Anybody see jason x yet?

[Guest]

1. drowned

2. Machette in arm

3. axe to head

4. chopped up by Corey Feldman

5. N/A

6. Chained to rock and drowned in the bottom of the lake

7.  Similar to 6, put pulled underwater by zombie

8. melts in sewer

9. pulled to Hell by Satan

10.  Burns up in atmosphere

[Guest Risk]

There were no slasher movies before Halloween, it started it.  It wasn't because it was a slasher, either.  It was compared to Psycho because of the scariness.  Jason Voorhees as "THE ZOMBIE KILLER OF DEATH~!" was a direct ripoff of Myers.  The mask, silent, can survive bullets, evil, little if any emotions, ect al.  

 

I'm down with Mrs. Voorhees though, let her baby boy rest.  YOU BASTARDS!  Anyways...Mrs. Voorhees should adopt Norman Bates.

[Guest]

Actually, he died in part 2 by getting sliced by a machete between his shoulder and his neck. A slice to the arm wouldn't do much to him.

 

Close enough though.

[Guest evenflowDDT]

Why not just get Freddy, Micheal Myers and Jason all in one big slasher movie and have them just trying to kill each other.

That would be cool, and a very good way of ending each series.

Once on eBay I saw a bootleg Swedish movie for sale that allegedly had Leatherface, Jason, Freddy, and Michael Myers all in the same movie.  There wasn't any plot description given, and it wasn't a pristine transfer, given that its a generated dub of a bootleg film, but it exists, somewhere.  Of course I didn't have any money to buy it, if I had the money I would've bought one of the other items the seller had on the auction block - Halloween 6 Producer's Cut! I've never seen it, but have heard its fairly coherent and a much better film than the Halloween 6 we all know and... love?

[Guest Risk]

Anyone care to know the original plot of the Halloween movies?  It goes back to a Celtic myth, Samhain, which would eventually be Christised to become Halloween.  It was on November first.  Sacrifices would be made for the "new year", crops, animals, and even humans were sacrificed.  Masks were of course worn to scare off evil spirits.

 

It is possible that Michael's victims are sacrifices.  Note: I'm only going by part one with this analogy.

[Guest J*ingus]

Yeah, the F13 series is weird in that the makers really tried to kill Jason permanently in several of the movies (he died at the ends of 3, 4, 8, and 9, and he was dead throughout 5), but he still keeps coming back nonetheless.

[Guest]

IN Ft13 3 he was hung by a rope.

[Guest Ravenbomb]

And Robin (I think) hit him in the head with an Ax(e). If they'd ended it with that or part 4 I'd have been content.

 

 

 

BTW, where'd you get that Freddy vs. Jason pic? Is it real? where can I get a copy of that movie? Do you think Kane Hodder would be a good choice to play Bane in a Batman movie?

[Guest]

I would want the movies to keep on coming.  There is arumor that Kane Hodder has been in all of the Batman movies, as a thug that gets beaten easily.

[Guest]

IN Ft13 3 he was hung by a rope.

Correct, but then he escaped and eventually got killed by an axe to the head (giving his mask the infamous crack).

[Guest evenflowDDT]

Anyone care to know the original plot of the Halloween movies?  It goes back to a Celtic myth, Samhain, which would eventually be Christised to become Halloween.  It was on November first.  Sacrifices would be made for the "new year", crops, animals, and even humans were sacrificed.  Masks were of course worn to scare off evil spirits.

 

It is possible that Michael's victims are sacrifices.  Note: I'm only going by part one with this analogy.

I believe the Celtic myth aspect comes into play in Halloween 6, but that it only makes sense in the fabled "producer's cut".

 

As for Jason X, I saw it last night, and panned it on IMDb, but I wasn't expecting anything and I got what I paid for... two hella funny scenes and one great killing.  Given that two of those three have already been spoiled on this board, I don't have to worry about my IMDb "no spoilers" policy:

 

- One of the first "future" scenes, when that annoying guy who kinda looks like Carrot Top knocks over the frozen Jason and inadvertently gets his arm cut off was the second funniest thing I've ever seen in a Friday the 13th film.

- The famous sleeping bag holodeck scene was hilarious, the funniest thing I've ever seen in a Friday the 13th film.  I didn't know it was a parody of a scene in an earlier Ft13th movie until I read this thread, because I've only seen this one, Jason Goes to Hell, and parts of Friday the 13th Part III.

- Yes, the frozen/shattered face killing was awesome, the best (in a traditional sense) in the movie by far.

 

I was actually surprised at how little gore there was, I was expecting a LOT more since I heard about a cut disembowelment scene and how this was supposed to have the highest body count for a Ft13th movie for months before their release... are either of those true, or did I just put too much stock in false pre-production rumors?

[Guest J*ingus]

I just saw Jason X earlier tonight.  Quick thoughts:

 

THE GOOD

-Either Kane Hodder is slowly learning how to act, or he's just growing on me, because it seemed this time like Jason was an actual character, with specific mannerisms, instead of his usual robot-like self.  

-The special effects were surprisingly good, considering it is a F13 flick after all.  

-It wasn't quite as relentlessly stupid as some of the others in the series.  

-That one priceless scene on the holodeck that had us rolling in the aisle with laughter.  

-The black soldier, the android, and the long-haired geek all turned in good performances.  

 

THE BAD

-Every other actor besides those three absolutely sucked, the leading woman is one of the blandest hero(ine)s I've ever seen.  

