Guest Report post Posted April 6, 2002 I was just thinking, I've had this idea in my head for a while now, and it might be pretty good. I was thinking about what if they made a belt similar to the Cruiserweight Title, but for guys over 350 pounds? The Superweight Title or whatever, and only really big fat guys could compete for it. And make it so that they have to win the title and get over with it before moving on to other more legitimate titles like the IC or World. The reason I was thinking this is because cruisers can get shunted down to competing for a smaller, less legitimate belt, while big guys can be upped in feuds over IC and World Titles because there's no seperate titles for them. It also makes it kind of pointless to have a Cruiserweight Title and a Heavyweight Title without having a Middleweight (who are mostly considered heavyweihts anyways so that's ok) Title and a SuperHeavyweight Title (which I'm suggesting here). What do you guys think of that idea? The matches might suck, but it would open up an opportunity to clear up the main event and make a new division that would get some of the bigger guys who have had a rough time getting over, over (Albert, Big Show, etc.) And this would make the smarks happy because then we could keep the big guys out of the main events. Yes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Caliban Report post Posted April 6, 2002 I think the motives behind such an idea are sound, you want to get big guys over. But if they're not getting over by having average matches with good workers who can carry them, then how are they going to get over by having a series of crappy matches with each other? Big Show vs Albert? UGH Remember Big Show vs Kane? That feud didn't exactly electify anyone. A division in which only big men could compete, would just expose the performers as untalented lardasses even more than thy are already... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest muzanisa Report post Posted April 6, 2002 Good idea in theory but the matches. Ugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 6, 2002 I think the motives behind such an idea are sound, you want to get big guys over. But if they're not getting over by having average matches with good workers who can carry them, then how are they going to get over by having a series of crappy matches with each other? Big Show vs Albert? UGH Remember Big Show vs Kane? That feud didn't exactly electify anyone. A division in which only big men could compete, would just expose the performers as untalented lardasses even more than thy are already... I think the motives behind such an idea are sound, you want to get big guys over. But if they're not getting over by having average matches with good workers who can carry them, then how are they going to get over by having a series of crappy matches with each other? I think the driving idea isn't necessarily that, what I am doing by accomplishing that is by giving an equal chance to the cruisers as the big guys. Because like I said, the cruisers can compete for a less legitimate title, but the big guys can't, so when the Fed tries to push them we get such results as Kane fighting for the World Title or Big Show WINNING it. Having a title where we can keep the big slow guys out of the main event and into their own division would keep the smark community, and quite possibly even the mark community happy (by seeing a bunch of giants wrestling each other, it's like watching Power Rangers or Godzilla movies, I dunno...) A division in which only big men could compete, would just expose the performers as untalented lardasses even more than they are already... I doubt that, only because there would be a hell of a lot more selling going on rather than if someone like Angle is fighting Big Show, where Angle keeps punching Show and it does nothing, then Show punches Angle and WHAM Angle sells like a champ. We constantly see that with big guy vs. smaller guy matches, so maybe a big guy vs. big guy match could have much more action due to the larger sizes involved. I also don't think I'm alone in saying that everyone, Big Show, Albert, Kane, any big guy regardless of size should be just as well conditioned as a middleweight like Austin or HHH. I'm not askign they be as conditioned as a cruiserweight to put on high-risk, fast-paced matches, but there could definitely be some better conditioning for the big guys to have more powerful, intense matches with more action. If they don't have the conditioning for the sport then they might as well not be in it at all, for competition's sake. \ Why competition's sake, you ask? Because in an actual fight, a big guy with no stamina would get absolutely thrashed against a cruiser with fighting talent and the stamina to go with it. So those big guys should stay just as conditioned as the smaller ones to get over as athletes as well instead of jsut being some big lugs who throw midgets around, which they wouldn't be able to do in a superheavyweight division. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 6, 2002 Damn, if it was 2000, these matches wouldn't NEARLY be as bad. In '00 Rikishi didn't suck, Kane wasn't too bad, and Big Show was at his slimmest* (*In the WWF) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RetroRob215 Report post Posted April 6, 2002 But why would you want to waste TV time on them? Lately Big Show hasn't wrestled, Bossman was in a tag match, and Rikishi & Haku have disappeared, so why give them an excuse to come back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shawn Report post Posted April 6, 2002 A simple idea to make all smarks happy[/qutoe] That's a contradiction in terms. Pfft... happy Smarks... There was one of those. It was the SuperHeavyWeight Title. Everyone got tired of huge slow mammoths and their sumo wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheyCallMeMark Report post Posted April 7, 2002 I'd like to see Brock Lesnar rip 'em up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted April 7, 2002 "Pfft... happy Smarks..." It happened twice. For about 24 hours in January of 2000 when Benoit had the WCW belt for a day. Then for about 3 minutes in late 2000, before Foley restarted the Benoit-Rock match. As for a super-duper heavy and slow division, why bother? While