Guest Report post Posted April 19, 2002 From pwtorch.com On whether Vince ruined wrestling by having short matches and soap opera-style gimmicks: Greg said that Vince did ruin wrestling, and after the success of the '80s with good, solid matches, then stuff like Fabulous Moolah winning a battle royal in Madison Square Garden and ridiculous gimmicks like the Gobbledygooker turned fans off. He also believes the T&A has forced parents to shut off wrestling, which kids like to watch. Greg said T&A degrades wrestling and turns advertisers away. Plus, he said, wrestling doesn't have to be edgy and can be sold in a good, wholesome, but not "goody-two-shoes, sugary sweet wholesome. >>>I just want to know what the thing about Moolah winning and MSG battle royal was about. And the XWF will never make it if Greg Valentine is still wrestling for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Drury37 Report post Posted April 19, 2002 Wait a second if Moolah won a battle royal that means there had to be 20 or so female wrestlers in this thing,I never even knew there was 20 or so female wrestlers in like 1985 or so. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JHawk Report post Posted April 19, 2002 Was that a typo maybe? Maybe Moolah winning the women's title in her 70s and Brooklyn Brawler winning a battle royal at MSG. Those happened. And Drury, there were women's battle royals once upon a time, but I don't ever remember any in 1985. And none with more than 8-10 women, for that matter. One is on the Coliseum Video "WWF's Most Unusual Matches" from 1985 or 1986. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Drury37 Report post Posted April 19, 2002 Oh ok,yeah it might be a typo.Alright 8 or 10 woman battle royals makes more sense. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted April 19, 2002 Still sounds like a pretty crappy battle royal. I didn't think woman in those days took bumps over the top rope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JHawk Report post Posted April 19, 2002 I didn't think woman in those days took bumps over the top rope. They didn't. The battle royal I previously mentioned could be won by either over the top rope OR pinfall. And that was from the 1970s if I remember correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Drury37 Report post Posted April 19, 2002 A pinfall in a battle royal,that sounds pretty stupid,it's like an 8 corners match then. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted April 19, 2002 That match sounds like a ***** classic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Drury37 Report post Posted April 20, 2002 That match sounds like a ***** classic. I'm figuring that was a joke,right? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMTapes Report post Posted April 20, 2002 The battle royale on "The Biggest, Strongest...." from '86 or so was from the late 60s. And, no, they didn't take bumps then. It was entirely pinfall based, which along with it being a women's battle royale, landed itself a spot on the tape. -JM www.jmtapes.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Drury37 Report post Posted April 20, 2002 Wait the match is from the 1960s,thats somewhat old if you ask me.I am shocked I haven't seen it on the Golden Age of Wrestling on ESPN Classic. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMTapes Report post Posted April 21, 2002 Well, I'm almost positive that it was WWWF footage, and they weren't an NWA member until '71, so I don't think they could show it on ESPN. -Jim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MillenniumMan831 Report post Posted April 22, 2002 The Women's Battle Royal was on Most Unusual Matches (1985). Pinfalls were the form of elimination. The commentary was dubbed in by Gorilla Monsoon. It was a #1 Contender Match for Moolah's Title, so Moolah wasn't even in it. I can't remember who won it, but the match did take place in the 60s/70s era. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DEEP THOUGHT Report post Posted April 22, 2002 Well in the WWF Wrestlefest arcade game I always preferred pinning my opponents instead of tossing them over the top in the battle royal mode. I've always been a fan of battle royals...even most of the bad ones for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted April 22, 2002 The Women's Battle Royal was on Most Unusual Matches (1985). Pinfalls were the form of elimination. The commentary was dubbed in by Gorilla Monsoon. It was a #1 Contender Match for Moolah's Title, so Moolah wasn't even in it. I can't remember who won it, but the match did take place in the 60s/70s era. I just copied that tape last night. Too bad I might have to destoy it now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites