Now...logic gaps tend to take place in the wwf....

[Guest TheDames7]

Ok,ok....all Hogan hating aside, for I am one of those that thinks that way, but I am going to ask a rational question, and I'd like a REAL answer.  

 

How does Hogan deserve the right to be the number one contender?  The guy has wrestled ONE singles match in the WWF so far....and LOST it.  In tag matches, he has one win over Rock & Austin, but other than that, they were all run-in finishes.  Rock, Angle & Jericho and even UT have legitimate claims to face HHH...but how does Hogan?

 

Also, Vince said that Flair erroneously made UT the number one contender....um, no.  UT asked HHH for a match at Backlash and he agreed.  So, Vince could name a number 1 contender all he wants, HHH should still by all rights have a match with UT.  Besides, since when does the champ agree to face someone and then have that taken away?  

 

Dames - His Head Hurts

[Guest]

"So, Vince could name a number 1 contender all he wants, HHH should still by all rights have a match with UT"

 

In the old days this would hold true. In this era of wrestling, where 'bookers' are seen on regular television though, I have to disagree with you. Vince has already been seen on television telling the wrestlers that they do not have the right to make their own matches. It is silly, but this is sports entertainment.

 

Look at that...I have been promoted.

[Guest Kinetic]

Yes.  But it's at least comforting to know that the Board of Directors had the foresight to write the impromptu coin toss into the contract.  But, at the very least, someone in the WWF has finally come to the conclusion that Undertaker cannot draw a dime.  This should effectively eliminate any further annual main event pushes for him.  It's a beautiful day.

[Guest]

Does anyone else think that maybe Hogan/HHH rather than Hogan/Undertaker is a result of Hogan throwing his weight around between the Raw and Smackdown tapings. Granted its not a long time, but it seems possible to me atleast.

[Guest Some Guy]

I read that Vince wasn't happy with the tepid response to HHH/Taker, so he decided to cash in on Hogan while he's still hot.  Which makes sense to me.  Hogan as the #1 contender I suppose could be explained that because he's a former champ, he deserves a shot again.  But the logic gap is certainly there.

[Guest]

"Does anyone else think that maybe Hogan/HHH rather than Hogan/Undertaker is a result of Hogan throwing his weight around between the Raw and Smackdown tapings. Granted its not a long time, but it seems possible to me atleast."

 

I do not know. There are a couple of theories. I would say that if Triple H is going to turn heel then they are going to need a face to turn him against. I doubt that the turn would have the same effect against the Undertaker as it would against Hogan.

[Guest Shaved Bear]

Does anyone else think that maybe Hogan/HHH rather than Hogan/Undertaker is a result of Hogan throwing his weight around between the Raw and Smackdown tapings. Granted its not a long time, but it seems possible to me atleast.

that actually makes sense, but i think the wwf would tend to be loyal to UT by now

[Guest El Satanico]

Well don't forget that it could just end up being HHH vs. Undertaker vs. Hogan. But i really hope we don't get that awful match. I mean hell HHH vs. Undertaker or Hogan would be horrible but the three way with them would be unbearable to watch.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

fuck i don't want to see HHH wrestle hogan or undertaker

 

seems to me the big money match would be HHH vs. his ego

[Guest Risk]

Hm.  HHH vs. Taker vs. Hogan...you know it is a crappy match when HHH is the best person in it.

 

Hile bps!

[Guest evenflowDDT]

I don't know... I guess by virtue of being able to draw based purely on nostalgia alone (which I'll admit, I was hooked on Hogan nostalgia until I saw his first real match, after which I said, "Wait, why is this guy so great? He sucks!", unfortunately, the fans in general haven't done that yet), that grants you a title shot.  HHH vs. Hogan? I shudder to think, that, in order to work in the RAW vs. Smackdown! aka Flair vs. Vince feud, it will indeed become HHH vs. Hogan vs. Undertaker.  When does Jericho get his rematch, dammit? That's who I want to see as champion again... and what's with The Rock suddenly becoming Hogan's number one fan-boy?

[Guest Northern Lights Brainbuster]

I think its just blatantly obvious that the WWF books for *their* pleasure, not the fans.

 

And they wonder why ratings tend to suck long-term...

 

Anyway, i think this draft was half assed, because no-one really bothered to think about putting 2 halves of a viable feud in the same show. Really, what potential does Backlash show now that the split has fucked things up? Eddy v RVD doesnt count, as anyone can bring in a wrestler after drafting and put them in the show that holds the guy they want to have feud with him.

[Guest Nater]

Just because they say something this day, doesnt mean its gonna stay that way.. its the whole booking angle. Feed the marks and feed the ratings.

