Invasion angle

[Guest Your Olympic Hero]

Do you think if Triple-H and Chris Benoit weren't injured during the Invasion, then maybe it wouldn't have been quite as bad?

[Guest RickyChosyu]

No, it probably wouldn't have been as bad, partly because of their ring-work, but mainly because Hunter could have kept his damn girlfriend out of the angle before it got out of hand. Yeesh.

[Guest]

If Beniot and Trips werent injured yes the in ring work would have been better. I would of liked to have seen Beniot Rejoin WCW. The main evnt for Invasion If there were no injuries should have been Team Alliance: Chris Beniot, Rob Van Dam, Booker T, DDP, Rhyno VS Team WWF: Triple H, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Chris Jericho, The Undertaker and Kane. that would have been better and vince should have brought out all of the WCW wrestlers contracts.

[Guest mastermind]

Nah, Vince still would have buried wcw.

[Guest Mole]

Knowing Vince, he probably would of killed WCW no matter what...

[Guest FakeRazor]

Crappy booking, retarded angles, and lack of picking up the BIG names killed Invasion.  There's no way in hell either Triple H or Benoit could have saved something that was booked so crappily.

 

Involving Stephanie and Shane didn't help either... making Invasion another family feud angle.  Ego strokes for all the McMahons!

[Guest]

The Invasion would of probably been worst if Triple H was around. Triple H & Steph were still on good terms Storyline wise. So, if Steph owned ECW then that would of meant that Triple H was part owner also. UGH!!!!

 

HHH & Austin still would of been the Two Man Power Trip over ECW & WcW.

[Guest]

If Trips wasn't injured, there's no saying that Stephanie WOULD have been the ECW owner then. They were grasping for a way to have Stephanie on TV, that much is blatantly obvious, so if Trips was there and she could leech off him, then there was no need to put her up there.

 

Now it still might've happened, but what the hell was so bad with the Power Trip? Aside from Austin looking too much like a bitch, I enjoyed it thoroughly. Just have the hilariously paranoid Austin/Triple H combo, instead of the lil bitch Austin/Triple H one. And hey, it probably would've kept Steph off the mic, or at least a lot LESS than she was.

[Guest]

I don't have a problem with the "Two Man Power" trip before Triple H got hurt. My Problem would of been that both of them would of been the main focus of the Alliance during the Invasion angle if HHH didn't get hurt.

[Guest]

Instead of Austin/Stephanie being the focus?

[Guest]

Right! It would of been just one more WWf person taking the spot light from the actual WcW & ECW guys.

[Guest Your Olympic Hero]

I also forgot that The Rock wasn't around during atleast the first couple of months of the Invasion... he should have turned heel.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

The cause of the Invasion's downfall wasn't the lack of match quality, or the lack of big names.  It was the fact the WCW wrestlers ALWAYS lost.  When the 2nd Biggest Name (DDP) jobs to the wife of a fourth rate face, there is bound to be problems.

[Guest The Man in Blak]

The cause of the Invasion's downfall wasn't the lack of match quality, or the lack of big names.  It was the fact the WCW wrestlers ALWAYS lost.  When the 2nd Biggest Name (DDP) jobs to the wife of a fourth rate face, there is bound to be problems.

And the fact in itself that DDP was one of the bigger names wasn't exactly that great either, when the nWo, Goldberg, Flair, and Steiner could have been on the horizon.

 

If anything, having Benoit and Triple H probably would have pushed even more of the WCW guys out of the limelight, as Benoit and Triple H would have had their spots in programming that would have precluded trying to get any WCW talent over.

[Guest Just call me Dan]

The main problem with the whole Invasion was the lack of dream match feel to it.

 

Having Benoit and Triple H there would have made it just as stale because you would have just had more guys you've been seeing simply swap sides and fight for WCW.

BORING.

 

Who gave a crap about Austin, Angle switching sides, etc.

Everyone wanted to see new faces in big programs.

 

Injuries hurt it slightly, because I think Steiner could've been worked in rather quickly, giving the side one more top teir name.

 

That inagural bral could have been Booker T, Scott Stiener, DDP, Rob Van Dam and Rhyno ( ECW's top teir) versus WWF's guys.

