Guest Report post Posted April 3, 2002 Actually, lets say top ten... 1) HHH vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin, No Way Out 2) Chris Jericho/Chris Benoit vs. HHH/Stone Cold Steve Austin, May RAW 3) TLC 2, Wrestlemania 17 4) Kurt Angle vs. The Rock, No Way Out 5) Chris Benoit vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin, April Smackdown 6) Kurt Angle vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin, Summerslam 7) Chris Jericho vs. The Rock, No Mercy 8) Chris Jericho vs. Chris Benoit, Royal Rumble 9) Kurt Angle vs. Shane McMahon, King of the Ring 10) Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. The Rock, Wrestlemania 17 I did not see Vengance or TLC 3, just so you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted April 3, 2002 Where's my Test vs. Kane? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted April 3, 2002 1. chris benoit vs. chris jericho - royal rumble 2. steve austin vs. hhh - no way out 3. steve austin vs. chris benoit - edmonton smackdown! 4. steve austin/hhh vs. chris benoit/chris jericho - quad is war! 5. steve austin vs. kurt angle - summerslam 6. steve austin vs. chris jericho - vengeance 7. tommy dreamer vs. cw anderson - guilty as charged 8. kurt angle vs. shane mcmahon - king of the ring 9. raven vs. rhyno - backlash 10. rob van dam vs. jerry lynn - guilty as charged Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 3, 2002 Actually, lets say top ten... 1) HHH vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin, No Way Out 2) Chris Jericho/Chris Benoit vs. HHH/Stone Cold Steve Austin, May RAW 3) TLC 2, Wrestlemania 17 4) Kurt Angle vs. The Rock, No Way Out 5) Chris Benoit vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin, April Smackdown 6) Kurt Angle vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin, Summerslam 7) Chris Jericho vs. The Rock, No Mercy 8) Chris Jericho vs. Chris Benoit, Royal Rumble 9) Kurt Angle vs. Shane McMahon, King of the Ring 10) Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. The Rock, Wrestlemania 17 I did not see Vengance or TLC 3, just so you know. Angle: Three of the top ten, Feuding with Edge, Midcard Austin: Five of the top ten, feuding with Scott Hall,Midcard X-Pac: 0 of the top ten, Main eventing, Leader of the nWo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted April 3, 2002 Chris Jericho: Three of the top ten. Feuding with nobody. JTTS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 3, 2002 Thanks I forgot Jericho. And... Rock: Three of the top ten. Gilligan to Hogan's Skipper. Goof who gives up title shots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted April 4, 2002 Getting this topic back on track.... 10) Rock/Jericho, Vengeance 9) Austin/Angle, October RAW 8) Benoit/ Jericho vs Austin/HHH, May RAW 7) Jericho/Benoit, Royal Rumble 6) Jericho/Benoit/Guerrero/X-Pac, No Way Out 5) Austin/Angle, January RAW 4) Austin/Rock, WrestleMania 3) Austin/HHH, No Way Out 2)(tie) Rock/Jericho, No Mercy and Austin/Angle, SummerSlam 1) Benoit/Austin, May Smackdown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted April 4, 2002 10. TLC 3 (Smackdown) 9. Chris Jericho vs. Chris Benoit vs. X-Pac vs. Eddy Guerrero (No Way Out) 8. Chris Jericho vs. Chris Benoit (Royal Rumble) 7. Chris Jericho vs. The Rock (No Mercy) 6. Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle (Wrestlemania) 5. Triple H vs. Steve Austin (No Way Out) 4. Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle (Insurrextion) 3. Chris Benoit vs. Steve Austin (Smackdown) 2. Kurt Angle vs. Steve Austin (Summerslam) 1. The Rock vs. Steve Austin (Wrestlemania) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Austin3164life Report post Posted April 4, 2002 1. Steve Austin vs. Kurt Angle (Summerslam 01) 2. Chris Benoit vs. Chris Jericho (Royal Rumble 01) 3. The Rock vs. Chris Jericho (No Mercy 01) 4. Steve Austin vs. Chris Benoit (May 31st, Smackdown!) 5. Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit (Raw Cage Match) 6. Triple H vs. Steve Austin (No Way Out) 7. Chris Benoit/Chris Jericho vs. Steve Austin/Triple H (Tag Titles) 8. Steve Austin vs. The Rock (Wrestlemania 17) 9. Kurt Angle vs. The Rock (No Way Out) 10. Kurt Angle vs. Steve Austin (Raw, January 01) Austin, Angle, and Jericho. The three of them take up 70% of the Top 10 Matches of last year, and the three of them were depushed following January 7th, 2002. How's that for gratitude.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted April 4, 2002 Debated this for a while. Two and three were hard not to want as number one. No Mercy had a much cleaner finish than either one, and it was acceptable to me. WrestleMania was acceptable on a different level (match storyline) but was still very screwy. Vengeance would have been Match of the year if every match on my list had a clean finish. 1. Rock vs. Jericho - No Mercy 2. Austin vs. Rock - WrestleMania 3. Rock vs. Jericho - Vengeance 4. Austin vs. Benoit - Edmonton Smackdown 5. Triple H vs. Steve Austin - No Way Out 6. Benoit vs. Angle - Insurrexion 7. Benoit vs. Jericho - Royal Rumble 8. Benoit/Jericho vs. Austin/HHH - San Jose RAW 9. Austin vs. Angle - SummerSlam 10. Angle vs. Austin - January RAW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 4, 2002 Thanks for posting, everyone! Good call on the Guerrero/Benoit/X-Pac/Jericho match, guys. Probably the best four-way I have EVER seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sayeitan Report post Posted April 4, 2002 Best 4 way you've ever seen? Then see the ECW TV title 4 way. Thank me later. My "best of the rest 5 matches of 2001": 1. Angle/Benoit Ultimate Submission: I don't know what people could have possibly been expecting with this one, but it was absolutely brilliant for what it was supposed to be. Nothing beats Angle running around like a goof while in the lead. 2. Triple H v. Kurt Angle - Royal Rumble: H becomes Flair, and Angle has to withstand the onslaught. 3. Jericho/Angle/Rock for the Undisputed Title on RAW: Vastly underrated. HOT muthafucka of a match, with The Rock going down in his hometown. 4. Rob Van Dam v. Steve Austin, Smackdown: This is where RVDmania hit its pinnacle, only to be squashed a month later. An angry, emotional Austin looks to make "an example" out of RVD, the most popular Alliance member, but lets his temper get the best of him. 5. Kurt Angle v. Hardcore Holly, King of the Ring qualifier: blow-off to the mini-feud, with the broken arm/moonsault psychology and Holly going apeshit on Angle. Try and track this one down. And yeah, no big surprise - Angle shows up in 4 of the 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 4, 2002 10) Rhyno vs. Raven - Backlash 9) Rob Van Dam vs. Jeff Hardy - Invasion 8) Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit - Judgment Day 7) Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit - WrestleMania X7 6) Rob Van Dam vs. Chris Jericho - Unforgiven 5) TLC II - WrestleMania X7 4) Chris Jericho vs. The Rock - No Mercy 3) Kurt Angle vs. Steve Austin - SummerSlam 2) Austin/HHH vs. Benoit/Jericho - Raw, May 21st 1) Kurt Angle vs. Shane McMahon - King of the Ring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cabbageboy Report post Posted April 4, 2002 Glad to see someone say RVD/Jeff. The Invasion match was badass. Also good to see some love for RVD/Jericho, that was a very underrated match that was forgotten. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted April 4, 2002 10) Kurt Angle/Triple H (Royal Rumble) 9) Steve Austin/Kurt Angle (February Raw) 8) Tables, Ladders, and Chairs II (Wrestlemania X7) 7) The Rock/Steve Austin (WM X7) 6) Chris Benoit/Kurt Angle (Judgement Day) 5) The Rock/Chris Jericho (No Mercy) 4) Kurt Angle/Steve Austin (Summerslam) 3) Chris Benoit/Chris Jericho (Royal Rumble) 2) Chris Benoit/Steve Austin (May Smackdown) 1) Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho/Steve Austin & Triple H (May Raw) Personally, I don't think HHH/Austin or Angle/Shane deserve to be anywhere