Where can jericho go now?

[Guest HBK WILL ROT IN HELL]

I think Jerichos clean loss to the Rock has to totally kill his main event credibility if it wasn't already destroyed. Y2J had outside interference help Angle hit his finisher and Jericho still couldn't avoid the clean loss. what do you think is going to happen to Jericho. Back to the midcard perhaps;) is their anything that can be done to resurrect his career?

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

If a clean job on TV is all it takes to destroy Jericho's credibility, then he probably isn't main event level to begin with.

[Guest HBK WILL ROT IN HELL]

dude haven't u been following all the stuff hes been involved with recently. He never had any credibility with the Title because of booking

[Guest Nater]

I think its safe to say that Jericho was getting nowhere as a Heel. Although he did become the living legend and that was fun to watch, the matches were lacking clean finishes.. hell I think he would have been booked to use a chair on Ralphus.

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

The living legend gimmick is pretty poor, IMO. He really should be more of a vicious asshole. I think he will probably have to float around the midcard for a while now. Maybe he and Benoit will team up again.

[Guest Maurizio C... Version 2]

as I've written in other posts, i thing Kericho's dead and buried. He did all he could do to get over but there were still factors against him.

 

size = say what you want but he's still a cruiserwight in many people's eyes. HHH, Rock and Austin are HUGE by Jericho's standards.

 

Booking inconsistency = jericho's been booker to be a lose his whole wwf career. first he's a punk... then he's a warrior... then he's a heel champion... the he's a coward champion... but the writers have never stuck with one idea for him and elaborated it fully. that hurt him.

 

title pattern inconsistency = first he challenges for the world title... wins it on a fluke and returns it to HHH... then he comes back feuding for the IC gold... then it's the world title again... then... get it?

 

Yes, maybe his only hope is that Benoi comes back and chooses to team with him, but hey, benoit's story's not better then...

[Guest]

I agree. I don't think that one loss killed his credibility, and as a matter of fact, the Rock (even though Im not a big fan of his) was the "one" who basically met Jericho halfway and got him "over" into the main event (he did job to him in at least four high-profile title matches: No Mercy, Vengance, Insuurextion, Royal Rumble, etc). However (and I do not hate HHH), what i think hurts jericho more was the whole HHH storyline debacle. Jericho was booked to look like a pansy the entire storyline, and I dont think HHH has done the job for him ONCE, and HHH did drag down the Wrestlemania match. Plus, why hasnt Jericho even been given a rematch? Its the stuff like that that kills someone's credibility, and I hope Vince comes to his senses with Jericho. The dude's for real.

Joe P.

[Guest Maurizio C... Version 2]

Jericho = the lamest transitional champ there ever was.

[Guest]

hell I think he would have been booked to use a chair on Ralphus.

He should of been, Ralphus was a trained killer!

[Guest]

Triple H has never done anything for Jericho. You can argue that Triple H didn't job but did put him over around the time they were feuding and the "Last Man Standing Match." Hell, remember during the "Two Man Power Trip?" It was Jericho who Triple H beat for the IC Title. Did Jericho ever get a Rematch? NO. It wasn't even mentioned again that it was Jericho, Triple H beat.

 

There has been heat between Triple H and Jericho since the day Jericho debuted in the WWF. Triple H had problems with Jericho because he Stiffed Chyna too hard during Matches.

[Guest muzanisa]

We'd see less of him, but I'd like to see him in the Indies and Japan. If he hasn't signed a new contract and is offered the same or lower deal he has now then I'd like him to tell the WWF to stuff it and sign on the AJPW tours and work for the WWA and whoever else was hiring. It would make Vince look stupid for hiring every bit of talent in N. America that could conceivably help a start up promotion and then losing one of his top ten guys by being a tight arse and Jericho would have much better matches in Japan.

[Guest Human Fly]

"title pattern inconsistency = first he challenges for the world title... wins it on a fluke and returns it to HHH... then he comes back feuding for the IC gold... then it's the world title again... then... get it?"

 

Exactly, man the crowd went nuts when he won the title! Then that crap where HHH forced Hebner to give the title back. Where was the commisioner? He sure was around when Benoit had his feet on the ropes. It's crap like that when the WWF gets on my nerves. Also, since he beat HHH for the title you would think he would get a rematch, but no there he was feuding for IC a few weeks later. Everyone I knew was like "What is Jericho doing getting dropped to IC already?" It killed a lot of his heat I think.

[Guest notJames]

Jericho = the lamest transitional champ there ever was.

I think Big Show was an even bigger mess of a champ. I mean, he defended the title against the Big Bossman, for fuck's sake. If that's not lame, I don't know what is.

[Guest notJames]

As for Jericho, I can only hope that one day soon, HHH's biceps rupture from holding down everyone and has to retire to the same dinosaur graveyard that Scott Steiner is heading toward. Jericho will have his day soon. Karma always finds a way...

