Backyard Wrestling Promotion ideas

[Slickster 0]

I run NCW (www.ncw1.tk), the world's biggest backyard wrestling organization. We've got 13 member feds around the world and we put out a 30min online show each week.

 

Thing is, nobody seems to care. No one knows about us or about our member promotions. Does anyone have any ideas that could help NCW expand its audience? Thanks in advance!

[Guest Real F'n Show]

Find some well known wrestling sites and contact them about putting your banners on their site. Also, possibly put the shows on Kazaa or Limewire if they aren't already.

[Slickster 0]

Good ideas!

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

And distribute tapes.... but this requires your members to send word-by-mouth about how great the fed is. Have them be your salesmen as well as wrestlers. I'm pretty sure they'll agree to do it.

 

 

Example:

 

Wrestler A: Hey you like wrestling?

 

Uninformed fan: Yeah sure.

 

Wrestler A: Then why don't you watch a tape with me?

 

Uninformed fan: Sure.

 

Wrestler A: Whoot!

 

[After viewing of tape]

 

Wrestler A: You can keep viewing our shows.... online. As well as buy our tapes.

[The C Man 0]

Thing is, nobody seems to care.

That's because it's backyard wrestling.

[Guest suplexmasta]

Improve quality on everything: rings, workers, production.

 

Video distribution is a must, and with the advent of reliable DVD burners, is easier than ever.

 

Have a sitdown meeting before every show, go over the last show and the upcoming show. Don't be afraid to say "this absolutely sucked", because anyone who can't take criticism won't keep a job in any business.

 

Remeber that most wrestling message boards have some form of a shill section. Don't be afraid to shill the hell out of it. I'm a pretty well informed guy, and this is the first I've heard of the promotion, which is not exactly encouraging. Also, flyers are your friend. Find a telephone pole, and if it doesn't have a flyer for your promotion on it, staple one there immediately.

 

Here's maybe the most important thing: actually get a professional quality ring, and a building. The local National Guard Armories are better than any backyard.

 

Try these out, and you should get more publicity, and have more fun doing it because you'll have a better audience.

[Mrnoitaull 0]

being a backyard fiend myself, I'm checking youall out. I've been tryin to hunt down the fed in VA with me being not too fer in MD, but I have not succeeded. Anyway, I'm watching the titel match between Happy and Vortex now.

[Slickster 0]

Improve quality on everything: rings, workers, production.

 

Video distribution is a must, and with the advent of reliable DVD burners, is easier than ever.

 

Have a sitdown meeting before every show, go over the last show and the upcoming show. Don't be afraid to say "this absolutely sucked", because anyone who can't take criticism won't keep a job in any business.

 

Remeber that most wrestling message boards have some form of a shill section. Don't be afraid to shill the hell out of it. I'm a pretty well informed guy, and this is the first I've heard of the promotion, which is not exactly encouraging. Also, flyers are your friend. Find a telephone pole, and if it doesn't have a flyer for your promotion on it, staple one there immediately.

 

Here's maybe the most important thing: actually get a professional quality ring, and a building. The local National Guard Armories are better than any backyard.

 

Try these out, and you should get more publicity, and have more fun doing it because you'll have a better audience.

Thing is, we're like the NWA Main Offices instead of a member promotion, so the way we do things is different.

[Slickster 0]

being a backyard fiend myself, I'm checking youall out. I've been tryin to hunt down the fed in VA with me being not too fer in MD, but I have not succeeded. Anyway, I'm watching the titel match between Happy and Vortex now.

Well, whaddya think?

[Mrnoitaull 0]

being a backyard fiend myself, I'm checking youall out. I've been tryin to hunt down the fed in VA with me being not too fer in MD, but I have not succeeded. Anyway, I'm watching the titel match between Happy and Vortex now.

Well, whaddya think?

cool . Wish I could find one around my area . I've wanting to join one for real, but its only me and a friend of mine that are serious. We even have premeditated matches down. The only thing stopping us is a ring.

[Detox 0]

i have yet to see a backyard wrestling tape or dvd that had good camera angles you should choose a dependable person who is hopefully a wrestling fan that knows when and when not to zoom in or pan out to a crowd reaction. And it is always your best bet to establish faces and heels and have the fans react accordingly. Last but not least be careful the glass light tubes,barbed wire and flaming tables are only necessary in some cases

[Mrnoitaull 0]

I know what will always having me coming back :

 

Unique Reversals

 

Excellent sells/bumps

 

In depth and diverse gimmicks/characters

 

Convincing near falls

[Guest RickyB]

No-one will ever take Backyard Wrestling seriously, and with good reason.