[Guest]

I read that Vince wasn't happy with the tepid response to HHH/Taker, so he decided to cash in on Hogan while he's still hot.  Which makes sense to me.  Hogan as the #1 contender I suppose could be explained that because he's a former champ, he deserves a shot again.  But the logic gap is certainly there.

I believe that the whole situation isn't over, i don't think its right to rule Taker out of the main event just yet. The WWF has posted Taker v.s HHH everywhere as its main event for Backlash, all over WWF.com, WWFBacklash.com etc. so i see that its only logical that the Undertaker be invovled in the Undisputed title match in some way at Backlash. I'm with Dames on the fact that Hogan DOES NOT in anyway, shape or form DESERVE a title shot, i see that as Vince cashing in on what's hot...well...what's hot this week anyway.

 

Red & Yellow - Wild today, Dead tomorrow.

 

Hulkacrap lives again, make God have mercy on us all....

 

P.S As the Takers biggest fan, i swear that if Vinnie Mac-"here take a few more special pills Trips"-mahon drops The Deadman outta the Backlash main event, i'll catch the next flight to Titan-Frikken-Towers and shove so much Hulkacrap down Vinnie's throat he'll be excreting red & yellow for years.

 

Taker Mark - Stealing Dame's trademark.

[Guest TheDames7]

Taker Mark - Stealing Dame's trademark.

Its Dames, thief.  For the record, I believe that Jericho should get the shot and have you know....some REAL build up for the match this time around.  

 

Dames - Spelling Checker

[Guest]

***Wipes his forehead***

Damn, am I happy. I've found a forum which isn't full of Hogan marks. Hogan is shit and always has been. Vince made him what he is and that is someone pushed so far they had to be over. I haven't seen the WWF in a while (I don't have cable anymore and wrestling isn't on free TV here in Australia) but it seems the title is pretty well fucked lately with Tripz' win and Hogan's presence. Oh wellums, at least when Jericho was pissed on even as Champ, he still was that... Champ.

 

Tizzurd - Is still hoping for Sean Waltman to win the WWF Title.

[Guest saturnmark4life]

That is stupid. He could at least have won a no1. contender match.

[Guest mastermind]

Guys, the people WANT Hogan in the title match. It's as simple as that. I think the wwf was smart in making Rock do the brainwashing. If it's alright by the man who Hogan lost to says he thinks he should get a title shot the fans will buy it. Did you see all the Hogan stuff in the audience? Hogan's first wwf world championship match since 1993 has MONEY written all over it. Now should he win is a different story.

 

Don't kid yourselves Vince was shooting when he said he knows what's good for the fans. I mean, hell I'm still pretty shocked how over Hogan is. Vince is showing some foresight. Last month on ppv Hogan was over like crazy. His match had championship heat unlike Triple H's. He knows it's nostalgic pops. I mean it's like Mike Tyson facing Lennox Lewis. He had a match with a jabroni and he gets a world title shot? It's Mike Tyson and fans want to see him fight for a title no matter how deranged he is. He's money and right now, so is Hogan.

[Guest areacode212]

Well, it's obvious that the REAL reason is to take advantage of Hogan's big pop while it lasts. But storyline-wise, yeah, it made no sense. His last championship match was 9 years ago! Why does he deserve it more than Angle or Jericho?

[Guest WarMachine]

For the record, I believe that Jericho should get the shot and have you know....some REAL build up for the match this time around.  

 

Dames - Spelling Checker

Or at the very least, Kurt Angle. He and Triple H have been at it on and off since HHH returned, and one would think that they would have faced off for the title at least once since Triple H won the damn thing. Curse this upcoming Edge Vs. Kurt Angle fued.

 

And I don't see how WWF is justified in giving Hogan the shot either, same as you Dames. Except for the pops he's been getting. As Chris Jericho himself stated on Smackdown, Hogan didn't even beat Rock at Wrestlemania.

 

If it is Hogan/Triple H at Backlash, the only good that'll come out of it is if Trips joins the nWo and turns heel. No way anyone wants Hogan as champ, maybe eventually for one last reign, but not this soon. And Triple H ain't losing the title a month after he gets it.

 

If he does join, then at least then he could break up the monotony of his reign with the only thing Triple H is qualified for at this point, that being his ability to be a top-level heel. Plus it'll give the nWo the chance to have it's influence move over to Smackdown, making it the real threat it was billed to be from the beginning.

 

Then ideally at this point, Austin moves on to battle HHH in a fued. Undertaker turns face after his failed experiment, and fends off the remaining nWo. This while Jericho and Angle battle with Rock and Hogan, respectively. This isn't taking into account Chris Benoit though, who could fit in either way. But I'd much rather have Benoit run roughshod over the roster, much in the same way Lesnar has been doing...possibly even returning with a mouthpiece. I would say Shane McMahon in this regard, but I know how much all of you hate him.