[Guest bcu1979]

The point of him jobbing clean to the Rock at Smackdown last week if Rock was leaving for two months is lost on me. Maybe it will lead somewhere on SD this week. But I wouldn't start shoveling the dirt on Jericho's career just yet. I think he has proven throughout his WWF stint that he has enough charisma and talent to survive a lot of bad booking.

 

Here's someone who jobbed clean to Chyna on PPV at one point and then got stuck in a 4 month angle with her. Jericho's hottest run as a face (Jan-Aug 2000) came during a time where he got jobbed out on 7 straight PPV's. His merchandise sales were probably second only to Rock and his pops were second only to Rocky, even though he never won a big match during that entire span. The fans wanted to see him move up to main events. It was only after the feud with Triple H got dropped without Jericho getting the big win that his pops decreased.

 

Jericho still managed to get good pops after that even though he was stuck running in place from August 2000 - up through Judgment Day 2001. He was thrown in pointless feuds with X-Pac and Kane before he had that classic ladder match with Benoit. Then as a reward for that match, Jericho was thrown in another awful feud with William Regal that was played completely for laughs.

 

My point in this recap of Jericho's career is that Jericho can still be a major player for the WWF in their short-term and long-term future. It's just a question of WWF actually devoting themselves to treating Jericho properly. If Jericho is missing anything (as Triple H said) it's the support of the WWF management.

 

Every time that the WWF has pushed Jericho strong, the fans have responded in kind. (i.e. - his debut, "winning the title" from Triple H, Last Man Standing feud, RAW tag match, feud with Rock, winning WCW title, his title reign while feuding with Rock) But every single time they pushed him, he was cut off at the knees soon afterwards.

 

Debut - jobbing to guys like Gangrel and Godfather within a few months

 

Winning the title on RAW - gets called a midget by Triple H, gives up belt without a fight and gets pinned clean by Triple H later that night

 

Summer 2000 feud with Triple H - loses LMS and then Triple H completely buries him in a promo the next night by "putting him over"

 

Raw tag match - gets legs cut off immediately as he is portrayed as the weak link of the Jericho/Benoit team and gets no mic time to build up the match with Austin

 

WCW title win - loses title to the Rock two weeks later for absolutely no reason

 

Rock feud around Rumble 2002 - Jericho was starting to get over as a credible champion thanks to his ring and mic work. The promo he cut on Rock before the Rumble was tremendous and he was the first heel to break the what chants. As a reward, Jericho becomes Stephanie's errand boy/bitch in numerous skits designed with the sole purpose of making Stephanie look strong and Jericho look like a complete joke. And, can you believe it? This feud also involved Triple H.

 

No, Jericho did not get much heat at the start of his title reign. He only lost clean to Rock and Austin and got beat up by Angle the week before Vengeance and was portrayed as out of his league by the announcers. But to say that the fans won't accept Jericho as a top guy because his WWF title run got off to a weak start and then was deliberately buried at the end is complete bullshit.

 

Remember when they started the Jericho/Rock feud last October? Jericho was going nowhere in the mid-card as he had become RVD's personal job boy with RVD getting cheered over him as well. But one backstage brawl between Jericho and Rocky and all of a sudden Jericho instantly became hot again. Half of the crowd was cheering for him over Rock at No Mercy and there was a huge pop when Jericho won the match. The WWF, and more importantly Rocky, treated Jericho like a legitimate threat to Rock so the fans bought it. Not because they forgot about all the jobs Jericho had done recently. But because they wanted to see Jericho at that level. Who else besides Austin and Hogan have ever got cheered over Rock?

 

This also shoots holes in the "too short" argument because Rock and Triple H are both 4-5 inches taller than Jericho but fans have seen him as a legitimate rival to both in the past. Rocky was bumping for Jericho's forearms on Smackdown last week. Jericho never wrestles "short" against main eventers and if they don't treat him as "short" then fans will believe it.

 

To me, Jericho is a more credible main eventer than someone like Edge who has the height the WWF likes. Jericho is shorter, but he's also much bulkier. Edge and Jericho are probably around the same weight but because Edge is taller, he looks like a broomstick while Jericho looks the part of the cocky, overacheiving underdog. Jericho has also proven that he can cut the serious, dramatic promos that are needed to go up against the Rock's and the Austin's. Edge still comes across as a goofy comedy act in his promos.

 

Chris Jericho IS a viable main event player in the WWF. The problem is with the shortsighted beliefs held by WWF management and the insecure egos backstage. The problem is not with Chris Jericho.

[Guest]

I Dont Think that one clean loss to the Rock will kill Jericho's credibility. I mean losing a match in the main event against Rock is lot better than beting a hardy in a meaningless mid card match. At least Jericho is in the main event but for how long i think Jericho needs a Face Push.

[Guest]

If a clean job on TV is all it takes to destroy Jericho's credibility, then he probably isn't main event level to begin with.

Good point there Hogan Made.