Nfl draft

[Guest Vern Gagne]

It's a week away. What do you see your team doing.

 

A few things I'd like to mention is the Coverage on ESPN. First of all fire Chris Berman, and Joe Theisman. If Mel Kiper goes back to being the critical analyst he used to be (the Treav Alberts incident) keep him, but if praises every pick than dump him. Berman is just a fatass Fred Flinstone, and Theisman is blowhard who suddenly knows all about college players.

[Guest]

The Falcons will screw up. They always do. Michael Vick, I'm not sure about, yet. He's young, but he better grow up on the field and come of age in his ability.

 

TSN's critique of Dusty Bonner~! annoyed me in one aspect. They said Bonner's lack of size really hurt him, but yet, about half the quarterbacks higher up on the prospect list were smaller than him.

 

Somebody better draft Bonner. He's a quarterback, not one of these guys who double as  halfbacks. Running quarterbacks don't seem to make it very long (still waiting to see how long Kordell can make it).

 

Chester Taylor and the guy from Boston College might be the best runningbacks in the draft.

 

Even though he's a year away from the draft, I'll go ahead and mention it. Champ Bailey's brother, Boss, is the last Bailey. Saw their high school's roster this year and there wasn't any playing for them. Which may mean that their high school will go back to being a sorry athletic school and mine will have a chance against them someday.

[Guest El Satanico]

My team is Cleveland and they seem to be leaning towards TJ Duckett if they don't move up. There's been rumors of them trying to move up to go after one of the top offensive tackles.

 

I'm not totally sold on TJ Duckett. I'm not sold on him being one of the top rbs but he has an ungodly size to speed ratio that makes it damn near impossible to pass on him. So i'd reckon it's down to William Green and TJ Duckett and Duckett wins the battle just because of his size that goes with his speed.

 

I think we'd be better off going offensive line in the first two rounds this year. I'd like to see them totally revamp the offensive line and giving our currents rbs another chance behind a decent oline. Then if they still don't play well enough we would go after one of the top rbs in the draft next year.

 

However if they stay at #16 we would be down to the second tier oline tackles like Levi Jones and Mike Pearson. And while they may good we could probably get someone just as good in the second round. So if they stay at 16 they will most likely take the most talented player that fits into one of the team needs. The players that we would most likely take will be one of the following...

 

TJ Duckett, Ed Reed, Jeremy Shockey, Levi Jones or a DT if there's still a top one left.

[Guest Kingpk]

I follow the Pats, so it really depends on wether or not a deal for Bledsoe happens before draft day.  If it does, and they get a top 15 pick, I'd like them to perhaps get a good offensive lineman since that unit is probably the biggest hole on the team.  

 

If not, and they pick 32, I think the term "best player available" is applicable here.

[Guest Human Fly]

Well, my team is the Bengals so I try not to get too excited about the draft (David Klingler, Ki-Jana Carter, Dan Wilkinson, Akili Smith, etc.) but I can't help it.

 

Here's the way I see the Bengals going (if anyone cares). If Joey Harrington is on the they should take him. He's too good to pass up. I also see the possibility of taking CB Phillip Buchanon out of Miami, or S Roy Williams out of Oklahoma. Either of those picks would help us shore up an already good defense (9th in NFL). TE Jeremy Shockey out of Miami is also a possibility. But if we're going to take him I'd like to see us try and trade down to the 14 - 15 pick where I still believe he would be available. Also, if Harrington is available at ten I could see us trading down and letting somebody else grab him. This is the first draft in a long time I have no clue what we're going to do. It should be good.

[Guest]

Being from Charlotte, I'm sure no one wants to read about my assessment of just the Panthers so I figure I'll list the top five picks here.

 

1.Texans- David Carr.  

 

2.Panthers- Tough choice.  The majority of the "experts" have Peppers going here, and he doesn have a lot going for him.  Best rusher in the draft, one of the best in the past 5 years.. and he's the hometown hero.  However, Quentin Jammer, the CB from Texas is also a real possibility.  Their starting CB, Rashard Anderson, will miss 6 weeks, leaving them with Terry Cousin (a decent 3rd CB last year) and someone else that I honestly can't remember.  Jammer and Anderson would be a very young, yet formidable duo.  It'll be close, but Peppers is the pick.

 

3. Lions- Desperately need a CB, so Jammer is the easy pick.  If the Panthers surprise them and take Jammer, Buchanon or Peppers will be taken.

 

4. Bills- Van Pelt is not the answer at QB.  So they pick Harrington.

 

5. Chargers- Need a Guard more than a Tackle, but there isn't a guard good enough to justify taking him this early.  I think they pass on McKinnie, and go with Mike Williams.

[Guest Bosstones Fan]

I think the Texans could be making a big mistake in drafting David Carr.   He played against lesser competition in college (the WAC sucks, people), and was only a starter for two years while he was there.  If they're going to go QB with the first pick (which they should), the Texans ought to draft Joey Harrington simply because he's the better player of the two.  

 

I can't shake the feeling that Carr has kind of a Rick Mirer-ish vibe about him....

[Guest El Hijo Del Lunatic]

Finally, I get time to do some posting.

 

Well, my beloved Redskins (and, of course, by beloved I mean blind, drunk and half-retarded) are going to have to take a hard look at trading down.  They really can't afford to take on a first-round salary (especially if they're going to throw their hat into "the Great Jeremiah Trotter Lottery", which they should), and they can address their needs in the second round if they so choose.  

 

They need a middle linebacker, defensive tackle, offensive guard, wide receiver, and, of course, quarterback.  They seem to be in complete denial about their offensive skill positions, so it doesn't look like they'll spend a first-rounder on one of them unless, by some miracle, Joey Harrington drops to #18 (and even then, maybe not).  Their penchant for wide receivers with attitudes continues, as I see them jumping all over Antonio Bryant in round 2.  If they get a shot at one fo the three big DTs in this draft, I'll be a bit surprised, but Wendell Bryant might hang around.  That's probably their best pick.  If that falls through, they take best available.  

 

The Redskins are a team that has drafted ridiculously well in the past few years (Jon Jansen, Stephen Davis, Champ Bailey, Fred Smoot, LaVar Arrington, and Rod Gardner are an amazing core of guys to build on, all drafted in the past five years), but this year might be the exception.  They aren't wheeling, they aren't dealing, and there's no one with the "sex appeal" that the Redskins seem to covet.  At least, no one they'll have a genuine shot at.

 

Not that it matters.  The Redskins have done this offseason what they've done all throughout the Snyder Era thus far:  fail to address needs, instead opting to "upgrade" positions that don't need upgrading - or "upgrading" positions by signing free agents that aren't an upgrade.  Jesse Armstead over Shawn Barber?  Yeah, but Barber's a cheaper, better coverage LB when healthy.  Renaldo Wynn over Kenard Lang?  Sure, but you've still got a defensive end playing DT.  Danny Wuerrfel over Tony Banks?  Why not just shimmy your pants down and bend over now?  Jacquez Green over Michael Westbrook?  When has Green ever shown himself to be anything but a glorified #3 speedburner that gets thrown to a lot?  And now I hear the Redskins want to dump Sam Shade (underrated control blitzer who's the lone bright spot in terms of run defense), but they're content with Kevin Mitchell (glorified special teamer) at MLB.  UGH.

 

EIGHT and EIGHT.  AGAIN.  That's all I'll say.

 

LUNATIC

I'm kicking it old-school.

[Guest]

I think the Texans could be making a big mistake in drafting David Carr.   He played against lesser competition in college (the WAC sucks, people), and was only a starter for two years while he was there.  If they're going to go QB with the first pick (which they should), the Texans ought to draft Joey Harrington simply because he's the better player of the two.  

 

I can't shake the feeling that Carr has kind of a Rick Mirer-ish vibe about him....

Carr is definitely a higher risk, and I think Harrington could easily be a better NFL player.  High risk, high reward though.  If they don't take Carr, they might regret it for a long long time.  I don't think Harrington will dominate, and I think that Carr has the potential [/i] to.

[Guest Will Scarlet]

Well, I follow the Lions, and I cannot say I am looking forward to this draft.  From what I have read, the Lions are torn between Joey Harrington, Quentin Jammer, or some safety whose name escapes me.  Either way, I cannot say I am too excited about who they draft.  

 

Harrington seems like a perfectly good quarterback who did very well in the games I saw him play, but, being a Lions fan, I have the worst feeling that Harrington will be a bust just like Andre Ware, if the Lions draft him.  Jammer seems to be a safer pick, as he feels a need, but, as a Lions fan, I think he will probably end up like a lot of players on the Lions defense, basically being a guy who is solid, even making a few Pro Bowls here and there, but is hardly a guy who comes to mind when comparing the greatest in the league at his position.

 

My hope: Whoever the Lions draft will be a superstar player and one who actually helps lead to Lions to victories.  

 

My reality: Whoever the Lions draft will either be a bust, or just another guy in a Lions uniform.

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

I see my team waiting for a while.  The Dolphins 1st pick is the #90 overall selection (late in the 3rd round).  Hope Wanstedt does his homework...

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

The draft is tomorrow.

 

Any bold predictions?

 

What IS Detroit going to do?  

 

I doubt they know.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

What IS Detroit going to do?  

 

Probably draft a dead guy or something.

[Guest]

The draft is tomorrow.

 

Any bold predictions?

 

What IS Detroit going to do?  

 

I doubt they know.

I don't know if I'd call any of these upsets, but here are some of my picks of guys projected to go anywhere from 3rd overall to 20th overall (in terms of sports magazines and such.)

 

I expect Dallas to attempt to move up to #3 in order to take Jammer.  If this happens, and Lions move to 6th, they'll take Harrington

 

Carr-Texans

Peppers-Panthers

Jammer-Cowboys*(trade)

Mike Williams-Bills

Chargers- McKinnie

Lions-Harrington*

Vikings-Ryan Sims

Chiefs- Donte Stallworth

Jags-Haynesworth

Bengals- Philip Buchanon

Colts- Roy Williams

Cardinals- Napolean Harris

Saints- Charles Grant

Titans- Ashley Lelie

Giants- Shockey

 

Thats how I have my top 15 for ESPN.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

The Lions took Harrington.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Well, I see the Bengals are still good for a laugh.

