Guest Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye Report post Posted April 10, 2002 yup...which live album just takes you there and makes you feel like you are front row or drags your beaten ass back into the pit...for me: Live Shit: Binge and Purge Nirvana - Unplugged in New York And for some reason I've always had a soft spot in my heart for The Eagles' Hell Freezes Over... I (obviously) dont have much in the way of live stuff so I'm sure y'all can add a lot... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted April 10, 2002 The greatest live album of all time was released by a seminal rock act in the 1970s. It was a huge success commercially and enabled this act to have a long and prosperous career, which continues to this day. I think you all know which album I'm referring to. Ladies and gentlemen, you wanted the best...you got the best! Peter Frampton! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pochorenella Report post Posted April 10, 2002 Ladies and gentlemen, you wanted the best...you got the best! Hey! I know where you stole that from! Kinetic, "Framptom Comes Alive" is a great live album, no doubt, and it held the best-selling live album title for a long time, and it did make Peter's career, although it's no longer as prosperous as it was before. But allow me to differ, a cast my vote to Kiss "Alive!" A mighty album, a disc among discs, perhaps the greatest live Rock album ever. I also made Kiss career, which is still prosperous and has been almost 30 years long. But, hey, that's just my opinion. Peace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted April 10, 2002 It was a joke, anyway. Live albums, by and large, are a lose-lose proposition. Who wants an album full of inferior-sounding versions of songs that they already own? They can be good, but generally they're pretty bad. Peter Frampton is always bad, though, and it disturbs me that you took my statement seriously. I don't listen to any guitarist that talks into a bag--that's my solemn vow to you all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted April 10, 2002 Because, Kinetic, many bands sound better live than they do on CD. To me, Metallica sounds a lot better live, as does Slayer. So I'd buy live Metallica and Slayer albums. As for my favorite live album, I don't own many. But I love S&M, which I seem to be in the minority about, and that live Aerosmith one was great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye Report post Posted April 10, 2002 Kinetic Posted on April 10 2002,13:10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It was a joke, anyway. Live albums, by and large, are a lose-lose proposition. Who wants an album full of inferior-sounding versions of songs that they already own? They can be good, but generally they're pretty bad. Peter Frampton is always bad, though, and it disturbs me that you took my statement seriously. I don't listen to any guitarist that talks into a bag--that's my solemn vow to you all. Live albums are good for 2 things...they can serve to kill bootleggers(somewhat)...and also they can work as a good 'Best Of' cd ie: Pantera's 'Official Live' cd... as long as they put the money into it and kept the sound good... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cartman Report post Posted April 10, 2002 My ALL TIME fav. Live album has to be "Hell Freezes Over" from the Eagles...Every song they did on that album sounded WAY better than any studio recordings BY FAR. Especiallly Hotel California. Second Is definitely S&M from Metallica. ALot of peple dont like this album because they feel it was pussified or whatever cause they played with an orchestra. Well in MY personal opinion this is their best album. They played great, and the prchestra only amplified the performance greatly. Third I hafta mention AC/DC Live as one of my personal fav's even if noone else will probably agree with me that it's a great Live album. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pochorenella Report post Posted April 10, 2002 Well, I agree that sometimes live albums have inferior-sounding versions. An example can be Van Halen's "Live: Right Here Right Now" or Judas Priest "Priest: Live", but for some other bands like Kiss, whose reputation was built on their live shows with their spectacle and great-sounding songs, the live album is a fine translation of their on-stage power and energy that can only be compared to the live experience itself. Frampton's album was good and it made his career. Another example of made-careers could be Cheap Trick's "Live At Budokan", although I've never heard it. Some other acts might certainly suck live and on stage so they won't be releasing live records. I sincerely doubt Britney would ever release one with her awful lip-sync act and her weak-ass voice, not to mention her sappy songs. Some other fine Rock live sets are Iron Maiden's "Live After Death", Scorpions "World Wide Live", and Pink Floyd's "A Momentary Lapse Of Reason." I'm really liking this thread. Peace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted April 10, 2002 Another example of made-careers could be Cheap Trick's "Live At Budokan", although I've never heard it. Isn't the hit version of "I Want You To Want Me" from that album? If so, I give it the thumbs up. Although I've heard through the grapevine that the overdubbery on that particular live album was to the point where it could hardly be considered live. The main problem I have with live albums is that I just don't see the point. If you really wanted to hear the songs live, it'd be a much greater experience