-Jason seemed to be on a quest to murder all the more skilled actors, more interesting characters, and more attractive women as soon as possible, giving us the leftovers for the second half of the movie.  

-So this is the future, huh?  A spaceship with practically no lights on the inside, metal doors that can be shredded by bare hands, guns that seem a lot like ours, clothes that are yawningly ordinary, no neat gadgets or anything.  The only actual "futuristic" touches were the android and the nanites.  

-I think the owners of the Alien movies could actually sue the filmmakers of Jason X amd win, they copied and ripped off those films so much.  Just watch the preppy kids trying to act like tough Marines and try not to laugh.    

-The movie had way too many expendable characters, and way too many of them looked exactly alike, so it was easy to get confused.  

-At one point, a guy that looked all the world like Steve Austin shared a scene with a guy that looked all the world like NWA Wildside's Sal Del Rio.  It was hard not to make smark jokes, and lots of 'em.  

 

 

All in all, it's an F13 flick, what were you expecting?  It is one of the better entries in the series, though.  And evenflow, yeah I'd say this one had easily the highest body count of the F13 series, and in a couple of places I thought I detected the scent of gory shots that had been edited out.

[Guest evenflowDDT]

There were no slasher movies before Halloween, it started it.

Actually, wasn't the first slasher movie called something like Black Christmas? Don't remember the exact title because I've never seen it (not really a slasher movie fan), but I think it came out a year or two before Halloween.

[Guest]

There were no slasher movies before Halloween, it started it.

Actually, wasn't the first slasher movie called something like Black Christmas? Don't remember the exact title because I've never seen it (not really a slasher movie fan), but I think it came out a year or two before Halloween.

Psycho-  1960

Texas Chainsaw Massacre-  1973

[Guest evenflowDDT]

There were no slasher movies before Halloween, it started it.

Actually, wasn't the first slasher movie called something like Black Christmas? Don't remember the exact title because I've never seen it (not really a slasher movie fan), but I think it came out a year or two before Halloween.

Psycho-  1960

Texas Chainsaw Massacre-  1973

Whoa! I wouldn't call Psycho or TCM slasher flicks in any sense of the word.  Both have next to no gore, and are based more on suspense and shocks than straight-up slaughter.  Either that, or I'm getting the definition of a slasher flick wrong...

[Guest]

First off, I'd like to say that Black Christmas is one of the best horror movies ever made, and it certainly inspired a lot of future films.

 

Although I can see it being considered the first "slasher" movie, it's more psychological than slasher. Halloween was the first film to have an "unstoppable, masked killer" which became a genre all it's own.

 

Either way, do yourself a favour and watch Black Christmas if you haven't seen it. It's amazing.

[Guest Ravenbomb]

Psycho is not a Slasher movie. First of all, only 2 people die. Texas Chainsaw Massicre isn't REALLY a slasher movie because once the killings start they pretty much get them out of the way so they can get to the heroine traped in the house parts. The sequils would fit into the genre moreso than the first one, but parts 2 and 4 are just unwatchable, and part 3 is just average, so why bother, I ask you?

 

Unrelated subject:

Is it just me or did Jason's face look completely different in part 7 then from the rest of the series? He always had the eye all droopy and stuff but in TNB his face looked more skelital (sp?) like. And am I the only one who wanted to see his face earlier just to see his expression when she started using her psychic powers on him?

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

Woah.

 

Wes Cravens New Nightmare owned.

 

That is all.

[Guest]

Part 7 by far had the best Jason "face" and the best Jason "look". Having the bones protrude out from his clothing rocked.

[Guest Ravenbomb]

It just seemed to me that his face just didn't work as 'Jason'. They should've saved the unmasking for part 4 to make it REALLY effective.

 

That's one thing Halloween had over F13. Aside from a brief glimpes in part 1 (and barely even then) you never saw his face. No Michael, just Shatner.

 

And that mask in F13 pt 2 looked suspiciously like the Town that Dreaded Sundown

[Guest Just call me Dan]

At one point, a guy that looked all the world like Steve Austin shared a scene with a guy that looked all the world like NWA Wildside's Sal Del Rio.  It was hard not to make smark jokes, and lots of 'em.  

 

That Wasn't Ol Stone Cold was it?  Someone I kow who isn't a big wrestling fan swore Steve got his ass handed to him in Jason X, and I just didn't believe him.  Can anyone confirm this?

[Guest J*ingus]

It wasn't him, actually it was the screenwriter, but there was a resemblence.

[Guest KOR420]

the only thing that sucked about this movie was that everyone had something smart to say and tried to be funny when it really wasnt,like when that black guy got "Killed" he was like "It'll take more than a poke in the ribs to take down this old dog" *Jason stabs him again* "Yep that outta do it" shit like that was what made this movie stupid,the killing scenes were great though,Kane Hodder as always comes through

[Guest evenflowDDT]

Kane Hodder as always comes through

No-one can beat Kane! Oh, except for GUNNAR HANSEN! Actually, Kane did work on the stunts in Leatherface: Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3, so, in regards to really big imposing horror movie villains that are hard to kill he does have a slight edge over ol' Gunnar, even if Gunnar's Leatherface is the best.

 

Out of curiosity, are any of Hodder's non-Jason roles particularly good or memorable? I looked on IMDb and it seems like they're all just bit parts.  I'll admit I haven't seen the majority of those films though.