Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted April 13, 2002 But Angle is better than Edge, so you are really hurting your company. Right. That's why I partially agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Which means we can hate BOTH Warrior and HHH! Woo Hoo! God Bless America! Can we hate Test too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Austin3164life Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Just wondering Anglesault.....who do you want to see Angle feud with after the Edge feud resolves (at least if it does) ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cataclysm911 Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Angle is a heel. Undertaker is a heel. He isn't cheating like hell. Heel Hunter rarely cheated. Hell Austin cheated, but was still able to fend off midcarders (Spike Dudley) Just because you are a heel doesn't mean you have to be an inept bafoon. Angle won the match In an extremely weak fashion. Was that Edge I saw take an Olympic Slam on the concrete Thursday? Interesting. Was that Edge I saw kciking Angle's ass until jericho amde the save? So, no one should ever be elevated, because we all know that everyone starts out in the main event, and since main eventers should only feud other main eventers... If you destroy one main eventer to make another, you are back where you started. I must have been watching a different show when Triple H kept using them there sledgehammers. He always won clean. I just going to go murder Angle, then see what you say.. actually, it would be easier just to ban you.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Just wondering Anglesault.....who do you want to see Angle feud with after the Edge feud resolves (at least if it does) ? Rocky, but that can't happen. So...uhm... SURGERY! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 13, 2002 I must have been watching a different show when Triple H kept using them there sledgehammers. He always won clean. I just going to go murder Angle, then see what you say.. actually, it would be easier just to ban you.. More often then not, he either won clean or in a convincing fashion. He very rarely had the "feet on the ropes pulling the tights fast count evil ref" wins. I can't recall ONE, but who knows, maybe there was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest One Bad Apple Report post Posted April 13, 2002 The main eventer should beat the midcarder, no questions asked. Then Kurt Angle wouldn't have ever been in the main events. Least until someone from the top retired or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Then Kurt Angle wouldn't have ever been in the main events. Least until someone from the top retired or something. Exactly. But at some point, some main eventer would have had to lose to him. At which point that individual would have been forced to sell concessions at intermission due to their plummeting status in the organization. I think I finally understand Anglesault's reasoning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 13, 2002 You have to remember, Angle never actually beat anyone(Main eventer) until Rocky. But his three or four months just facing (and losing to) mains prior to that made him more viable. Plus, Angle beat rock with a shitload of interference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 13, 2002 It should also be noted that Rocky was made to look very good going into that match. Angle looks like shit going into this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest One Bad Apple Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Sadly, Rock won't be back until June/July. Only 2 more months. I think Hogan is Angle's only chance. Maybe Angle and Jericho can team up for a while. To win the titles? I guess they could feud with Al Snow and Maven or some other team for a while ... but, then again, Al Snow and Maven are filthy midcarders. I guess Hogan and Benoit, then. Eventually, when Hogan and Benoit win, they'll keep fighting Angle and Jericho. If not, then they'll move on to some other superteam and drop the straps to them, since they can't lose it to midcarders. I guess the tag titles will then forever be contested by any main-eventers that form a temporary alliance. Sorry, Al Snow and Maven. This whole thing reeks of Hunter. I'm going to start calling them the "nlHDemotions" Holy shit ... that was fucking funny! Did you come up with that yourself?! If you destroy one main eventer to make another, you are back where you started. If feuds with popular upper-midcarders like Kane and Edge are all it takes to destroy Angle, then he was never really a main-eventer. More often then not, he [Triple H] either won clean or in a convincing fashion. Because was booked as a dominating bad guy. Angle is a whining, egomaniacal coward. That's why he cheats. You're acting like Angle is the only heel in history to be booked like that. He's no different than most of the heels in the WWF. Not only that, but he's an upper-level heel facing upper-level guys. You want another run with him playing "All-American Hero"? 'Cause a face turn is the only thing I can see that'll get him the clean wins you want on a consistent. Undertaker is a heel. He isn't cheating like hell. He's the Undertaker. And he's the exception, not the rule. Hell Austin cheated, but was still able to fend off midcarders (Spike Dudley) Just because you are a heel doesn't mean you have to be an inept bafoon. Spike Dudley is nowhere near Edge's level. You have to remember, Angle never actually beat anyone(Main eventer) until Rocky. But he still beat him, you idiot. You said that main-eventers should not lose to midcarders. Rock, the main-eventer, lost to Angle. Kurt was not a main-eventer at the time, thus making him a midcarder. Wait, I'll make this better. BUT HE STILL BEAT HIM, YOU IDIOT. YOU SAID THAT MAIN-EVENTERS SHOULD NOT LOSE TO MIDCARDERS. ROCK, THE MAIN-EVENTER, LOST TO ANGLE. KURT WAS NOT A MAIN-EVENTER AT THE TIME, THUS MAKING HIM A MIDCARDER. Plus, Angle beat rock with a shitload of interference. Angle was a heel. But his three or four months just facing (and losing to) mains prior to that made him more viable. Edge has been beating up Kurt Angle and Jericho, both inside and outside the ring. Yeah, not for as long ... but he's been making them