How many goddamn finishers does goldust have?

[Guest Phr33k]

I counted:

 

The Curtain Call (reverse lifted DDT)

The Final Cut (neckbreaker)

The Shattered Dreams/Golden Globes (running nutshot)

 

And the new one from HeAT...

 

The "Hush-Hush, Sweet Charlotte" (cobra clutch)

 

He ALSO uses the bulldog on occasions, and foreign objects too... Can't they stick with one???

[Guest Human Fly]

This is a good point. Test has the same problem. Give the man a move and let him stick with it to try and get it over. Also, does anyone think that Goldust should feud with Scott Hall again? That could be pretty funny.

[Guest ManKinnd]

I actually prefer when a wrestler has more than one finisher. That way the matches can have more "big" moves in them, and when someone kicks out of one the finishers, it's more of a big deal. Kinda like Misawa's elbows and tiger driver.

[Guest The Man in Blak]

The main problem with Goldust is that there's no suspense because none of his finishers are either over or look really powerful enough to put somebody out.  I mean, a running nut shot?  One nutshot is par for the course in a WWF match anyway.

[Guest]

I counted:

 

The Curtain Call (reverse lifted DDT)

The Final Cut (neckbreaker)

The Shattered Dreams/Golden Globes (running nutshot)

 

And the new one from HeAT...

 

The "Hush-Hush, Sweet Charlotte" (cobra clutch)

 

He ALSO uses the bulldog on occasions, and foreign objects too... Can't they stick with one???

I think it was called Hush Hush Sweet Darling. Either way I laughed so much when Coach said that because that is the gayest finsiher name in a long time. By the way dude the Final Cut? That was Big Show's move. Speaking of Big Show why does he do the reverse powerbomb thing anymore?

[Guest Nevermortal]

I'd like to forget Big Show's Final Cut, and return it back to Hurricane with a bow, and an apology card.

[Guest Dace59]

The Final Cut (neckbreaker)

 

It's called the Directors Cut, and it's a Seated Neckbreaker (Rude Awakening)

[Guest big Dante Cruz]

I think part of the problem is the lack of spectacular moves in Goldust's arsenal.  Let me rephrase that.  I think the problem is lack of real moves in Goldust's arsenal.  So when he does a real move, it's kinda important.

 

I like the idea of more than one finish too.  If one don't work, or you can't do it, you have a backup.  Really adds to drama once people start kicking out of your second finish.

 

Besides, what kind of move could he really carry off like a finish anyway?  Don't say Curtain Call.  Makes one barf.

[Guest Suicide King]

What about Edge?  Over the past three years he's used the Downward Spiral/Flatliner, the Edgecution/Buzzkiller/Implant DDT, the Spear, the Edge-o-Matic, and just last Smackdown he premiered yet another one, that weird-ass reverse sharpshooter he's calling the Edge-ucator.

 

This is getting out of hand.

[Guest big Dante Cruz]

Um, he premiered the revese sharpshooter thing against Regal a while back....

[Guest Suicide King]

Sorry.. so I missed an episode.  Doesn't exactly take away from my point though, does it?

[Guest Dace59]

Yep, a while ago... It's an inverted sharpshooter/clover leaf ankle lock.

And his Spear is the big pile of shit I've ever seen.

 

Personally, as a puro fan, I love multiple finisher.. makes the mathc more exciting, you can build up from one finisherm to the more powerfull ones.

And if someone kicks out of one finisher, multiple ones creates back up.. makes it seem sensible to me.

[Guest]

Yep, a while ago... It's an inverted sharpshooter/clover leaf ankle lock.

And his Spear is the big pile of shit I've ever seen.

I hate Edge.....but how can you diss his spear??!?!

 

The Final Cut (neckbreaker)

 

It's called the Directors Cut, and it's a Seated Neckbreaker (Rude Awakening)

Did they ever call either of those? Like I siad....Final Cut was the Big show's move. And it is called a Hangman neckbreaker not a seated.....I think.

 

I think part of the problem is the lack of spectacular moves in Goldust's arsenal.  Let me rephrase that.  I think the problem is lack of real moves in Goldust's arsenal.  So when he does a real move, it's kinda important.

 

What about Edge?  Over the past three years he's used the Downward Spiral/Flatliner, the Edgecution/Buzzkiller/Implant DDT, the Spear, the Edge-o-Matic, and just last Smackdown he premiered yet another one, that weird-ass reverse sharpshooter he's calling the Edge-ucator.

 

And about the Curtain Call. Didn't that used to be a different move? And what is the point of lifting the guy up for now reason and then dropping him. Finally jsut a general Godlust question......is he really only 31?

[Guest]

I counted:

 

The Curtain Call (reverse lifted DDT)

The Final Cut (neckbreaker)

The Shattered Dreams/Golden Globes (running nutshot)

 

And the new one from HeAT...

 

The "Hush-Hush, Sweet Charlotte" (cobra clutch)

 

He ALSO uses the bulldog on occasions, and foreign objects too... Can't they stick with one???

Oh yeah......and it is not the Golden Globes. That was jsut a little off hand comment.

[Guest nWoScorpion]

Coach must be the LEAST FUNNY person

 

Raven: Leave the comedy to the professionals

 

or something along those lines.

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

You guys act like Goldust is going to win a lot of high profile matches with these moves. Nobody really gives a damn about Goldust and the WWF is finding this out right now. They brought him and Perfect back for no good reason and now look what they have. In my opinion Goldust is worthless without proper character development. He is just some guy that dresses differently and quotes movies. That's a gimmick, not a character. The difference between him and Kane is that Goldust can't chokeslam anyone (and it would look like hell if he tried). Kane has no real character direction, and his character is totally ignored. The same thing holds true for Goldust, that's why the guy has no heat.

[Guest Dace59]

The Final Cut (neckbreaker)

It's called the Directors Cut, and it's a Seated Neckbreaker (Rude Awakening)

Did they ever call either of those? Like I siad....Final Cut was the Big show's move

 

Yes they did, and they are two different moves.

The Final Cut/Eye of the Hurricane/Nightmare on Helms Stree is an inverted face lock  swung into a falling forarm drop.

 

And it is called a Hangman neckbreaker not a seated.....I think.

 

Hangman's is when they drop to their back, when they sit down it's seated (ala directors Cut/ Curtain All 2002 and Rude Awakening)

 

I hate Edge.....but how can you diss his spear??!?!

He has no force, too small, and drops to his knees and one side, doesn't drill them like you should. Goldberg was shit, but damn he could do a good spear.

 

And about the Curtain Call. Didn't that used to be a different move?

Yes, it used to be a reverse inverted suplex. Hold the dude the other way up, pick for suplex, and slam forwards.