[Guest razazteca]

the Cowboys get Roy Williams from Okahoma which should help sell tickets since Dallas is basically Southern Okahoma as joked about in King of the Hill.

 

Last season the big hype for selling tickets was Emmit Smith going after the record books which did not live up to hype.  Now if the Cowboys can decide who the QB will be this season, they might have a shot at a 8-8 season.

[Guest hardyz1]

I've never been a Steelers fan, but any team that drafts Antwaan Randle El is OK in my book.

[Guest]

Quite odd that Alex Brown is still on the draft board.

 

And I considered Josh Reed a heckuva lot better than he was picked.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

As a Bills fan...

 

The Josh Reed pick is 2 things to me.

 

#1:  A great value pick on a receiver who can develop into everything that Peerless Price didn't.  Moulds and Reed...I like it.

 

#2: um...we need a defense too.

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

The Falcons will screw up. They always do. Michael Vick, I'm not sure about, yet. He's young, but he better grow up on the field and come of age in his ability.

 

I don't understand why you would leave college early if you weren't ready for the NFL. I understand that there are other factors in the decision other than whether you are ready or not. Some players may want the money or just don't want to stay in school anymore. However, why would you leave college under the pretense that you were ready for the NFL, only to sit on the bench?

[Guest the pinjockey]

As an Eagles fan I can not say that I am thrillled with this draft.  Using your first three picks in the area you are best at is overkill.  I like the Lito Sheppard pick I like any cornerback that goes his college career w/o allowing a TD.  But using two 2nd rounders when you have 6 upper level DBs is ridiculous:

 

Troy Vincent

Bobby Taylor

Al Harris

Lito Sheppard

Blaine Bishop

Brian Dawkins

 

I was screming at my TV for Reid to pull the trigger on Antonio Bryant and Alex Brown with their back-to-back 2nd rounders but no.  Brian Westbrook I like.  He is a local product who they picked a bit early but nothing major.  It will be good pub taking a local prospect from 'Nova.  After missing Bryant I was begging for them to trade up in the 4th and take Ron Johnson from Minn. but no Reid is a wuss.  The other players I don't have a clue about so I won't comment until I see them.  

 

Overall grade for the Eagles: C+

 

I gotta give the Cowboys credit (ugh..the hurts to say) for having the best draft I can remember in recent history.

[Guest phoenixrising]

I have to say that I liked the Jaguars first two picks.  Kiper and the other commentators were kinda criticizing them for taking Henderson at #9 (not as much as they were bashing Cincy though), but I like the pick.  Henderson dropped on draft boards mostly because his production was off from his 2001 Outland Trophy season, which was understandable because he played the year with a bad ankle.  I'd rather have Henderson over Haynesworth at this point in time, because Henderson will be more able to step in and contribute right away.  I think Coughlin and the Jags learned after taking Marcus Stroud last year with their first pick and didn't get much out of him.  

 

Mike Pearson in the 2nd was another need pick, the Jags need a new tackle to protect Brunell.  Pearson was at one point in time the third rated tackle, but dropped down the board.  Mo Williams stepped in and started right away last year, if Pearson can do the same the Jags will have bookends on the line for a long time to come.

 

Ayodele will either provide depth at defensive end or compete for the vacant outside backer spot vacated by Hardy.  I'm still wondering why they took Garrard in the fourth...Brunell still is going strong but I guess the Jags want to have a QB behind him...Garrard has raw talent but no polish and is a project.  I would have liked to see the Jags take a reciever somewhere other than the seventh round to put opposite Jimmy Smith though.  Probably a corner or safety too, since they are rather weak in that area as well.

[Guest El Satanico]

As an Eagles fan I can not say that I am thrillled with this draft.  Using your first three picks in the area you are best at is overkill.  I like the Lito Sheppard pick I like any cornerback that goes his college career w/o allowing a TD.  But using two 2nd rounders when you have 6 upper level DBs is ridiculous:

 

They are stocking up to stop the Rams who could be the team between the Eagles and Superbowl. Eagles don't have many big needs and of their needs there was no one really with much value at those positions when they picked. So if there wasn't a stud at a need position it was smart to get the tools they will need to stop the Rams.

 

Teams will now take after the Patriots and throw a shit load of corners and safeties at the Rams.

 

And do you honestly think they need more young recievers?They need to teach the young receivers they already have. Throwing more youth that needs to be refined into the mix won't make them better. Besides screw Antonio Bryant and Ron Johnson...Marquis Walker from Michigan will be the steal at WR. Mark my words he will be yet another "he's too slow" steal...i mean shit the guy catches everything.

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

Stocking up is also good for making trades with teams that are defficient in the area that you have a surplus of talent in.