Guest Report post Posted April 6, 2002 Jerry Lynn brought into the WWF wins the Light heavyweight title in his first match, did a few decent matches here and there as Champ, starting a angle where he does more Heel Cheat style pins, had a stellar match with RVD on Heat (Best they could do at least considering WWF) He gets injured and Pink slipped. Absolutely forgotten in the Invasion angle and basically buried until they finally released him. You can't say he wasn't a team player because he offered to go to the Developement territories to train wrestlers or to train himself in the WWF style. But the WWF Flats out refuses. for those Trivia nuts like I am, remember that Lynn did jobber spots for the WWF in the past before settling into ECW. For some reason WWF and Lynn never stuck it out longer than a few months. Even Paul Heyman, who joined the WWF and was instramental in the few former ECW wrestler's pushes refuses to help Lynn. So the question is... Lynn is a Skilled Wrestler, great Cruiserweight potential, could even go hardcore if needs be, Why did the WWF just treat him like he was a Dog you shoot and bury out in the backyard cuz he gone Rabid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted April 6, 2002 I've wondered about this myself, and the only answer I can come up with is...the WWF has no respect whatsoever for wrestlers who have been designated as cruiserweights, no matter how talented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Son of Sting Report post Posted April 6, 2002 He got buried soon after he did that semi-shoot on JR from WWF New York. I would guess thats the reason why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted April 6, 2002 I missed that, what did he say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 6, 2002 WWF has no respect for people/"superstars" not created by themselves, minus RVD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted April 6, 2002 It was from Judgement Day 2001. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Son of Sting Report post Posted April 6, 2002 Of the top of my head, it was along the lines of how badly he was being treated. I might watch it later and write it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 6, 2002 I never really liked the guy, but I did love his match with RVD at Hardcore Heaven '99, and I respect him for continuing on after crackin his skull when he got knocked off the ropes. I didn't really follow his WWF Career much, maybe he was fired because he lacked charisma? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Stupendous Man Report post Posted April 6, 2002 The gist of it was this: "Well JR, I guess this means I hit the big time. I'm the LHW Champ and now I'm on a big time PPV...and now I get to host the damn show from WWFNY. Heaven forbid I have a match, huh JR? Maybe a champion should have matches on PPVs? <insert death metal yell here>" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FakeRazor Report post Posted April 6, 2002 Ah, I remember that Lynn promo. I'd imagine it was a combination of the promo, his age, lack of charisma, height, and injury that got him fired. All they'd have to do to get him over is put him in a match against Van Dam on RAW (not Heat dammit). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 6, 2002 I like Lynn and all, but with the dirth of talent and the cruiser stigma, I can see why he was dropped. There's nothing to say he won't be back though, especially if he gets a good push in the WWA. I do wish he had wrestled RVD or even his old buddy X-Pac a few times before he was cut, and I have a feeling that he could put on a dynamite match with Benoit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted April 6, 2002 I've wondered about this myself, and the only answer I can come up with is...the WWF has no respect whatsoever for wrestlers who have been designated as cruiserweights, no matter how talented.>>> He wasn't THAT talented. It's not like he was out there cranking out good matches regularly. He was, and always has been, decent at best with terrible mic skills. A more overrated series of matches do not exist that compare to RVD v Lynn. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shawn Report post Posted April 6, 2002 Mr. JL can carry anyone to a good match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted April 6, 2002 Mr. JL can carry anyone to a good match. >>> His matches always hovered in the 3-star range for me. When a match flat-out LOOKS choreographed, it loses a lot in my eyes---and his matches LOOKED choreographed. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Maurizio C... Version 2 Report post Posted April 6, 2002 well, half of the former ecw roster's matchs looked coreographated but that doens' mean shit. RVD is the king of coreogrphy. His matches are highspots fest at best. the only difference between him and Lynn is that Lynn is a known good hand in the ring whereas RVD can't help but injure any damn jobber/midcarder/ME he sees. WWF really dropped the ball on many potential feud that could have at least drawn from the ecw fanbase. RVD vs Lynn RVD vs Storm (I mean in a non-comedic way) Lynn vs Storm Credible vs Lynn (remember the summer series?