 

Of course these last two or three paragraphs are merely in my own opinion, but this would be the way I'd have things pan out.

[Guest Dr. Wrestlingphysics]

The fans may have cheered Hogan for nostalgic reasons at Wrestlemania and at shows since, but I don't think even super-marks want to see him with the title belt again and realise he should not be champion.

If it does turn out to be HHH vs HHH at Backlash, it may be one time that Hunter gets cheered more than his opponent... wait a minute... It could all be a plan to get Triple H some face heat.

 

From a storyline point of view, Hogan's title shot does not make sense, and as mentioned earlier, there should have been some sort of #1 contender match.

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

there wasn't a no 1 contenders match because the WWF want to limit Hogan's time in singles wrestling as much as possible, because if he is over exposed people will get quickly realise how awful he is and get sick off him. Hulk is over for nostalgia and novelty value.

 

It'll be interesting to see who wins the booking battle between HHH and Hogan.

[Guest swan]

 How does Hogan deserve the right to be the number one contender?  The guy has wrestled ONE singles match in the WWF so far....and LOST it.  In tag matches, he has one win over Rock & Austin, but other than that, they were all run-in finishes.  Rock, Angle & Jericho and even UT have legitimate claims to face HHH...but how does Hogan?

Sice when has wins and losses mattered? Jericho won the title eeven though he was jobbed and buried for the most part of last year. When did the wins and losses last matter in the WWF? Hard to say but it was pre-attitude era. Remember when the IC title holder was considered number 1?

[Guest notJames]

It's starting to look like the only way they can have Hogan wrestle for the belt is if it's a 3-way with Hunter and UT. It would limit Hogan's in-ring time ('cuz lord knows he couldn't hack it for a good amount of time), which would in turn fool the fans into thinking Hogan can still keep up with the others, thus keeping him a draw for that much longer.

 

I for one still don't see an upside to having him in the title hunt. He looks like the Gobbledygooker in his old gear and boa, and still cuts 80s-style babyface promos, making him look that much older. My only hope is that the match finally exposes him for the washed-up Hogan that we all know he is. Cuz you know, HHH and UT can't carry any wrestlers for shit.  That or Hogan will pull a Piper and finally break his hip and get out of the biz altogether.

 

Maybe all three of them will end up looking so bad that they'll have to change the entire title picture. (Dare to dream...)

 

Benoit is coming, Benoit is coming...

[Guest]

Dunno anyone  mentioned it but it could go like this.

 

Ric Flair would push for the Taker vs HHH, because you know he doesn't want to get beaten down by Taker again

 

Vince refuses maintaining the Hogan vs HHH match

 

Soooo

 

Ric Flair and Vince make a Compremise for the good of the WWF  so at backlash

 

BEFORE the Main event

 

Hogan vs Undertaker,  the winner faces HHH later in the night..

 

Seems the only thing that makes sense other than just dumping angles.

[Guest]

Dunno anyone  mentioned it but it could go like this.

 

Ric Flair would push for the Taker vs HHH, because you know he doesn't want to get beaten down by Taker again

 

Vince refuses maintaining the Hogan vs HHH match

 

Soooo

 

Ric Flair and Vince make a Compremise for the good of the WWF  so at backlash

 

BEFORE the Main event

 

Hogan vs Undertaker,  the winner faces HHH later in the night..

 

Seems the only thing that makes sense other than just dumping angles.

Hogan work two singles match is in a night, impossible.

 

and I dont think Hogan would let Undertaker go over in a singles match either.

[Guest notJames]

UT does owe a clean win to the Orange One, and you know how Hogan likes to collect on those, even if it's 11 years too late.

 

(I'll bet he' still trying to find a way to get that pin on Yokozuna...)

 

Just let the 3 idiots crowd the title match so we can get more Angle and Jericho in the upper midcard match(es).

[Guest RetroRob215]

The reason he deserves to be the #1 contender is because he is more over than any WWF SuperStar has been in years.  The WWF wants another big buyrate, so they put the #1 face in the main event spot.  They probably figure a lot of the current fans will be interested in show, as well as many older fans looking for some nostaglia.

[Guest notJames]

I guess you have to use Hogan's uncanny popularity while it's still hot,a nd perhaps it will bring the casual fans back.

 

But can the Fed sustain interest in their product long after Hogan's usefulness has disappeared (Mid-June at the latest)? Considering how they've logjammed the Raw main with the un-over nWold, pissed off Raw's only real draw to the point of refusing to work, and turned Smackdown's biggest star into Hogan's ass-kissing little buddy while misusing all that young and over talent, my faith is truly being tested...

[Guest Shawn]

Why did they give Hogan the shot?

 

Simple. He's Hogan.