I would prefer most of those guys would disappear the thought of them wrestling each other on a continuous basis is too much to handle. At least a God like Benoit or Angle can carry most of these stiffs to a watchable match every once in a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted April 7, 2002 You want to hear a better solution for handling the big and/or fat waste of spaces? fire each and everyone of those fuckers. Well ok a fed needs a few useless fat asses for whatever reasons...but still just fire all of them except one or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted April 7, 2002 "Pfft... happy Smarks..." It happened twice. For about 24 hours in January of 2000 when Benoit had the WCW belt for a day. Then for about 3 minutes in late 2000, before Foley restarted the Benoit-Rock match. And when ECW reformed in the WWF...of course THAT didn't last long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 7, 2002 No...see the premise of a smart (Or Smark if you are a follower of Scott Keith) is that they like actual wrestling. They can take some of those sportz entertainment things, but not absolute crap matches like your Kane/Big Show main events. Get workers who want to work and entertain, and you got yourself a winning program, but get a match between X-Pac and Scott Hall after X-Pac slept with Hall's grandma, then that isn't wrestling OR Sports Entertainment...that's just garbage wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted April 7, 2002 "You want to hear a better solution for handling the big and/or fat waste of spaces? fire each and everyone of those fuckers. Well ok a fed needs a few useless fat asses for whatever reasons...but still just fire all of them except one or two." Besides making Benoit the undisputed champ, BEST IDEA EVER! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted April 7, 2002 better than firing them...torture them and THAN fire them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted April 7, 2002 "better than firing them...torture them and THEN fire them" ok, new best idea ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 7, 2002 Yeah, um, is there a reason why Benoit isn't just given the belt when he returns in a few weeks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted April 7, 2002 because Vnce hates us and doesn't want to make us happy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RickyB Report post Posted April 7, 2002 Yeah, um, is there a reason why Benoit isn't just given the belt when he returns in a few weeks? Yeah, he sucks on the mic. I've never liked Benoit since he left WCW, he's a whiner, whenever things aren't going his way he goes and blames everyone else. He wasn't getting the main event spot in WCW - he blames Hogan. Yeah Benoit was in the horsemen, damn Hogan. Yeah, Benoit gets huge amounts of TV time to put on good matches, damn Hogan. Yeah, Benoit gets the match against Bret Hart in memory of Owen, damn Hogan. He got a push in WCW, he even won the World Title. Yet he goes and whines because Kevin Sullivan was made booker... it wasn't Kevin Sullivan's fault that Benoit had to have an affair with Sullivan's ex-wife, in fact wasn't he sleeping with her when she was still married to Kevin Sullivan? Every time any little thing goes wrong in his career he goes and blames someone else and all the smarks support him because he's Chris Benoit! No...see the premise of a smart (Or Smark if you are a follower of Scott Keith) is that they like actual wrestling. They can take some of those sportz entertainment things, but not absolute crap matches like your Kane/Big Show main events. Get workers who want to work and entertain, and you got yourself a winning program, but get a match between X-Pac and Scott Hall after X-Pac slept with Hall's grandma, then that isn't wrestling OR Sports Entertainment...that's just garbage wrestling. No, a smark is someone who basically knows more than they are supposed too about what goes on backstage. And Garbage Wrestling is ECW/XPW/CZW style Hardcore Matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted April 7, 2002 i think we're all just evading the real issue of what would make the smarks happiest: CREATING A BRA AND PANTIES TITLE. stacy keibler can be the champion. to make sure she always wins, she can just not wear any bra or panties underneath her clothes (cause she can't be stripped to her bra & panties, so she can never lose the match). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 7, 2002 In the bra & panties title Trish would be champ.. sorry godthedog, but Trish is the total package. Staci has NO upper body. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 7, 2002 Some of us do not mind if a woman has no upper body. I vote for Stacy. Rowr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RicFlairGlory Report post Posted April 7, 2002 In the bra & panties title Trish would be champ.. sorry godthedog, but Trish is the total package. Staci has NO upper body. man I used to be a HUGE tit guy, but man... stacy is too fine, that bod... shmokin... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted April 7, 2002 I think most smarks would be happier if wrestlers above 350lbs just wern't allowed. Am I the only one who finds bra and panties matches really, really dull? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted April 7, 2002 Super-heavyweight title. Only defended in backyards and house shows. Ehh, might as well throw Test in there too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 7, 2002 Lets hope Jim Ross isnt seeing this. He'd bust a nut if he saw this big hosses wrestle each other all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted April 7, 2002 Am I the only one who finds bra and panties matches really, really dull? Dull? They are beyond dull and are a waste of time. Big tits just means saggy tits so i'd prefer a great body over big bags of fat or silicone whichever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 8, 2002 Am I the only one who finds bra and panties matches really, really dull? No, you're not, unless it's the comedy genius of Patterson and Brisco wrestling for the Bra-and-Panties title, I don't think I could stand to see something that INTENSE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
