Give someone a new finisher

[Guest eiker_ir]

the burning hammer i think is a DVD but with the guy facing up:D

[Guest Dace59]

I always thought wrestlers should do test to see if they can do high risk moves in swimming pools to see if they can do then.

 

Jericho was trying it into a swiming pool when he broke his arm.

 

Has'nt Austin been Last Rided before though?

NO!!!!

 

Kane's new finisher. BURNING HAMMER!!! The Inverted DVD that Mosh used to do. It's in WWF No Mercy.

Mosh flipped them over and landed as a pancake, the BH is a brutal ( AND WORLD WIDE BANNED! ) head drop, it's an Inverted DVD (inverted fireman's carry to side inverted brainbuster)

 

Give Justin Credible the ORANGE BOMB!!! A Vertical suplex into a powerbomb

Like he could get that on most people.

[Guest Ace309]

I'd love to see Brock use the Endless Powerbomb as a regular finisher. He's strong enough to do at least 5 or 6.

 

Lance Storm's got a beautiful back-arch... I'd like to see him use the Sharpshooter and the Dragon Suplex as his finishers.

[Guest Dace59]

Storm - Dragon Suplex as his finisher.

Problem with that is the head bumps rule... and safe dragon suplexes (loose full nelson, throw opp. right over onto stomach) look shit.

And anyway, a persons shoulders can't be down for a Dragon Suplex hold, so it always looks really bad to me.

[Guest Dace59]

Oh, and whoever want'd to know what a Cannonball buster was:

It's an inverted T-bone, from No Mercy under the name Cannon Ball Buster

Stand behind opp, hook one arm round head, other between legs, lift opp up, and turn towards you, slam down onto back like a powerbomb.

[Guest Human Fly]

A top-rope jackhammer for Lance Storm could be pretty good. I've always thought the jackhammer by itself was a pretty good move, from the top-rope it could be awesome.

[Guest Dace59]

Top Rock Jackhammer:

Dean Malenko used to do that back in Japan.

[Guest Austin3164life]

I think Austin should return back to the days where he used to just grab people and give them Stunners, whereas now we have the quick KICK WHAM STUNNER.  Either that, or maybe he should really kick them viciously like he used to in early 97, flip them off and then Stun them.  If he took more time to execute the Stunner it would look more devastating....

[Guest Zack Malibu]

Kane-Chokeslam into Sitout powerbomb (Miracle Ecstasy, used by either Funaki or Teioh in Japan, not sure which one)

 

Lance Storm-Tiger Bomb

 

Credible-Buff Blockbuster

 

Big Show-Fire Thunder Driver (pretty sure that's the actual name...it's the version of the Michonoku Driver that Rikishi used to use)

 

Bradshaw-Burning Hammer

[Guest Just call me Dan]

I really enjoy simple yet awesome impact finsihers like

Test's boot or Bradshaw's Clothesline, but then again others like Jericho's lionsault, Rock's elbow and Hogan's legdrop are pathetic.

[Guest Dace59]

Miracle Ecstasy - Teioh in Japan

 

Big Show-Fire Thunder Driver (pretty sure that's the actual name...it's the version of the Michonoku Driver that Rikishi used to use)

 

Nope, it's not, and Rikish didn't do it, he did a stalling possing fake (as in no bump) inverted piledriver

FTD is a cradle inverted piledriver (or sit out cradle tombstone)

 

Bradshaw-Burning Hammer

Please read all aobe stuff about the BH.

