Why angle is in the mid-card

[Guest Black Tiger]

With all the bitching about how Angle ought to be main event, does anyone know why he's stuck in the mid-card?

 

The WWF rushed his heel turn in October and he has yet to recover from it. If they took their time and played it out as he MIGHT be the member to join the Alliance (remember them?) it could have come off as great, but they played the whole damn angle out in one night. Then he could have become a face again by helping the WWF win in survivor seires but they decided that Austin should be the face and since then he's been stuck in the mid-card.

[Guest Anglesault]

He was main eventing in November, Early December, and Mid-January to early March, buddy.

[Guest dreamer420]

Does he need to be in the main event for his whole WWF career?  Fuck no.  Angle works so well in the midcard, lowercard, uppercard, that the WWF knows wherever they stick him, he's going to be a heat machine.

[Guest Anglesault]

Does he need to be in the main event for his whole WWF career?  Fuck no.  Angle works so well in the midcard, lowercard, uppercard, that the WWF knows wherever they stick him, he's going to be a heat machine.

So is Austin or Rocky. Should they be buried in the midcard?

[Guest Black Tiger]

Does he need to be in the main event for his whole WWF career?  Fuck no.  Angle works so well in the midcard, lowercard, uppercard, that the WWF knows wherever they stick him, he's going to be a heat machine.

So is Austin or Rocky. Should they be buried in the midcard?

When was the last time Austin did anything interesting?

 

Rock isn't even on TV anymore.

 

Rock was fighting RVD for the Hardcore Title, that seems like a step down, Rock was jobing to Test,

 

Austin is stuck in the stupid nWo feud, teaming with BRADSHAW! and now stuck in a feud with BIG SHOW!

 

Angle seems pretty damn lucky to be where he's at right now.

[Guest Anglesault]

I meant did he agree with their HHHdepushes.

 

And you do realize that no one has recovered from a boring Edge feud, right? Storm, Christian, Regal, Booker, Hell, even Test all left the feud worse than they entered. Angle is NOT lucky to be in this position.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

oh c'mon anglesault angle isn't being buried he's getting plenty of tv time and he did WIN their PPV match.

[Guest Anglesault]

The feud is continuing.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

blame angle for that. If he hadn't had a great match with edge they might have gaven the feud a mercy kill

[Guest]

blame angle for that. If he hadn't had a great match with edge they might have gaven the feud a mercy kill

 

CWM, should't you be watching the Canucks lose to the Red Wings again?

 

That's what you get for being a traitor and going with Treble Charged.

[Guest Black Tiger]

There were 3 months between Christian VS Edge and Christians stupid temper tantrum gimmick, no way in hell that's Edge's fault.

 

Booker T wasn't exactly doing anything great before his feud with Edge.

 

Regal was in trouble before his feud with Edge.

 

Test has been in trouble since he was part of T&A

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

blame angle for that. If he hadn't had a great match with edge they might have gaven the feud a mercy kill

 

CWM, should't you be watching the Canucks lose to the Red Wings again?

 

That's what you get for being a traitor and going with Treble Charged.

canucks don't play tonight.

 

it's not my fault i got tired of you and anlgesault bitching about how kurt angle is being held down.

[Guest dreamer420]

So is Austin or Rocky.

Kurt Angle is no Austin or Rock.  His two past title reigns have proved that.  He isn't someone the WWF could put the title on and give a lengthy reign to.  Why not let him feud with Edge so Edge can elevate his game a little.

[Guest Anglesault]

There were 3 months between Christian VS Edge and Christians stupid temper tantrum gimmick, no way in hell that's Edge's fault.

 

Booker T wasn't exactly doing anything great before his feud with Edge.

 

Regal was in trouble before his feud with Edge.

 

Test has been in trouble since he was part of T&A

Christian dropped immediately to the Euro level.

 

Regal had SOME heat before Edge destroyed it.

 

 

And why must it always be ANGLE who elevates people? Edge has beaten him, what, six times?

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

Maybe because none of the others are willing to elevate others

[Guest Anglesault]

So? Why must Angle be the midcard stepping stone forced to elevate people for the rest of his career with no upward movement?

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

because he blew his chance with the belt twice?

[Guest]

He didn't blow as bad as Jericho.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

Pleaseeeeeeeeee

 

Jericho blew it because of the horrible storylines. c;mon he was stephy's water boy. of course it didn't work.

[Guest]

Yeah, Angle blew it because of his in-ring work, not bad storylines and not because he was booked to be weak.

[Guest Anglesault]

1st Reign: He Dink the Clowned a match needed a 20 minute Austin beatdown in another. Honky Tonked the reign.

 

2nd Reign: Over the course of two weeks, he beat Booker lost and got destroyed by the Dudleyz, got destroyed and beat Shane, got destroyed and lost to RVD. Not a very promising push.

[Guest Black Tiger]

Anglesault, I'm just curious about how much you know about the inner workings of the wrestling business?