 

Where I train we have Backyarders coming in every week and you can spot them a mile off, they're the ones who turn around and say "that's not right" when you show them a move, they're also the ones who, without fail, come on one week fuck around doing sloppy finishers, almost killing themselves then ask to be shown how to do a Michinoku Driver despite the fact they can't back bump safely nor can they support their weight properly. Then get shown basics and say "I can't do that" or "I don't need to know that" or "when are we going to do moves". Then they practise doing and taking elbow drops and flinch every time they take one almost breaking their arms. Then leave and put a message on the board saying that they don't want to come back until we get softer mats (because the padded crash mat is too hard for them) and then post messages about how we need to do more Hardcore Matches.

 

The fact is that no Pro Wrestler will take Backyard Wrestling seriously because of people like that and even more no true fan will take Backyarding seriously because it looks so amature and it's so easy to tell a Backyarder from a trained Pro.

 

There probably is some talent in Backyard, but they should go and get themselves trained, even if you can't afford it then wait until you've got the money. Because I met a guy at one of our local promotions who is incredible, he's got a shitload of talent and would definatly go somewhere IF he never backyarded. His whole body is fucked to bits because of the Backyarding he did... he's only 19 years old but he's seeing a back specialist because he's fucked his body up. He'll likely be in a wheelchair before the time he's 25. If you want to end up like him go ahead, but Backyarding won't get you anywhere. In fact, in the long run it'll probably set you back a shitload because you'll fuck yourself up and if a promotion catch on that you did/do backyard when you train with them then they'll likely make you work a shitload harder unless you are really talented... and I mean like outstanding talent.

 

Nothing will ever stop Backyarding, which is unfortunate... because it's only a matter of time till we hear about a Backyarder killing another Backyarder because of stupid move which neither were well trained enough to pull off. And maybe with the files being 60+ mb. I could get some decent Wrestling a lot quicker.

[Slickster 0]

1) NCW's member feds are mostly about having fun, not about going pro.

2) However, a lot of our members have wrestlers who are either trained OR are actually pro wrestlers themselves.

[Guest AdamF]

If you have pros wrestling in your little backyard league, that's a disgrace. Around here if anyone caught wind of anyone in their promotion doing backyard wrestling shows, they would be booted out the door with several large shoe imprints on their bum, and never used again.

 

My favourite backyarder line is "but we do everything safely...we don't do any crazy stuff". If you're not trained properly, you're not doing ANYTHING safely.

 

I'll echo the sentiments of RickyB...get out of the backyard, and get trained if that's what you want to do. Do it sooner than later because old habits are hard to break. The more you do in the backyard, the harder it'll be to train you the "right" way.

 

RickyB: We should go bowling.

[Guest RickyB]

1) NCW's member feds are mostly about having fun, not about going pro.

That's nice, i'm sure you have a lot of fun potentially killing your mates.

 

2) However, a lot of our members have wrestlers who are either trained OR are actually pro wrestlers themselves.

 

If you have any actual pro wrestlers then i'd like their names and who they wrestle for... i'm sure their promotions would be happy to hear about that. If anyone knew they were booking workers who Backyard then they'd be thrown out of the door and would likely be blackballed from every single respectable promotion. Word travells fast in the Wrestling business, all it would take is one Wrestler to see a guy they recognise from a event they worked alongside them to tell another wrestler that promotion x books backyarders and cite them as an example, that worker will tell someone else, who'll tell someone else and so on till it gets back to that promotion, who will likely be pissed off and will get rid of them asap.

 

Course that would be if you were actually telling the truth about pro's working with you. Any pro who has even a little common sence would stay as far away from backyarding as possible if only for the fact that they know how likely it is that they'll fuck their body up backyarding. There's enough dangers being in the ring with trained pro's never mind wrestling on an uneven surfice without any padding on the ground working against people who've never had a training session in their lives. Although I don't dispute that some of your guys may have had a couple of training sessions and then give up because it was too hard for them. But a couple of training sessions does not a Wrestler make.

 

I respect anyone who's done all of the work to get out of Backyarding and get themselves trained.. as it's likely a harder journey than starting from scratch... you have to humble yourselves to realising that you know the square root of fuck all as well as having to get used to having the reputation of being a backyarder and likely getting worked a hell of a lot harder at training due to that, plus you have to get out of the bad habbits you picked up as a backyarder (and trust me, you'll have picked up a lot you don't even realise) before you even get close to stepping in the ring for a training match, never mind getting out there in front of a crowd. Most Backyarders run a mile once they realise that... those who stick it out have a lot of respect from me... but the tards who throw each other about in the backyard can fuck off... all I hope is that they get out of it before they end up killing themselves or can no longer walk.