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cabbageboy Report post Posted April 6, 2002 Jerry is cool...he is the only guy that ever got a damn good match out of Justin Credible. Top that one, Benoit. Haha. There could be a damn good series of 3 way matches with RVD/Eddie/Lynn if Jerry was still there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 6, 2002 a recent wrestling observer article said that the JL/JR conversation went as scripted, so it couldn't have had anything to do with his push disappearing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted April 6, 2002 i liked Lynn. i recall a newspaper aeticle talking about how he rescued two kids who were drowning in a swimming pool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Maurizio C... Version 2 Report post Posted April 6, 2002 I see it as Lynn is a really humble person. he partecipates on indy shows and volunteer to job to indy stars. Other guys like waltman, RVD or Shane Douglas would never do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 6, 2002 Jerry Lynn/Lance Storm from Anarchy Rulz 99 is one of my all-time favorites. And as far as the RVD/Lynn matches being overrated goes, that's not Lynn and Van Dam's fault, they put on damn good matches in my opinion. It's a shame Lynn doesn't have a spot in the WWF. Even if you don't think he's good(I think he's great), you can at least say he deserves a spot more than guys like Test and Mark Henry. Those damn deadweights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted April 6, 2002 Ughh, I'd forgotten about Mark Henry. Please don't push him Vince. Please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Maurizio C... Version 2 Report post Posted April 6, 2002 I think the way Vince reintroduced mark henry is comical. A few days after competing in the Arnold Scwarzenegger's competition BUm... mark Henry's on raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 6, 2002 Lynn deserves a spot more than MANY people on that damn roster. He can have good matchs. A *** match is good! Especially cuz he has them almost everymatch. His series w/RVD was great, simply put. ECW ECW ECW! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinkslut Report post Posted April 6, 2002 i agree i like RVD and Lynn but i mark for lynn more going off the topic a bit i dont now why they dident build on the Storm and RVD I think it was on RAw just before Wrestlemania they had a really good match but nothing has happnened since then, i mean it would be a simple face/heel fuid and could easily elavate storm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FakeRazor Report post Posted April 6, 2002 I think Lynn is amazing. He can pull of cool looking spots like Rob Van Dam, yet he has more psychology in his matches, and can mat wrestle when he wants too. The WWF just doesn't recognize talent when they see it, and I'd bet they didn't like his lack of charisma, mic skills, or his size either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 9, 2002 I think the bookers were gonig to put Lynn in the ECW part of the Alliance but Heyman told them not to and that he doesn't want lynn to have Anything to do with the invasion. Why was that? Do any fellow smarks know out there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted April 9, 2002 well, half of the former ecw roster's matchs looked coreographated but that doens' mean shit. RVD is the king of coreogrphy. His matches are highspots fest at best. the only difference between him and Lynn is that Lynn is a known good hand in the ring whereas RVD can't help but injure any damn jobber/midcarder/ME he sees.>>> RVD in ECW was horribly overrated. His matches were plodding affairs with stalling aplenty. His work in the WWF has been much better due to him being given much less time to kill. And, yes, A LOT of ECW guys had a problem with overly choreographed matches. Which is why a lot of them performed better AWAY from ECW (see Raven and Saturn in WCW for an example). <<<WWF really dropped the ball on many potential feud that could have at least drawn from the ecw fanbase.>>> The ECW fanbase doesn't generate a ton of money. The company did go belly-up. <<<RVD vs Lynn RVD vs Storm (I mean in a non-comedic way) Lynn vs Storm Credible vs Lynn (remember the summer series?) >>> In order---overrated, possibly decent, possibly decent, overrated. Sorry, but Lynn doesn't impress me one bit and it took somebody like Lance Storm to ground him and make him work a real match. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted April 9, 2002 Jerry Lynn/Lance Storm from Anarchy Rulz 99 is one of my all-time favorites. And as far as the RVD/Lynn matches being overrated goes, that's not Lynn and Van Dam's fault, they put on damn good matches in my opinion. It's a shame Lynn doesn't have a spot in the WWF. Even if you don't think he's good(I think he's great), you can at least say he deserves a spot more than guys like Test and Mark Henry. Those damn deadweights. >>> In my eyes, saying a guy deserves a spot because there are worse guys in the promotion (why no Tommy Dreamer mention, BTW? Worse than anybody listed) is not exactly high praise. -=Mike ...Who thinks Test is decent---but an absolute dud as a heel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted April 9, 2002 <<<Lynn deserves a spot more than MANY people on that damn roster. He can have good matchs. A *** match is good! Especially cuz he has them almost everymatch. His series w/RVD was great, simply put.>>> We, obviously, have a vastly different definition of what qualifies a series as being "great". RVD v Lynn was OK, but it Steamboat v Flair it was not. Heck, Rock v Jericho it was not, either. <<<ECW ECW ECW! >>> Never understood why the fed got the chants instead of the performers in the ring killing themselves. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted April 9, 2002 I think the bookers were gonig to put Lynn in the ECW part of the Alliance but Heyman told them not to and that he doesn't want lynn to have Anything to do with the invasion. Why was that? Do any fellow smarks know out there? >>> Actually, Lynn was supposed to be part of the Invasion. I remember wwf.com actually had his name listed with the ECW guys who "turned" on the WWF and WCW at the Georgia Dome RAW. However, his knee was hurt and he couldn't make the show, thus, he was not in the angle. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