 

No switching sides and no burying the talent would have went a long way.

 

Vince killed it and there is no other way around it.

DDP should still be up there in the ranks, Booker T should be there also, RVD should have gotten this push from the get-go, and so should Rhyno.  These guys were established, and just because they weren't on WWF TV, they were in need of paying dues.

 

Bullshit: Fresh faces and shaken up storylines are good things.  Look at Lesnar's huge following already.  If someone can get over, let them.

 

The Invasion, even with it's roster, could have been big, and this split could have gone smoother. Everything should be running incredibly smooth for the McMahons right now, but their egos got in the way.  

 

It's their own fault the Invasion tanked.

[Guest Rick001]

The fans killed the invasion angle feeling the need to boo all the alliance member just becuase they where alliance.  If the fans where smarter the invasion might have been alittle better

[Guest gwf0704]

Invasion failed because McMahon decided to combine WCW and ECW into the invasion angle.  If it was only one of the groups, like ECW, coming into the ring and disrupting matches, then it would have worked.  Imagine having ECW marching into the ring and just calling out the WWF as they did in the 90's where Lawler claimed RVD was Mr Monday Night.  I'm guessing it would have been Bubba and D-Von, RVD, Raven and Tazz/or Tajiri vs SCSA, Angle, Jericho, Kane and UT.  Doesn't mean ECW would have won, but it would have made for a more interesting David v Goliath storyline.

[Guest TheMikeSC]

Invasion failed because McMahon decided to combine WCW and ECW into the invasion angle.  If it was only one of the groups, like ECW, coming into the ring and disrupting matches, then it would have worked.  Imagine having ECW marching into the ring and just calling out the WWF as they did in the 90's where Lawler claimed RVD was Mr Monday Night.  I'm guessing it would have been Bubba and D-Von, RVD, Raven and Tazz/or Tajiri vs SCSA, Angle, Jericho, Kane and UT.  Doesn't mean ECW would have won, but it would have made for a more interesting David v Goliath storyline. >>>

 

 

They couldn't do it. WWF has no rights to the ECW name (still don't) and if the bankruptcy court ruled that the rights to the name ECW didn't belong to the WWF (I believe they went to Akklaim, but I could be way off on that), then the WWF would've had to pay Akklaim/Amadeus an bscene amount of money for licensing of the name.

                   -=Mike

[Guest Caliban]

Invasion sucked because it was completly rushed.

 

Imagine how different it would have been if it had been held off until last January. Hall, Nash, Flair and Hogan would have all been on board, and the WCW side would have had 10 times the credibility.

 

And if Hogan vs Rock pulled a rumored record buyrate... imagine what it would have been like if it had been promoted as WWF vs WCW.

[Guest alfdogg]

UT is at fault for the failed invasion, IMO.  He refused to job to DDP right from the get-go, and he wasn't even getting on TV after Summerslam.  He should have, at the very least, jobbed to Booker T.  And it wouldn't even have to have been clean...I mean, who thinks Booker going over UT there WOULDN'T have drawn heat for him?

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

It came alive and died in the same night for me. When the ECW faction came forth, I was marking out. When Stephanie came out, I was brought down to earth again.

[Guest Jericholic82]

but when wwf and wcw teamed up to fight ecw you know there would be a swerve..or at least I did

 

what they shoulda done was get a timeslot for wcw (screw TNN, maybe they coulda worked a deal with USA? to make it look truly like it was a seperate company)  but they couldnt sign all the stars cuz they had their huge guranteed money.  only booker and ddp had the guts to dump the cash so they could wrestle.  anyways if they kept them seperated till early this year, we woulda had the dream wcw vs wwf feud.

 

and yea is also made me mad how fans had to boo the alliance, that shows you that there are more marks out there then we realize.

[Guest]

Not to mention the pretty bad Invasion PPV itself, which seemed like a good Raw to me, with one title match in 10. The part that buried it (Forget the subpar show) was where they kept count of how many wins each side had. It made WCW/ECW look really weak, especially since they had to win the whole PPV by having a WWF guy help them in the main event. (Though that ten man tag is one of the best ever, in my opinion) Not to mention the alliance wins throughout the show were via cheating or some sort of screw over, so they were buried from the begining.