[Mrnoitaull 0]

1)ok,if memory serves me correctly 90% of the people that play street football learned from watching.

 

2)Dude, we're boys/men, let us get our cuts and bruises the way we please.

[TheBigSwigg 0]

1)ok,if memory serves me correctly 90% of the people that play street football learned from watching.

 

2)Dude, we're boys/men, let us get our cuts and bruises the way we please.

1)Football and wrestling are two COMPLETELY different sports. In football, you don't get trained to hit someone so it looks hard, but doesn't hurt them. You learn to hit them for real wearing pads. Also, anyone playing tackle football without pads anywhere is not that smart. Too much risk and not enough reward.

 

2)Get them the way you please, but if all you're getting are cuts and bruises, then you're lucky.

[Mrnoitaull 0]

1)ok,if memory serves me correctly 90% of the people that play street football learned from watching.

 

2)Dude, we're boys/men, let us get our cuts and bruises the way we please.

1)Football and wrestling are two COMPLETELY different sports. In football, you don't get trained to hit someone so it looks hard, but doesn't hurt them. You learn to hit them for real wearing pads. Also, anyone playing tackle football without pads anywhere is not that smart. Too much risk and not enough reward.

 

2)Get them the way you please, but if all you're getting are cuts and bruises, then you're lucky.

OK now Im questioning your perspective on backyard wrestling. You will never catch any of my people swinging any sharp, shattering or blunt object at anyone. Never see us jumping off sheds and rooftops onto abandoned mattresses . Hell, everything we do is choreographed, so we are well aware of when to fall how to fall and what to expect from the other person. Thus the reason why I limited at cuts and bruises.

[Guest RickyB]

No, you don't know how and when to fall.. you don't know how to support yourselves for moves and you have no fucking clue about what your doing. Yes I thought I knew a lot from watching Wrestling on TV but I didn't. Yes watching Wrestling gives you a grounding in how to structure and how to pace a match, but it does not allow you to step out and Wrestle a match without any training.

 

Just because what you do is choriographed does NOT make it safe, all Pro Wrestlers have back problems from wear and tear of taking bumps in matches over a long period of time and Pro Wrestlers Wrestle in a ring which is made especially FOR Wrestling. The surfaces you Wrestle on, whether it's a matress, grass, gym mats or whatever IS NOT safe especially if you've not been trained (and no practising it on your own does not count as training) to break fall or how to support yourself and wrestle safely. I wouldn't dare bump on grass and I know how to bump safely... one little mistake or bad landing and your fucked.. you only have one back and once it's broke you ain't gonna fix it.

 

I'm not going to get through to you guys but it's worth a try... and if I can talk one backyarder into leaving and getting trained then it's worth it.

[TheBigSwigg 0]

Yeah, I would have to agree with Ricky B. My best friend is a wrestler, and he's told me it's much more difficult than you think. I would love to take the video I have of us "wrestling" in our dorm to his boss. It would be entertaining.

 

Note-the "wrestling" in question is basically us hitting each other on the head with Pizza Boxes. Seriously. A few pulled punches and pizza box hits, and maybe an elbow drop. It's embarassing, and if it wasn't so amusing to watch how stupid I was, I'd probably tape over it.

[Slickster 0]

I'm not going to get through to you guys but it's worth a try... and if I can talk one backyarder into leaving and getting trained then it's worth it.

You must have missed the part where I said that the people who don't do this for fun usually DO get training. NCW members have been trained by NWA affiliates and XPW graduates (among others) and have even wrestled NWA champions.

 

However, the vast majority do it for FUN and have little to no desire to go pro.

 

I'm not a great wrestler by any means and am definitely not going to be a pro wrestler, but it's a hell of a lot of fun to get together with your friends, make up gimmicks, and have a good time wrestling.

 

This isn't the place to go on another anti-backyard detour.

 

Now, could you provide me with the answers to the questions I posed in the first post of this thread, or will I just have to ignore your future posts in this thread?

[Guest The Last Free Voice]

I don't suport backyarding at all, but whatever. If you want to draw in fans, make it as different as possible from the other backyard or even local indy feds. that's my best advice.

[Guest AdamF]

However, the vast majority do it for FUN and have little to no desire to go pro.

Hypothetically...

 

I have no desire to enter martial arts competitions/exhibitions and break boards with my fists, head, and feet. But I like to do martial arts for fun. Should I then receive proper instruction to ensure the safety of myself and those around me, even if I have no desire to profit from those skills? Of course I should.

