What did hogan do to deserve the title?

[Guest Redhawk]

Hogan had one singles match in three months before Backlash—which he lost—and in just his second match he wins the World title.

 

I don't care how big a legend Hogan is, that's just plain not right. And I understand the whole "Strike while the iron is hot," thing, but I doubt this is one of those cases. If the WWF always struck while the iron was hot, then The Rock would have won the title when he came back in the summer of 2001. Tazz would have won the title in early 2000, Stone Cold would have won the title in October of 2000, and Rob Van Dam would have won the title at No Mercy 2001.

 

No, this has something do with Hogan's relationship with Vince McMahon. Who else in the company would be able to only wrestle singles matches at PPVs, give bad interviews, and still be rewarded with the World title so soon? It seems like wherever Hogan goes, he gets the World title right away. It happened in the WWF back in the day, in WCW, and now in the WWF again.

 

I know this is an entertainment business and not a real sport, but for a guy to basically do nothing and get the World title can't be good for locker room morale. Guys like Kurt Angle, Jericho, The Rock, Austin, Kane, Big Show, Booker T, RVD, and even Bubba Ray Dudley have worked three times as much and gotten loud enough crowd responses to justify a title reign before Hogan.

[Guest Wonderboy]

Vince McMahon knows without Hulk Hogan, the wrestling boom would have never happened way back when, and vice versa. He knows Hogan's heat isn't gonna last, and he knows Hogan's time is running out, so he's giving him one final run while Hogan is over, and letting him go out how he came in. If this is HIS FINAL RUN, LAST, ONCE AND FOR ALL, THEN HE'S DONE FOR GOOD, PROMISE, then I think it's cool.

 

The reason Tazz and RVD didn't win the title is cause WWF has some dumbass thing about "paying your dues", in the meantime, usually killing the man's heat. And Austin and Rock didn't get the title because Vince knew they'll always be over.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

The reason Tazz and RVD didn't win the title is cause WWF has some dumbass thing about "paying your dues", in the meantime, usually killing the man's heat. And Austin and Rock didn't get the title because Vince knew they'll always be over.

coincidentally, the same reason Angle isnt getting the title right now, and isnt main eventing.  He knows he can Always get over

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

It won't be his final run, though. I can see him turning heel and then face again at least one more time.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

It won't be his final run, though. I can see him turning heel and then face again at least one more time.

and I can see dead people!

 

opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and they all stink!

[Guest Ihatesmarksandmarks]

I dont think this hogan babyface run has much gas left in the tank, nostalga only works for so long before people get tired of it,they really should have tried to squeeze one more hogan-rock match out before rock left. Its really the only match/feud that fans can buy and get into. I just really cant see hogan-jericho or hogan-taker exciting the hell out of anyone. I've got a feeling if they run with this hogan thing too long it will be like hogan's first face run in wcw all over again.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

I dont think this hogan babyface run has much gas left in the tank, nostalga only works for so long before people get tired of it,they really should have tried to squeeze one more hogan-rock match out before rock left. Its really the only match/feud that fans can buy and get into. I just really cant see hogan-jericho or hogan-taker exciting the hell out of anyone. I've got a feeling if they run with this hogan thing too long it will be like hogan's first face run in wcw all over again.

oh im waiting for the big bubba feud...

[Guest Ihatesmarksandmarks]

Man id almost pop for a hogan-bossman feud.....in a some sick,twisted way i think id actually enjoy it.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

Man id almost pop for a hogan-bossman feud.....in a some sick,twisted way i think id actually enjoy it.

Nailz as the special guest referee.

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

What did hogan do to deserve the title? Well, he was over for a few weeks, and...um...

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

What did hogan do to deserve the title? Well, he was over for a few weeks, and...um...

thats all you need when you're a legend...

[Guest Mad Dog]

Tazz....... ha that's a good one.  Considering Hogan is more over than Tazz can ever hope to be.  Face it everyone knew Tazz was killing his career by moving to the WWF.  Vince was never going to give someone as short as Tazz a decent title.  And now Tazz can't even wrestle that well to boot.

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

Tazz as WWF champ would be worse than Hogan.

[Guest]

Not if they spent time building him up instead of burying him.

[Guest Austin3164life]

Vince put the strap on Hogan because Hogan flashed Vince his man-tits, and Vince got off to that, so he gave him a title run.  No telling when it will subside and Hogan will finally retire.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, retarded mark mode off.  Hogan won now, because Vince is cashing in on nostalgia.  After a month or so, no one will really want to see the most presitigous title on a guy who looks older than my grandfather........

[Guest]

Would you people rather see Taker win the belt from Hogan?

 

I actually would ???

[Guest swan]

Where you a fan in the 80's? Thats why.

[Guest]

That's easy.  Are there two people in the world who enjoy sucking each other's ass more than Vincent K. McMahon and Hulk Hogan?  They're lovers.  Plain and simple.  Vincent K knows that without his little Golden Boy(Hogan) prancing around ever so nimbly on his rotted knees, that he wouldn't have a dime to his name.  Hogan knows that without Vincent K whoring the HPM(Hogan Propaganda Machine) to every moronic child in need of a hero, he, in turn, would not have a dime to his name.  So there you have it.  They are just in a constant loop of paying each other back for being whores for each other.  Whoredom would be the scientific term I believe.