[Guest Rick001]

In WCW Booker T had several finishers/signature moves

 

Harlem Hangover

The Heat Seeker

Gheto Blaster

Harlem Sidekick

Bookend

 

I LIKE the Gheto Blaster but the WWF saw if fit to downgrade it and the idiot fans see it fit to boo the Bookend whenever it's performed

 

Edge needs the downward spiral back and he needs to get rid of the Edge-o-cution

 

Storm should keep the Mapleleaf and the Superkick but put in a new Submission finisher (just not the Sharpshooter) and new high risk finisher (someone said in this post he did a Top Rope spinning heel kick) in his arsenal

 

Eddie Guerro needs to get rid of his Frogsplash (lets face it RVD does a better one) and use the Lasso From El Paso more (he used that once before he was suspended for his addiction to pain killers)

 

Get rid of Big Shows Show Stopper and give him the Final Cut as a finisher.

 

Give Polumbo a finisher that is not a superkick for the love of god.

 

Give Tajiri his double stomp from the top rope back

[Guest Zack Malibu]

Billy/Chuck should do a powerbomb/neckbreaker combo

 

Call it the "Kiss Off" or something to go with the gayness.

[Guest Dace59]

Billy/Chuck should do a powerbomb/neckbreaker combo

 

Ohhh.. the neckb snapping sickness, leave it for Kanyon and Raven.

 

Get rid of Big Shows Show Stopper and give him the Final Cut as a finisher.

It's Helm's move, and TBS sucked balls doing it.

 

Eddie Guerro needs use the Lasso From El Paso.

Love that move from the old days.

[Guest saturnmark4life]

Much as i love the burning hammer, i wouldn't let kane do it. And i'd NEVER change the stunner, i still think it's the perfect finisher for american TV. I can't see Austin getting the pin with anything else and getting it over. dge should do his forward electric chair drop when he can, that's the best move he's got, even if he can't use it on everybody. i'm tiring of the Angle Slam, i think Kurt could do with a new pinfall finisher.

[Guest evenflowDDT]

I think Austin should return back to the days where he used to just grab people and give them Stunners, whereas now we have the quick KICK WHAM STUNNER.  Either that, or maybe he should really kick them viciously like he used to in early 97, flip them off and then Stun them.  If he took more time to execute the Stunner it would look more devastating....

Yea, I mean something like this... don't get rid of the Stunner, I mean without the Stunner Stone Cold is nothing.  Just change it, find a way to make it interesting.  How about give him another move, perhaps? Keep the Stunner for interviews and junk like that, just give him another, better move for a finisher, or make the Stunner look like it means something.  And yes, the fact that he does it so often and makes it look so "easy" is a bad thing, as he makes it look like an average, everyday wrestling move, instead of a devastating maneuver.

[Guest Cataclysm911]

I think Austin should return back to the days where he used to just grab people and give them Stunners, whereas now we have the quick KICK WHAM STUNNER.  Either that, or maybe he should really kick them viciously like he used to in early 97, flip them off and then Stun them.  If he took more time to execute the Stunner it would look more devastating....

Yea, I mean something like this... don't get rid of the Stunner, I mean without the Stunner Stone Cold is nothing.  Just change it, find a way to make it interesting.  How about give him another move, perhaps? Keep the Stunner for interviews and junk like that, just give him another, better move for a finisher, or make the Stunner look like it means something.  And yes, the fact that he does it so often and makes it look so "easy" is a bad thing, as he makes it look like an average, everyday wrestling move, instead of a devastating maneuver.

How about Austin just incorporate psychology into his match and actually work over his opponents neck?

[Guest CoreyLazarus416]

Have Austin take a note from Mikey Whipwreck and hit the Stunner from as many angles as DDP used to hit Diamond Cutters. I'd mark-out if I saw Hall pick Austin up for a Razor's Edge, but Austin twisted out of it and lands with Hall in a perfect Stunner. I think Austin did something similar once, maybe to Faarooq...like, when he first started using it. Faarooq went for a hip-toss, or something, and Austin caught Faarooq's head and delivered a Stunner.

 

That just reminded me of the Stunner Austin gave to Faarooq on top of his Austin 3:16 pick-up...aw, how I loved Austin then...