 

Pushing someone isn't a 50/50 thing, people are bound to have to look bad from it. HHH was dumped as IC Champion for Kane, why the hell did Kane need the title, to job to ALBERT! Dean Malenko was one of the BEST technical wrestlers in the world, he had to put over Crash, Scotty, and X Pac, there was no upside, in pushing someone there never is. If you don't like Angle being used then chalk it up to guys like HHH, Undertaker, and Austin not willing to put over a younger wrestler

 

Christian going down to Euro title was a favor since he was NOT a believable IC champion, if you say he was then I guess your age is between 7-13

 

Angle got his 2nd reign purley from 9/11 and the Patriotism, hence his drop to the US title.

 

Angle had gotten pinfalls over HHH, he beat him on RAW to get his No Mercy title shot in 2000 and he pinned him at NWO, does this mean that Angle is above HHH? No, just getting a win doesn't make a wrestler above the one he beat.

[Guest]

I cant tell when AngleSault ends and when Kurt's sac begins, help us lord.

[Guest Anglesault]

Angle got his 2nd reign purley from 9/11 and the Patriotism, hence his drop to the US title.

 

Then the booking of Summerslam and the 9/10 Raw makes NO SENSE whatsoever.

 

Christian going down to Euro title was a favor since he was NOT a believable IC champion, if you say he was then I guess your age is between 7-13

 

And EDGE is?

 

 

 

Pushing someone isn't a 50/50 thing, people are bound to have to look bad from it.

 

Oh, ok, they are depushing Angle, one of the best wrestlers in the company, the most over heel and one of the best mic workers in favor of the greater good of Edge, his spears and his kiss of death boring feuds. Okay...

[Guest Black Tiger]

For 2001,I think Edge was the perfect choice for the IC champion. Did all he could in the tag division, very popular, good match potential with Storm.

 

Summerslam booking was purely to make Angle a bigger face and Austin a bigger heel, it worked, but the finish sucked

 

Refresh my memory of 9/10 RAW

 

You've made your point of how this feud hurts Angle, you don't need to re-state it, if you don't like it, Life sucks, get a fucking helmet.

[Guest Anglesault]

The way Summerslam was booked, Angle NEEDED to win the rematch.

 

9/10 Raw was when Austin threw Angle off the stage. I think he would have been "injured" for the next couple of weeks to set up the match at Unforgiven.

 

And my point is that an Edge feud hurts everybody BUT Edge. Where IS Storm today? What about Christian? Regal? Booker really could have used a non shampoo related feud and a big win over Edge, but I don't blame Edge for that. But Booker has sunk lower since then.

[Guest Black Tiger]

They did the neck injury angle on Smackdown! to hype the re-match (or was that after he won the title?)

 

After E&C broke up it was obvious that Christian was going downhill, I didn't like that they gave him the IC title but I thought he was a good Euro champion and his Champion of europe was entertaining.

 

Regal lost any of his heat when he hit Angle with the title and caused Austin to win it. The Edge feud was to try to get some heat back, weather that succeeded or failed depends on your point of view I guess.

 

Lance Storm is the most misused wrestler on the damn roster. Storm has the talent to put on a great series with Jericho or Angle but the WWF sees fit to job him on Jakked

 

Booker lost the Wrestlemania match but has since won numerous tag matches and the re-match.

[Guest Anglesault]

They did a neck injury on 9/10, but they needed Angle for the Tribute show on 9/13 so they scrapped that and redid it before Unforgiven.

 

Regal was pretty over in late January. The feud should have ended THEN.

 

Booker is doing movie reviews with Goldust.

 

Christian's Euro title win wasn't even broadcasted. He was WAY over after the turn but an AWFUL second month killed that dead.

[Guest Black Tiger]

They could have easily got the E&C feud going again with the simple fake aplology angle that always happens and the stupid face ALWAYS falls for it

 

Booker's positon has more to do with the fact that he was a big name in WCW than his feud with Edge

 

I would have loved the Regal feud to end in December, their matches sucked, of course because their matches sucked, Edge didn't get what would have been his revenge at Wrestlemania.

 

I think feuding with Edge is a better spot for Angle than his last one, Kurt has a talent for pulling good matches out of bad wrestlers but he couldn't do it with Kane.

[Guest Anglesault]

They kind of had the fake appology angle with the "Mom had a accident"

 

I would have loved the Regal feud to end in December, their matches sucked, of course because their matches sucked, Edge didn't get what would have been his revenge at Wrestlemania.

 

I think Vengeance was the best match there. They just went DOWNHILL after that. I would have vomited if I had to see a FOURTH match. And I just viewed Edge as a really bad IC champ, I'm not even sure why.

 

I think feuding with Edge is a better spot for Angle than his last one, Kurt has a talent for pulling good matches out of bad wrestlers but he couldn't do it with Kane.

 

Would you like to hear my thoughts on the Kane fiasco? If I start, I WON'T stop. That is one of the main reasons why I am pissed about this Angle/Edge feud right now.