA banner. Apparently they already agreed to terms with the NWA to use some of their talent and the World Title. I have no idea if that's true.

[Guest J*ingus]

To quote a better writer than myself, "So have I heard, and do in part believe it."  After all, NWA vice president Bill Behrens was Jarrett's TV guy and syndicater in the latter days of USWA.  

 

Of course, the NWA is probably going to get their world heavyweight & tag championships off Dan Severn and "Disturbing Behavior" Tim Renesto & Jeff Daniels first, as I don't see any of those guys main-eventing national PPVs (sorry Jeff & Tim, I still love your promos, but I can't envision them on Big Time TV).  

 

So watch the championships carefully in the near future.  If some big name stars or Memphis alumni win the belts in the near future (coughJarrettChristophercough), I'd take that as a sign.

[Guest DARRYLXWF]

I was reading Keith's Jim Cornette shoot, and Jim mentioned that (before WCW closed) he would let WCW die and then try and revive it in 5-10 years from now.

 

I'm assuming that the name 'WCW' can be brought back if one is to go back to Atlanta.

 

Is cornette on to something?

[Guest muzanisa]

If the split dies like Invasion, the Austin heel turn, The NWO, Jericho title reign,Angle title reign, HHH return and all the other stuff that's tanked; some with help from within the company then I can see the WWF starting to get in serious trouble.

Cutting people's downsides is a stupid move as is signing every bit of talent that could possibly be used by another company.

The WWF is still incredibly popular and profitable but if they don't pull their heads out of their arses soon I can see them going under in a few years

They've inherited all the problems of WCW (head guys protecting their spots), and seem determined to follow the career suicide of the AWA (Shane and Stephanie always going over the talent, Shane and Steph's friends getting unwarrented pushes).

The last star they created was Kurt Angle and it could be argued that he is being held back, and if they screw up Brock Lesnar it will have been at the expense of the Hardys, Spike and the Hurricane.

[Guest Tuxedo Dragon]

I also heard a rumor that the jerrat promotion would not only use the nwa name and title but be able to share wrestlers with the wwa (via some type of deal). I thats  true than that would be a very smart thing to do. The upstarts should help each other out till they gain enough leverage to  stay in bussiness and compete with the wwf. Hopefully something will materilize so we have an alternitive to thee wwf. I miss the monday night wars.

[Guest Vyce]

I also heard a rumor that the jerrat promotion would not only use the nwa name and title but be able to share wrestlers with the wwa (via some type of deal). I thats  true than that would be a very smart thing to do.

 

I don't think any of us could really predict if Jarrett's promotion will succeed or not (although we could always be pragmatic and say that it won't), but I think he may be onto something by using the NWA name and talent.  If he were able to work out some sort of deal where he'd be able to use the talent from the various NWA feds around the country, he'd have a pretty decent wealth of talent at his disposal.  Hell, I'll admit that if he were to stack his little PPVs with the talent from NWA Wildside alone, I'd be willing to shell out the 10 bucks.

[Guest]

Okay, I live in my little isolated world and know very little outside of the big three. Is this NWA everyone is referring to the same NWA that was big in the 80s? The one that Shane Douglas dropped the title from?

[Guest swan]

Okay, I live in my little isolated world and know very little outside of the big three. Is this NWA everyone is referring to the same NWA that was big in the 80s? The one that Shane Douglas dropped the title from?

Thats right.

[Guest Mad Dog]

I think right now that no one fed can compete with the WWF for a long time.  I think the best bet would be for the XWF and WWA to combine resources.  Together you'd at least have a decent amount of established stars.

 

If Turner would decide to buy another promotion is really the only way I can see a fed getting the resources to protect talent from the WWF.

[Guest]

I just saw on the observer.com that XWF cancelled their show tonight.

[Guest converge241]

I just saw on the observer.com that XWF cancelled their show tonight

 

somewhere between 18 and 50 people bought tickets. Pretty sad.

 

I think the NWA has the best chance. Shouldnt be that much overhead (Shamrock will probably have the highest salary, Jeff Jarrett will probably get a part ownership deal instead of salary, even if they get Sting, it would just be part time, small venues would mean cheaper rental of arena price.)

[Guest Tony149]

Like another poster said, some of the promotions need to form some deal where they'll help each other. The Jarretts have something like that going on right now I belive with the WWA & their NWA promotion. Money and a TV deal are very important. A weekly PPV only show is risky and can bomb. They would need somebody like Turner (Who supposedly wants wrestling back bad and made an offer to buy 51% of the XWF) or Murdock to own a piece of the company to feed them money. It will be hard, but a new promotion can compete with Vince. They just need to know what they're doing.

 

 

Then again, Vince can go out and raid their talent. Which would bite him in the ass somebody, since he's wasting his own money on guys he won't use or even needs.