 

I'd let Bradshaw keep the Clothesline From Hell, only bring back his powerbomb as well. And don't make the Clothesline From Hell so obvious to see coming. Have somebody, say Hall (again), go for a Fallaway Slam, Bradshaw hovers over Hall's shoulders (he can do it, all he'd need is a small boost), Hall turns around and BAM! Clothesline From Hell. It's best when Bradshaw falls down forward to one knee with it, and the person acts as if it broke their neck.

 

Give Kane a fireman's carry-to-spinebuster finish. Evan Karagias used to do it in WCW in its dying days, and it was one of the few moves he did good every time (only other move I can think of that he did good almost every time was the 450 Splash). With Kane's added height, and the fact that he could really WHIP the person to ground...niceness.

 

Lasso From El Passo...sounds familiar, but I can't put the move to the name...Dace, please describe.

[Guest]

Give Tajiri his double stomp from the top rope back

That is already one of Spikes big moves.

 

Have Austin take a note from Mikey Whipwreck and hit the Stunner from as many angles as DDP used to hit Diamond Cutters.

Mikey did the Whippersnapper from alot of angles?

 

I always thought wrestlers should do test to see if they can do high risk moves in swimming pools to see if they can do then.

Jericho was trying it into a swiming pool when he broke his arm.

Do most wrestlers test out moves that? What he doing it for fun or he actually jsut went out to a pool to try to practice doing one? Was this off a diving board or jsut the side of the pool? And speaking of the SSP didn't Kidman ionce swear off doing it after he almost killed himself a couple or something?

 

I think I've seen some floating collapsible mats for pools. You can put them in the middle and do something there so you wont have to risk hitting yourself on soemthing hard since theyll jsut beak away. Theyre not made for wrestling moves of course but you could use them for it.

 

Or maybe someone could get a friend already in the pool right in front of you holding a cushion. As soon as the wrestler gets in the air his friend can put the cushion against the side of the pool quick so if he doesnt flip far enough he wont hit anything hard.

 

Storm - Dragon Suplex as his finisher.

Problem with that is the head bumps rule... and safe dragon suplexes (loose full nelson, throw opp. right over onto stomach) look shit.

And anyway, a persons shoulders can't be down for a Dragon Suplex hold, so it always looks really bad to me.

You hate the Dragon suplex?

[Guest Dace59]

Lasso From El Passo...sounds familiar, but I can't put the move to the name...Dace, please describe.

 

Reverse figure Four (Nagat Lock) as in WWF N64 and PSX/PS2 games. Grab same leg instead off opposite, twist into a four and lay down, you you are pulling the straight leg towards you.

 

Mikey did the Whippersnapper from alot of angles?

 

Float overs from hit tosses, arm drags, suplexes, side walk slams, top rope, spidered etc.

 

And speaking of the SSP didn't Kidman once swear off doing it after he almost killed himself or something?

 

Yes, lots of times. Once he got NO foward motion at all, and come down on his HEAD on the TURNBUCKLES!

 

I dunno if all wrestler try moves in the swiming pool, I think it was off a low diving board.

He was in turing under Ultimop Dragon to be Super Lyger in Japan (he was so bad it lasted one match)

 

You hate the Dragon suplex?

 

No, I dont (I hate the soft version ala WWF), not the release version, but look at some dragon suplex holds (pins)  such as in Minuro Fuijeta's run in CZW, mainly against Trent Acid, the opp's shoulder are never down, and it looks really bad if you can see it on camera, still looks cool though.

[Guest]

I dunno if all wrestler try moves in the swiming pool, I think it was off a low diving board.

He was in turing under Ultimop Dragon to be Super Lyger in Japan (he was so bad it lasted one match)

Did Jericho last only one match or did the character? Did he have anything to do with Jyushin Thunder Liger? Ever see that match...was it that bad?

[Guest Dace59]

Jericho as that character lasted one match (it was a shit match due to him) Super Lyger was later brought back by someone else (I think) It was while Jyushin Thunder Lyger (who's always the same guy, just can't spell him name) was out injured.

 

The match was bad.. Jericho could do any spring boards (drop kicks and lionsauls) and when he did a Tiger Suplex hold for the finish, he couldn't hold the cradle together and it fell apart (sure it wasn't meant to)

[Guest the 1inch punch]

Let Rico Constaninto do that boss spinning kick he apparantly does and call it the Style Clash or something

 

as for finshers for Booker/Storm/Kane, you cant go wrong with a Ganso Bomb

[Guest]

Jericho as that character lasted one match (it was a shit match due to him) Super Lyger was later brought back by someone else (I think) It was while Jyushin Thunder Lyger (who's always the same guy, just can't spell him name) was out injured.

 

The match was bad.. Jericho could do any spring boards (drop kicks and lionsauls) and when he did a Tiger Suplex hold for the finish, he couldn't hold the cradle together and it fell apart (sure it wasn't meant to)

So he was meant as a short-term rplacement for Liger in New Japan? And did Jericho debut in the company as Super Lyger or was already there and just got picked to do it? Did Jericho stay with comapny for long after the match with whoever he fought?

[Guest Just call me Dan]

I knew that was coming.

What about Hogan?  I think he should set up with a more devastating move before dropping the leg as the nail in the coffin.  But what could it be?

Knowing the WWF, they'll have him chop them ten times in the corner, superkick them  spinebuster them when they fall toward him and drop the leg.

[Guest Dace59]

Give Kane a fireman's carry-to-spinebuster finish

That move is mainly used as a counte to a Handspring Rana.

 

as for finshers for Booker/Storm/Kane, you cant go wrong with a Ganso Bomb.

Are you insane?

It was a one (well more like 2 or 3) off spot. It's a kneeling vertical sheer drop powerbomb. It's a hella head bump, very nasty, people in the WWF aren't gonna take it.

It wasn't even a finisher.... it took a lot more to end the match(es)

[Guest Dace59]

So he was meant as a short-term rplacement for Liger in New Japan? And did Jericho debut in the company as Super Lyger or was already there and just got picked to do it? Did Jericho stay with comapny for long after the match with whoever he fought

 

 

I think he was just a short term replacemeant, yes. Can't remember what company he was in at the time, probably NJPW. I dunno what happend to him after the match, I'll have to check and come back to it

[Guest]

Give Kane a fireman's carry-to-spinebuster finish

That move is mainly used as a counte to a Handspring Rana.

 

as for finshers for Booker/Storm/Kane, you cant go wrong with a Ganso Bomb.

Are you insane?

It was a one (well more like 2 or 3) off spot. It's a kneeling vertical sheer drop powerbomb. It's a hella head bump, very nasty, people in the WWF aren't gonna take it.

It wasn't even a finisher.... it took a lot more to end the match(es)

How do you counter a handspring rana with a fireman-to-spinebuster? And wasnt the Ganzo Bomb only done that one time and as a mistake?

 

If you need the mic to be over, you shouldn't be over. - Mike Quackenbush

Aw, he just said that because isnt much of a talker. But a hell of a wrestler.

[Guest Dace59]

The Ganso Bomb was a planned spot..  a few other Ganso bomb like moves have been used in other matchs (once or twice) all planned.

 

As far as the Handspring Rana to Fireman's carry spinerbuster goes:

As the opp. flips over from the handsrping into the spinebuster, you duck under them and stand up, catching them across your shoulders in a fireman's carry. Them you throw them off into a spinebuster.

 

If you need the mic to be over, you shouldn't be over. - Mike Quackenbush  

Aw, he just said that because isnt much of a talker. But a hell of a wrestler.

 

Yer, but he said it, it's a good line. Heh, anyway.. that's for a different topic, I just like the qoute and agree with it

[Guest Just call me Dan]

Didn't HHH do the ganso bomb and someone has it as thier sig?