to buy a ticket and actually go to the concert. Otherwise, just buy the studio albums. And then some bands stick too closely to the studio versions, so it just sounds like that with some crowd noise thrown in. Other bands go off on incredibly wanky tangents--like ten minute guitar/drum/bass/keyboard solos. That can't be tolerated, either. When it comes right down to it, there are just too many studio albums that I want to get for me to consider buying a live album. I only own one--Radiohead's I Might Be Wrong. It has exactly two strongpoints that convinced me to purchase it: A really pretty reworking of the incomprehensible "Like Spinning Plates" and the only released version of one of their best unreleased songs, "True Love Waits." Other than that, it's inferior sounding versions of previously great songs. This is probably a bad example, but it's all I have to go on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JohnSkins Report post Posted April 10, 2002 I personally believe that the two of the greatest live albums ever are... MC5 - Kick Out the Jams Jimmy Page and the Black Crowes - Live at the Greek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mark4steamboat Report post Posted April 10, 2002 Most pearl jam shows are really good and stores around here carry their concert cds. i got the alice in chains unplugged DVD from Sam Goody the other day and it is awesome. The nirvana unplugged is also one of the best live recordings around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted April 11, 2002 I agree with whoever said the Eagles, Hell Freezes Over is the best. As an Eagles fan nothing was sweeter then them reuniting and putting out one hell of a live cd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted April 11, 2002 Live albums can be either great or bad, depending on the artist. While the majority of pop/rock artists suck live because they play the same version of songs as the album (particularly if they're being recorded for an official album or radio show), so that its basically the exact same album but with applause, there are chance opportunities with these artists and many more opportunities with "jam bands" and more accomplished artists that they really get the opportunity to shine. These moments are almost never captured on official releases however, hence the need for bootlegs. Bootlegs of live performances are a part of musical culture, like them or not. Bootlegs never suffer from overdubs or editing, problems that plague almost every live album ever made. Bootlegs are often the complete show, whereas official live albums are cut and paste tracks from different shows. Finally, whereas there are bootlegs that are slapped together and sold for a quick buck, the majority of bootlegged shows are traded freely amongst fans of a band for no profit, so they would be the least likely to mess it up. As for some good official live albums? Try Santana's "Live at the Fillmore", the Velvet Underground's "bootleg series: The Quine Tapes" and Jill Scott's "Experience: Jill Scott". Phish also has a new series of comprehensive live releases, and don't forget Pearl Jam, who released every show off their last two tours (with the exception of one tragic European festival date, which I can't for the life of me remember, it's right on the tip of my tongue too). Though I don't own any of the Phish or Pearl Jam live albums, given how loyal and appreciative they are of their fan-base, there are little doubts as to the quality (and certainly not the quantity!) of said releases as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted April 11, 2002 The main problem I have with live albums is that I just don't see the point. If you really wanted to hear the songs live, it'd be a much greater experience to buy a ticket and actually go to the concert. Otherwise, just buy the studio albums. And then some bands stick too closely to the studio versions, so it just sounds like that with some crowd noise thrown in. Other bands go off on incredibly wanky tangents--like ten minute guitar/drum/bass/keyboard solos. That can't be tolerated, either. While I agree with you 100% about the majority of bands sticking too closely to studio versions, your comment about just buying a ticket and actually going to a concert puzzles me. The majority of essential live cuts are from artists such as Jimi Hendrix, Santana, Velvet Underground, and the like. These are bands that I would have never been able to see, given as how I was born in 1984 and the performances all took place in the 1960's. How else, then, am I to hear such inspired and talented performances without live albums? Also, as to bands that go off on long jams, to a casual fan such as yourself it no doubt seems absurd, but find one Allman Brothers fan who was pissed about their legendary 30-minute extended live jam of "Tied to the Whipping Post", or fans who hate Dave Matthews Band or Phish jams and impromptu covers. It's going to be difficult, because these are the bands' trademarks, and the fans enjoy them because of these. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ArkhamGlobe Report post Posted April 11, 2002 "Live Rust" Neil Young "Kick out the Jams" MC5 I know I'm forgetting something though... I'll post it later if I think of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheyCallMeMark Report post Posted April 11, 2002 "Live In San Fransico" from Joe Satriani is in my opinion definatly the best live release. Only one song on the very beggining ("Devil's Slide") is inferior to the recorded album version, and seeing as Satriani is a guitar God he tends to really shred in all of the live songs, making them all better than the studio versions at least in that respect. Next is of course Nirvana "Unplugged". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest swan Report post Posted April 11, 2002 "Kick out the Jams" MC5 Nice one. Anything live by Rush usually kicks major ass. Kiss-Alive WASP-Live...In The Raw (Don't ask me why, it just is) What was the live album from a Band of Gypsys(Jimi Hendrix) called? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pochorenella Report post Posted April 12, 2002 Anything live by Rush usually kicks major ass. Kiss-Alive WASP-Live...In The Raw (Don't ask me why, it just is) What was the live album from a Band of Gypsys(Jimi Hendrix) called? Good rocking taste, Swan, my boy. Although Rush's "A Show Of Hands" was a bit dissapointing, and I only like a few WASP songs. Jimi's live album was also called "Band Of Gypsies." Peace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest swan Report post Posted April 12, 2002 I have to give the Ozzy Osbourne/Randy Rhodes Tribute album a first runner up. Ozzy sounds great and Randy just fucking shreds. We really missed out on some great music with the passing of Randy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cdstunner66 Report post Posted April 12, 2002 Gratest Live Albums: 5. U2 - Under a Blood Red Sky - Live at Red Rocks 4. AC/DC - Live (get the extended version if you can) 3. KISS - Alive - just made them and the live version of "Rock Bottom" ownz 2. Guns n Roses - Live Era - most of it was the Paris PPV and the Japan shows that were released as a concert video with some exceptions. Increadible versions of "Estranged" "Paradise City" and "Rocket Queen" 1. Iron Maiden - Live After Death - Greatest - Live - Album -Ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Eric the Eagle Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Live After Death is fucking great, but "Rock in Rio" (their newest) might just give it competition. Dickinson's "Scream for me, Brazil" is also very, very good. I always liked the live tape from Satriani's "Time Machine". W.A.S.P. Live... in the Raw? Hmmm. I've been conciously avoiding it because every live track they put on their studio albums (which absolutely rock) sucks horribly... Maybe I'll have to check it out... And yeah, the Rhodes tribute album is fabulous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whatitistoburn Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Nitpick: The Delicate Sound of Thunder was the live pink floyd cd from the mid80s, and it sucks. If you want a good Pink Floyd live album go with Is There Anybody Out There or Pulse. I also am rather fond on NIN - And All That Could Have Been and Dream Theater - Metropolis 2000: Scenes from new york Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted April 14, 2002 KISS -alive RULES, but my favourite is Morrissey's 'beethoven was deaf'. it's a glorious thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted April 14, 2002 Iron Maiden, Rock in Rio: I just bought this album yesterday, and this is probably the best live album I have. Dream Theater, Live Scenes from New York: Great album all together, and over 3 hours of excellent music. Metallica, S&M: Well its not my favourite, but its very good. Though Master of Puppets and Battery sound pathetic with the symphony, Call of Ktulu, Hero of the Day, Bleeding Me really make S&M better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted April 14, 2002 Unplugged in New York: Nirvana Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BottleRocket Report post Posted April 14, 2002 Ani DiFranco-- Living In Clip The Pietasters-- Strapped Live Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Narcoleptic Jumper Report post Posted April 14, 2002 Tabitha's Secret - Live Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted April 17, 2002 Thin Lizzy's Live and Dangerous is pretty incredible, and in fact i put it on my list in my own thread which i created after my short term memory decided to delete my reading and replying to this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted April 17, 2002 I'd like to throw in Stuck Mojo's HVY1 in the list of "best live albums." Sure, Bonz doesn't sound as good live as he does on the studio, but he's rapping over hardcore/heavy metal riffs written by Rich Ward, who makes even the lamest riffs sound "right." From swan We really missed out on some great music with the passing of Randy. But now we have Zakk Wylde, so all is good for me. Speaking of Zakk Wylde, Black Label Society's Alcohol Fueled Brewtality...Live! also gets the nod for one of the best live albums ever. In the pause between the intro and main riff of "Superterrorizer," Zakk yells out "LIMP BIZKIT SUCKS DICK," and the crowd in the club go fucking "wylde" (sorry, couldn't help but spell it like that). Zakk Wylde is truly the fucking man...each BLS album gets better (I have yet to purchase 1919 Eternal, but I will), and he's written 2 of Ozzy's most memorable songs, "No More Tears" and "Mama I'm Coming Home." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest swan Report post Posted April 18, 2002 But now we have Zakk Wylde, so all is good for me. I didn't mean to cut Zakk short. I can't believe the dude started playing with Ozzy when he was like 18 or 19. It's a trip to look at his photo on the No Rest For The Wicked sleeve. Too funny. I also liked his first "solo" band Pride and Glory. God I have to dig that "tape" out from somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