[Slickster 0]

Well, you've got to remember that the average backyard wrestler is between 15 and 20, so having the $$ to get trained (or drive/get driven to a trainer), so that's another factor as to why people don't get trained.

[Guest suplexmasta]

Well, you've got to remember that the average backyard wrestler is between 15 and 20, so having the $$ to get trained (or drive/get driven to a trainer), so that's another factor as to why people don't get trained.

Bottom line, if you're going to do it, do it right and try not to cripple your self or others, which you WILL do unless you have the proper training and equipment.

 

Seriously, I don't like seeing people get crippled, and I'm sure neither do your parental figures. If you don't think wrestling (especially backyarding) is dangerous to the point of permanent injuries, boy do I have some tapes for you (and your parental figures) to watch. I've got family that were wrestlers, and they definitely show the wear and tear, even though they did it for only a short time, professionally trained, and with the proper equipment and setting. You're setting yourselves up for a rude awakening by not following proper procedures.

 

It's like driving a car when you're thirteen years old: sure you've seen other people do it hundreds of times, but that doesn't mean you've developed the proper skills to handle a motor vehicle.

 

Then again, I firmly believe that Charles Darwin had a very good point when he said that the herd will thin out any way it can.

[Guest RickyB]

Well, you've got to remember that the average backyard wrestler is between 15 and 20, so having the $$ to get trained (or drive/get driven to a trainer), so that's another factor as to why people don't get trained.

 

I'm sorry mate, but if you said that to any Pro Wrestler they tell you to fuck off. I had it easy getting into this business compared to some people but I still travelled fairly far and used to spend £35 ($70) to train at South Shields when i started training, I got lucky that training moved to the Town I live in and I trained there.. i've still spend well in excess of £150 ($300) since it's moved here to train. That also doesn't count the costs of travelling to places to promote upcoming shows for the promotion that trained me, nor does that count the costs of my attire as boots, tights, singlets and pads don't come cheap. Do I have that kind of money to throw around? No, of course not. I've only recently got a job because I was in college when I started Wrestling and if I took a job I wouldn't be able to get time off to train. I've not had that money to spend but I went and I spent it. Show some fucking respect to this business and quit all of those excuses and get yourselves trained and work your way into the business.

 

You go on about how this is just for fun, following a post about how you "want more recognition". The fact is that you want all of the glory of being a pro wrestler with none of the work. You want people to watch your shows and blow you for being a Wrestler despite your unwillingness to get trained and work your way up into the business. Your bullshit doesn't work with me, I watched your video and I know a untrained backyarder when I see one. Fact is, if this was just for fun then why would you post around the internet asking how to get more people to watch your shows? I'll give you a tip if you want recognition, get money, get yourselves trained and work your way into the business and in five years when you've gained expiriance working round the country and gained some respect for the business and earned respect from fellow Wrestlers THEN set your own promotion up.

 

And if any of your Wrestlers had worked NWA Champions and were fully trained then they would not be working for you in your backyard. You are blatantly full of bullshit or gullable as fuck to believe that any Wrestler worth a dime would Backyard. They may have had a training session or two and left because it was "too hard" but they wouldn't agree to go to a Backyard fed and Wrestle people who haven't had one training session on a surface that isn't set for people to Wrestle in.

 

As I said, get some fucking respect for the business... and most importantly get out of backyarding before you do some permanent damage. A guy that I know from training quit backyarding when he was at a Backyard show and someone practiced a moonsault onto feet, landed on their feet but the surface was bobbely and they broke their leg in two places and shattered their ankle... I mean.. he didn't even fuck up the move but he still injured himself, and very badly, due to the surface. That was quite a long time ago and I don't know how that guys doing now... but that's enough to make me believe that I need to at least try to stop people backyarding. As someone said earlier there's no way of doing it safely if your not trained, but even if you were trained.. doing it on a surface not meant for Wrestling makes it unsafe.

[Corey_Lazarus 0]

The only backyarders that made it big have been The Hardy Boyz. Jeff is so screwed up that he's not worth shit anymore, and Matt Hardy seems to never get a push despite being solid in the ring, most likely because of his reputation of being a backyarder. Please, do get training.

 

And yes, I've backyarded from time-to-time. I think everybody has once or twice. But there's a difference between doing fake punch/kick like I did and trying various complicated maneuvers like a bunch of backyarders try to do.

[PsychoDriver 0]

XPW graduates (among others)

XPW had graduates?

[Slickster 0]

XPW graduates (among others)

XPW had graduates?

Well, one of BWA's guys was trained by an XPW wrestler, so that's what I meant.