[Guest notJames]

I believe in Jesus.

 

 

Seriously, that's about the best answer I've heard so far. It's like a mutual admiration society or circle jerk with those two (alhtough technically it'd be more like a swordfight). No amount of HHH-politicizing could withstand the power of the Orange Goblin and Vinnie Mac making googly eyes at each other...

 

Vince: I wuv you, Hulky Wulky. Here, have another World title.

 

Hogan: Aww, Vinnie Poo, you shouldn't have. Here, have one of my unsold "Hulk Still Rules" foam fingers.

 

And when the parade of suck known as Hulkamania comes to a screeching halt once the fans realize the fleeting nature of nostalgia, we can only hope that the Fed is still around for us to bitch about.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Austin/Hogan has to happen sometime.  I maintain that it is the big money match for the WWF, not Hogan/Rock.

[Guest notJames]

Okay, but won't they have to turn Hogan heel again? No way are the WWFaithful going to boo Mr. What. And they can't have another "I respect you" feud with those two, 'cuz you know Austin can't act that well.

 

And what happens afterward, when Austin wins the belt? Does Hogan bow out gracefully, shake Austin's hand and ride off into the sunset? Doubt it. Vince seems to have created a no-win situation here. And of course, it's "no-win" for the fans.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

I think that this being Hogan's final run in the WWF(IF he agrees to bow out peacefully), then I really don't have a problem with him holding the belt for maybe two months at the most. As long as he drops it to a credible main event heel OR to either Austin or Rock, let him run with the ball and see what happens. I was never a Hogan fan, but since they already gave him the title, it's kinda pointless to wonder why. It's all about how they go about using him.

 

If the nostalgia pops start to die off while he's champion, then I say get the title off of him and build up to that final money match and send him off on a good note.

 

Maybe I'm just too optimistic on this subject....

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

What has Hogan done to deserve the title? Ok, well he's drawn great reactions from the crowds, but I don't think that means anything in terms of drawing power (see Goldberg, Bill). However, unlike other guys that do nothing but pop crowds (see Van Dam, Rob), Hogan has a few more significant stats to call on:

 

1. No Way Out did a much higher buyrate than usual. While there has been some debate about what it actually is (ranging from a low of about 550000 to a high of almost 900000), it is still one of the best buyrates ever for that PPV and way above the stuff the WWF had been doing before it.

 

and now the biggie:

 

2. The Wrestlemania X-8 buyrate is being estimated at 1.3-1.4 million buys, making it easily the biggest drawing wrestling PPV ever. Now, how much of that was Hogan's doing? Consider that last year, on the strength of the enormous Rock-Austin main event, they did roughly 1 million buys. So I think it's fair to say that Hogan's involvement drew at least a couple hundred thousand more buys, because there was really nothing else on that show in terms of drawing power that goes beyond what they normally offer. Suppose for a low estimate that 100000 people bought the show for Hogan vs. Rock (that didn't buy for Austin vs. Rock). Then that's an extra 4-5 million dollars of gross profit on the show.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

That's easy.  Are there two people in the world who enjoy sucking each other's ass more than Vincent K. McMahon and Hulk Hogan?  They're lovers.  Plain and simple.  Vincent K knows that without his little Golden Boy(Hogan) prancing around ever so nimbly on his rotted knees, that he wouldn't have a dime to his name.  Hogan knows that without Vincent K whoring the HPM(Hogan Propaganda Machine) to every moronic child in need of a hero, he, in turn, would not have a dime to his name.  So there you have it.  They are just in a constant loop of paying each other back for being whores for each other.  Whoredom would be the scientific term I believe.

What about Vince and HBK?

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Does Hogan bow out gracefully, shake Austin's hand and ride off into the sunset?

 

Yes, and then Austin would give him the Stunner again anyways, just because he's Austin.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

Austin/Hogan has to happen sometime.  I maintain that it is the big money match for the WWF, not Hogan/Rock.

Of course Austin/Hogan is the money match, even if Rock and Hogan have had the similar career routes.  

 

Problem is Austin HATES Hogan, see 1994 WCW. Still hasnt forgiven him, probably never will.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Problem is Austin HATES Hogan, see 1994 WCW. Still hasnt forgiven him, probably never will.

 

Austin has to win, and Hogan's heat is diminishing.  Maybe after the reaction that Austin got on RAW for giving the Stunner to Hogan, he will finally be willing to do it.

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

Problem is Austin HATES Hogan, see 1994 WCW. Still hasnt forgiven him, probably never will.

 

Austin has to win, and Hogan's heat is diminishing.  Maybe after the reaction that Austin got on RAW for giving the Stunner to Hogan, he will finally be willing to do it.

Hmm,  you *do* have a poitn with that one...

[Guest Singular]

Hogan's crowd reaction is noticably getting weaker.  I guess the Hulkamaniacs quit taking all the vitamins they needed.

 

If Austin/Hogan is the money feud, why did the WWF build so much to Rock and Hogan?  Did they not expect the reaction the crows was giving during the match?  If the crowd had not gotten behind Hogan do you think he would still be champion?

[Guest Big McLargeHuge]

Nope. As RicFlairGlory stated above, Austin hates Hogan and refused to work with him.