near the top. The former is just really sloppy, and the ladder is too reliant and rediculous bumps for my liking. I'm annoyed, but not suprised, that people are still pimping ECW stuff on a list like this. Ah well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ManKinnd Report post Posted April 4, 2002 1. Austin vs. HHH 2. Rock vs. Jericho - No Mercy 3. TLC2 - This is my guilty pleasure match 4. Austin vs. Angle - Summerslam 5. Austin vs. Rock - WMX7 6. Angle vs. Benoit - WMX7 7. Jericho vs. Benoit - Ladder 8. Austin vs. Benoit - Smackdown 9. Angle vs. Benoit - Cage 10. Angle vs. Shane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sayeitan Report post Posted April 4, 2002 Personally, I don't think HHH/Austin or Angle/Shane deserve to be anywhere near the top. The former is just really sloppy, and the ladder is too reliant and rediculous bumps for my liking. I'm annoyed, but not suprised, that people are still pimping ECW stuff on a list like this. Ah well. You think HHH/Austin was sloppy and yet you include Rock/Austin on your list. That match contained 2 sloppy bladejobs, 2 sloppy sharpshooters (I mean, REALLY fucking sloppy), a sloppy stunner from The Rock and sloppy interference from Vince. In fact, it was sloppy from bell to bell. Don't really know what you mean when you say "the ladder is too reliant". In fact, it broke my brain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DebilitatorX Report post Posted April 4, 2002 1. Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. The Rock - WrestleMania X-7 2. Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. HHH - No Way Out 3. Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. Kurt Angle - SummerSlam 4. TLC II - WrestleMania X-7 5. "Y2J" Chris Jericho vs. The Rock - No Mercy 6. "Y2J" Chris Jericho vs. The Rock - Vengeance 7. Rob Van Dam vs. Jeff Hardy - InVasion 8. Kurt Angle vs. Shane McMahon - King of the Ring 9. "Y2J" Chris Jericho vs. "The Crippler" Chris Benoit - Royal Rumble 10. WWF vs. The Alliance - InVasion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted April 4, 2002 You think HHH/Austin was sloppy and yet you include Rock/Austin on your list. That match contained 2 sloppy bladejobs, 2 sloppy sharpshooters (I mean, REALLY fucking sloppy), a sloppy stunner from The Rock and sloppy interference from Vince. In fact, it was sloppy from bell to bell. Don't really know what you mean when you say "the ladder is too reliant". In fact, it broke my brain. Yes, Rock/Austin had some sloppy spots in there, but I didn't think they were as bad as those in Austin/HHH. First of all, I don't see how you can call a blade job "sloppy." Second, I didn't think Rock's stunner was that sloppy, nor were his sharp shooters (at least not more than usual) and never did I think they hurt his credibility in the match. Austin's work in the X7 match, in my opinion, was much better than at No Way Out, despite having to play a heel for a crowd that wasn't willing to boo him. To me, HHH/Austin had nothing but sloppy work from the very beginning, with both guys repeating spots, blowing spots, and generally looking lost for most of the match. HHH's blown stun gun was about the sloppiest thing I've seen for a while, and didn't do too much to impress me with his "technical skills" according to J.R. The brawling was pretty lame, too. I liked how they tried to implement the arm psychology, but they just sort of forgot about it after the first fall (in which it wasn't even a factor in the finish) until HHH remembered his arm was hurt so he could take a contrived table bump. And while Rock/Austin did have interference, it did make sense, as opposed to HHH and Austin finding weopons of mass destruction underneath J.R. Oh, and I'm pretty sure you know what I meant, but thanks for playing the troll in the situation and taking your cheap shots, buddy. Maybe I need to re-watch Rock/Austin, but I thought it lived up to the hype, which is more than I can say for Austin/HHH, which frustrated me more than anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 4, 2002 Wow, Austin/Angle/Jericho make up 70 % and get depushed, while the Clique makes up...10% and gets pushed to the moon. That's great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bcu1979 Report post Posted April 4, 2002 1. Rock v. Chris Jericho - No Mercy 2. Benoit/Jericho v. Austin/Triple H - Raw 3. Austin v. Triple H - No Way Out 4. Austin v. Rock - WrestleMania 5. Jericho v. Benoit - Rumble 6. Angle v. Rock - No Way Out 7. Angle v. Shane - King Of The Ring 8. Jericho v. RVD - Unforgiven 9. Angle v. Benoit - WrestleMania 10. RVD v. Jeff Hardy - Invasion There were so many good WWF PPV matches last year that it was hard to only list 10. I always thought the Rock/Angle match from NWO was underrated because of all the attention the Austin/Trips match got. I know it's only April but things are not looking good for next year's list. The only really good match on PPV so far this year was Rock/Jericho at the Rumble. And with Hogan, Taker, Triple H (in his current state), and the NWO on top, it's doubtful we'll see much in the way of great PPV main event matches anytime soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sayeitan Report post Posted April 4, 2002 First of all, I don't see how you can call a blade job "sloppy." Second, I didn't think Rock's stunner was that sloppy, nor were his sharp shooters (at least not more than usual) and never did I think they hurt his credibility in the match. A bladejob can be sloppy when you a) see the blade or b) the cutting is blatant enough as to be one or both of: obvious or caught on camera. A and B apply to the match. Rocky's sharpshooters were ok, but he was far too low at what was supposed to be a pivotal point in the match - essentially a nod to Austin/Hart. Austin's sharpshooters were both incredibly lame, and it was as if the second one was there solely to kill some time. As for Rock's credibility - I had a tough time really rooting for the megaface in peril when he's overselling everything in sight, including a ring bell-shot that left almost a foot between bell and forehead. But as much as I rant about the match, it was effective and had a pretty spectacular conclusion. As for "trolling", I don't really know what you mean. I've been involved in "the scene" for years now, and message boards haven't really been my thing. I didn't mean to be confrontational. I just honestly had no idea what you meant. Yes, I understand "latter" becoming "ladder" but I wasn't quite sure if you forgot to add "reliant on (insert)" or if you meant reliant on the next words. Apologies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted April 4, 2002 Yeah, it looks like the only one capable of working **** matches that is being pushed right now is Rock. Man, I never thought I would be saying that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyChosyu Report post Posted April 4, 2002 A bladejob can be sloppy when you a) see the blade or b) the cutting is blatant enough as to be one or both of: obvious or caught on camera. A and B apply to the match. Rocky's sharpshooters were ok, but he was far too low at what was supposed to be a pivotal point in the match - essentially a nod to Austin/Hart. Austin's sharpshooters were both incredibly lame, and it was as if the second one was there solely to kill some time. As for Rock's credibility - I had a tough time really rooting for the megaface in peril when he's overselling everything in sight, including a ring bell-shot that left almost a foot between bell and forehead. But as much as I rant about the match, it was effective and had a pretty spectacular conclusion. As for "trolling", I don't really know what you mean. I've been involved in "the scene" for years now, and message boards haven't really been my thing. I didn't mean to be confrontational. I just honestly had no idea what you meant. Yes, I understand "latter" becoming "ladder" but I wasn't quite sure if you forgot to add "reliant on (insert)" or if you meant reliant on the next words. Apologies. I guess I see your point about the blade jobs, but I honestly never caught anything like that in Rock/Austin, but then again, I usually never catch that sort of thing, probably because I'm not looking hard enough. I do, however, remember several people complaining about HHH being blatantly caught on camera blading in the No Way Out match, though I never saw that one either. The sharpshooter's in the match were deffinately nods to Austin/Hart (so was the Million-Dollar-Dream rope-walk reversal spot) and for that they did seem sloppy, but I thought they still proved affective. Yeah, Rock did oversell, but I thought with a match of that type it was almost justified, as big matches of that kind were usually played up as "larger than life" and all that. I'm not saying I prefer it that way, but I think Rock selling that was specifically to put Austin over as a God, which is what the crowd seemed to think of him as. As for trolling, I guess it just sort of bothers me when people make a big deal about spelling on the internet. I mean, I can totally understand the frustration if it's unclear what he/she is saying, but nitpicking really annoys the crap out of me, which why I reacted that way, so no hard feelings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sayeitan Report post Posted April 4, 2002 It was honest confusion, but I won't lie and tell you I wasn't being a bit of a prick. That's just the way I am. As for the blade - go back and watch the match again. Rocky drops it in the ring. Quite the flub-up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 4, 2002 Yeah, it looks like the only one capable of working **** matches that is being pushed right now is Rock. Man, I never thought I would be saying that. And Rocky is Hogan's pussy little buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 4, 2002 10 - Angle vs. Booker T - RAW July 01. The "first" WWF vs. WCW match. Booker won via a Nick Patrick screw job. Very exciting match as I recall 09 - Angle vs. Benoit - RAW "Cage Match" June 01 08 - Benoit and Jericho vs. Austin and HHH - RAW May 01 07 - Benoit vs. Guerrero - It was just after Benoit turned on the Radicalz to become a face. It was on a RAW and it was REALLY good. I'm guessing early February 06- Raven vs. Rhyno - Backlash 01 05- Angle vs. Shane Mcmahon- King of the Ring street fight 04- RVD vs. Jeff Hardy - Invasion 01 03- Jericho vs. Benoit - Royal Rumble ladder match 02- Rock vs. Jericho - No Mercy 01 01- Angle vs. Austin - Summerslam 01 I only listed matches that I saw. I've only seen bits and pieces of the great no way out HHH vs. Austin match. I'm pretty sure there's something else I left out as I saw almost every ppv last year. I'll be mad at myself when I remember one These matches were so bad they almost brought me to tears..... 05- Matt vs. Jeff Hardy - Vengeance 01 04- Taker and Kane vs. DDP and Kanyon - Summerslam 01 03- Raven vs. Regal - Invasion 01 02- Taker and Kane vs Kronik - Unforgiven 01 01- Booker T vs. Buff Bagwell - RAW is chinlock 01 Again, I know I'm forgetting something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 4, 2002 These matches were so bad they almost brought me to tears..... 05- Matt vs. Jeff Hardy - Vengeance 01 04- Taker and Kane vs. DDP and Kanyon - Summerslam 01 03- Raven vs. Regal - Invasion 01 02- Taker and Kane vs Kronik - Unforgiven 01 01- Booker T vs. Buff Bagwell - RAW is chinlock 01 Again, I know I'm foregetting something Test vs. Kane, No Mercy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfdogg Report post Posted April 4, 2002 1. Austin/HHH, No Way Out 2. Benoit/Jericho, Royal Rumble 3. Rock/Jericho, No Mercy 4. TLC 2 5. Jericho/Benoit vs. Austin/HHH, RAW 5-21 6. Austin/Angle, SummerSlam 7. Austin/Rock, WrestleMania 8. Shane/Angle, King of the Ring 9. Austin/Benoit, RAW 5-28 in Calgary (didn't see the Edmonton match) 10. RVD/Jeff Hardy, InVasion Didn't see TLC 3 either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
