Youth N Asia 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2003 Not a week goes by that the evil heel GM makes a goddamn handicap match. And usually they're boring as hell and overly predictable. It's not as bad as it was a couple years ago when Rock was winning 2-1, 3-1, and 4-1 matches every friggin week, but it's just making for bad tv. I'm not saying they can't still be used...but give it a rest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted November 29, 2003 Or better yet, get rid of evil GM's! Vince ran the concept into the ground. It may have been fresh in 98, but it's DONE. Find something new Vinnie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2003 Or better yet, get rid of evil GM's! Vince ran the concept into the ground. It may have been fresh in 98, but it's DONE. Find something new Vinnie. The problem with that is we'll get Steph back quickly to kick Heyman off Smackdown if you wish too hard, unless she becomes an evil GM herself and annoys the hell out of us again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2003 Handicap matches are okay, as long as they don't have only one guy on one side. There have been decent 2vs3 and 3vs4 handicap matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest netslob Report post Posted November 29, 2003 unless she becomes an evil GM herself and annoys the hell out of us again. i think that's a given Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2003 I heard they're not bringing Stephanie back soon... as they are quite pleased with Heyman's progress.... he gets a +10 SP for keeping Steph the hell off the TV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2003 I heard they're not bringing Stephanie back soon... as they are quite pleased with Heyman's progress.... he gets a +10 SP for keeping Steph the hell off the TV. Yeah, but you know how WWE is if they see that ratings are down during Heyman's progression. Vince:"Holy shit! Smackdown got a 2.9 this week! It's time to get rid of Heyman and bring back my daughter, Stephanie! Then I'll have her turn heel!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 But the thing is ratings aren't down... if they are, then shoot me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silence 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 But the thing is ratings aren't down... if they are, then shoot me. I'm saying if they are later on while Heyman is still GM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Then let's keep tuning in.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Can someone track down how many handicap matches were actually won by the 2 (or 3) guys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Easy... last Raw... Test and Steiner defeated RVD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 So your answer is 1? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Kurrgan/Golga/Silva def. TAKA/Funaki/Teoh/Togo at SSlam 98 in a handicap match.... of course that was 5 years ago and it really shouldn't be called a handicap match since one Golga = 2 Evil Japs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 So your answer is 1? Err... no, there were more, but I can't think of them from off the top of my head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 So again, I state: Can someone track down how many handicap matches were actually won by the 2 (or 3) guys? So far: - Steiner/Test vs. RVD (Raw) *Let's say in the past 3 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jimbo Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Kinda hard to find ones where the stacked team one, much less one where there is a clear cut winner at all... Most of them are just shitty excuses to have a dumb run in and either a gang attack on one or two guys, or let the underdogs friends save the day and clear the ring... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted November 30, 2003 So again, I state: Can someone track down how many handicap matches were actually won by the 2 (or 3) guys? So far: - Steiner/Test vs. RVD (Raw) *Let's say in the past 3 years. Bashams vs. Chavo - last month Angle/Jericho vs. HHH - Feb. 02 NWO vs. Rock/Austin - Mar. 02 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Well, if we're talking about 3-on-1.......Big Show and the World's Greatest Tag Team beat Brock Lesnar not too long ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Handicap matches don't generally help anyone. The one guy wins. He just buried his opponents because 1 man beat both(or 3) of them. If the side with 2(or 3) men win...big fucking deal..you just beat 1 guy. You should've been able to. The worst offender I think of this was Angle vs. WGTT/Big Show. He pretty much embarassed all 3 of them. It was sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Taker vs. Brock/Big Show is the worst offender - given that Brock and Show were the champions at the time and that Taker kept on beating them. I thought they did Angle vs. Brock/Team Angle pretty smartly, but it certainly did them no favours. Taker vs. Albert/Big Show was a well worked match. Benoit/Brock vs. Angle vs. Team Angle I can't remember very well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Benoit/Brock vs. Angle vs. Team Angle I can't remember very well. It was the match that totally destroyed any interest in the world title feud. Does that refresh your memory? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Benoit/Brock vs. Angle vs. Team Angle I can't remember very well. It was the match that totally destroyed any interest in the world title feud. Does that refresh your memory? The one where Benoit/Brock went over for absolutely no reason...with Benoit getting a tap out to the crossface from one of Team Angle? When it should've been Angle getting the tapout from Brock with the Ankle Lock? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2003 They had a week or two before it totally got ruined Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted December 2, 2003 Benoit/Brock vs. Angle vs. Team Angle I can't remember very well. It was the match that totally destroyed any interest in the world title feud. Does that refresh your memory? The one where Benoit/Brock went over for absolutely no reason...with Benoit getting a tap out to the crossface from one of Team Angle? When it should've been Angle getting the tapout from Brock with the Ankle Lock? Yeah, the show where two guys totally destroyed the world champ and the tag champs for no logical reason because Benoit was immediately depushed and Lesnar was a given to win anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted December 2, 2003 WOW, I would have to agree with almost everyone here as I also feel that handicap matches are pointless. I understand the fact when the "evil GM' does it to the face to get stronger heat, but doesn't almost kill all the heat of the heels in the actual match? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just call me Dan 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2003 HHH/Batista/Orton beat Goldberg 2 weeks ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2003 WOW, I would have to agree with almost everyone here as I also feel that handicap matches are pointless. I understand the fact when the "evil GM' does it to the face to get stronger heat, but doesn't almost kill all the heat of the heels in the actual match? Yeah. One of the major problems I have with WWE booking is that the heels are constantly castrated. The faces have to get their heat back RIGHT AWAY and by the time the blowoff occurs, the face has already looked stronger and the blowoff usually puts the face over anyway. So how can you really be too worried about the faces if they don't look vulnerable for any period of time? When they don't book heels weakly, they usually book them too strongly (HHH). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