tap and picking up pinfalls. That makes him look extremely viable. Hopefully your response won't be, "And that makes Kurt look like a coward." But I can't see anything else. That Edge looking viable shouldn't be what happens, though, right? I mean, if they had to do this feud, Kurt should've just kicked Edge's ass at every turn, and then he could crush him in under three minutes at Backlash. After seeing Edge stomped into the ground like that, I know the fans will really get behind him. Meanwhile, Kurt can go on to feud with Hogan or Triple H. Then Edge will get even more over when the guy who junked him is back to running away and crying and exposing his ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Why couldn't Angle and Jericho be booked as cocky heels that could back it up like Hunter was? Why did they have to be Honky Champs? Holy shit ... that was fucking funny! Did you come up with that yourself?! Yeah, Kind of like idiot-fag! He's the Undertaker. And he's the exception, not the rule. I thought Hunter was? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Holy shit ... that was fucking funny! Did you come up with that yourself?! Yeah, Kind of like idiot-fag! lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest One Bad Apple Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Holy shit ... that was fucking funny! Did you come up with that yourself?! Yeah, Kind of like idiot-fag! You keep on believing I mean that to be taken at face value. I guess you truly are ... an idiot-fag. Now go ahead and tell me nlHhDemotions wasn't serious. I thought Hunter was? Maybe I should have said, "Guys like him are the exception, not the rule." Would that make it better? Why couldn't Angle and Jericho be booked as cocky heels that could back it up like Hunter was? Why did they have to be Honky Champs? How should I know? The heel personas for the characters have already been established, anyway. Angle has been like this since he came in, so I don't see the sense in continuing to complain about him looking weak. They could change 'em, sure. All it'd take would be some time. Frankly, though ... I don't think it'd be worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfdogg Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Plus, Angle beat rock with a shitload of interference. Who DOESN'T beat Rock with a shitload of interference? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted April 13, 2002 "Who DOESN'T beat Rock with a shitload of interference?" Kurt Angle at Armageddon 2000 for one. Along with HHH, Benoit, Hogan, Austin, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfdogg Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Yeah, ANGLE got the pin after AUSTIN'S stunner. So there's Austin's clean win. HHH never beat him clean. Benoit never beat him clean. Hogan got him on RAW, so there's two since his RAW match with UT in 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cataclysm911 Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Hogan got him on RAW, so there's two since his RAW match with UT in 2000. That was a tag match though. I'm sure it has cheating going on somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 13, 2002 You have to give credit to Rock though. He does job a lot for a main eventer. As for HHH, I predict he holds the title until SummerSlam, drops it, and wins it back at Unforgiven [Just like Backlash-Judgment Day 2000], just so he can try to trick us into thinking he doesn't have backstage power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfdogg Report post Posted April 13, 2002 You have to give credit to Rock though. He does job a lot for a main eventer. Agreed. He is like Angle, except all of Angle's jobs are clean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 13, 2002 You have to give credit to Rock though. He does job a lot for a main eventer. Agreed. He is like Angle, except all of Angle's jobs are clean. And it's killing Kurt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfdogg Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Exactly. Question is, will he ever recover if he has to do another one for Edge? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted April 13, 2002 If Angle is getting killed, why does he always get prime mic time and the most heat of any wrestler in the WWF? The fans sure as hell don't care about his win/loss record when he comes out to the ring. I bet 99% of the guys in pro wrestling would gladly do jobs like Angle if it meant they were as over as he is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Maybe the question should be "If he's this over, why does he do all these clean jobs?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfdogg Report post Posted April 13, 2002 I think the question is: If he's always getting prime mic time and the most heat of any wrestler in the WWF, why is he getting killed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Yeah! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Survey Says: HHH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted April 13, 2002 (Louie Anderson Voice): Let's see Triple H! *Ding* ::The number one square turns to reveal Hunter as the number one choice:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the living legend Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Angle will most likely go over Edge but Edge will get protected with interference or something so it means nothing. Angle and jericho really deserve to be treated better they shouldn't have to be comedy acts. The WWF can't build a strong heel unless that heel seems to write all his own programs (no names needed) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tha Cunnysmythe Report post Posted April 13, 2002 Jesus, this thread is stupid. This has all been seen before. Only three or four people seem to see that Triple H doesn't run the WWF. Does he have influence? Yes. But that doesn't mean he buries everybody's careers. Kaientai are jobbers, though they were getting over with the 'INDEED' gimmick. OMG HHH IS KILLLING THER HEET POLITICAL BASTARD!!1!@!!!!! I grow tired of seeing this crap. This is why I go to [blatent Pimpery] WDI [/blatent Pimpery], and threads like this are why Anglesault was banned from there. Jai Hind! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
