Leafs vs. islanders

[Guest DrEvil]

Story: Injury intent denied

 

Is Peca even serious about premeditation?  He's not being specific in any way, so it's left to a guess of a comment of "I'm gonna nail your ass" constitutes a premeditated act.  If he bothers to watch the replays he can clearly see that Tucker came in for the hit and went straight off the ice.  If you're trying to hurt someone, you'll try it, then look to see if you accomplished your goal.  Tucker did screw up by coming in for the hit too low, but this happens.  Peca was hurt because he was busy admiring his pass and didn't ready himself for the hit.  If you believe that someone's out to hurt you, then you make damn sure you see them coming.

 

He goes on about threat of off-ice violence.  Oh, so now "I'm gonna kick your ass in the alley" is supposed to be taken as a legitimate threat of intended violence?  Give me a break.

[Guest starvenger]

I guess it's all dependent on point of view.  Tucker did apparently say that he was "gonna kill Peca" but in sports that's generally just viewed as talk and not an actual threat.

 

Now was Tucker gonna hit Peca?  Damn straight, if he had the chance.  It's hockey, and if Peca had Tucker lined up he'd do the same thing.  

 

Was it premeditated?  In a sense, it was.  You have to go after the marquee players - obviously not with malicious intent - and wear them down or they're gonna burn you.  So Peca, being the player that he is, is obviously a target, as an Alex Mogilny would be on Toronto.

 

Now as for the hit itself, I don't think there was intent to injure.  If there was, Tucker did an amazing job of hiding that fact, as it looked like a good hit.  Not exactly Bryan Marchment blatant, if you ask me.  

 

I feel bad for Peca, but I think that once he's had more of a chance to reevaluate things, he'll realize that it was an unfortunate accident and that these things happen in a high-impact sport like hockey.

[Guest]

comeon, the hit on johnnson was brutal, and the hit on peca was way too low, he sharted high and then killed him on the hip check, if you want to call "it" that.  When webb hits, its straight up and by the book, same with cairnes.  If they did that shit to lemieux they would be banned from hockey for good.  Fuck the maple leafs and their dirty play, and FUCK PAT QUINN

 

-Rob

[Guest treble charged]

comeon, the hit on johnnson was brutal, ...

-Rob

For anyone who thinks the Jonsson hit was brutal, take a look at Game 3 (or 4,  I'm not 100% sure) of the Canucks/Red Wings series.  Bertuzzi hit Chris Chelios with a hit that is almost identical to the Jonsson hit, the only difference is that Jonsson was not as well prepared to take it as Chelios was.

[Guest DrTom]

Peca was cheap-shotted.  The intent was clear.  It's just like diving at a QB's knees in the NFL.  Sure, hockey is a fast and violent sport, but there's no excuse for deliberately trying to injure the other team's star players.  Everyone wants to win, but if you have to win like a pussy and take out everyone who could beat you, then fuck you and I hope you lose.

[Guest redbaron51]

I'm surprised that Tucker didn't get suspended for that hip check.

 

But with Corson not in game seven, Yashin will light up that lamp.

[Guest MaxPower27]

I agree with redbaron, if the isles are going to win, Yashin had better light up Cujo like a X-mas tree. I don't understand why Tucker didn't get suspended for his "hip check" and Corson got suspended for his kicking incident after getting his ass kicked.

[Guest DrEvil]

If the intent was clear and the injury was intentional, then why didn't he come in with a cross check to the face?  Yes that would have resulted in a suspension, but if his intention was to injure, thus winning the pussy way of taking out the best players, then you don't consider consequences.

 

I'm not disputing that it was a bad hit.  In the regular season, a hit like that would get you a couple of games.  But absolutely nothing about Tucker's actions suggested that he was making an attempt to injure.  He came in to throw a check as hard as legally possible, and fucked up by going to low. A bad hit, but a hell of a lot worse could have been done if he wanted to.

[Guest redbaron51]

He came in to throw a check as hard as legally possible, and fucked up by going to low. A bad hit, but a hell of a lot worse could have been done if he wanted to.

Really...fucked up? Darcy knows how to throw a decent hip check. That was to take him out of the knees, just to piss him off.

 

Though i don't think Tucker expected to see Peca get hurt though.

[Guest MaxPower27]

Really...fucked up? Darcy knows how to throw a decent hip check. That was to take him out of the knees, just to piss him off.

 

Though i don't think Tucker expected to see Peca get hurt though.

Tucker got fucked up pretty bad though in game 6, who was it, Webb? that checked really friggin' hard into the glass, then Tucker and Bates got into it, while Corson got the living fuck beat out of him.

[Guest]

even though I am sad about the islanders losing and mad about how dirty toronto played for the first 5 games of the series, game 7 was one of the ebst games I have seen all season, and definitly the best of the playoffs.  What are your thoughs?

 

--Rob

[Guest treble charged]

Please explain to me how the Leafs played dirty?  Roberts' hit was borderline at most, and the Tucker hit on Peca was a legal hipcheck.

[Guest starvenger]

Personally I thought that both teams played ugly, but dirty?  It's all media hype, from the largest media centre in North America.

[Guest MaxPower27]

Please explain to me how the Leafs played dirty?  Roberts' hit was borderline at most, and the Tucker hit on Peca was a legal hipcheck.

If that was a hipcheck, Hulk Hogan does a tope con hilo at Judgment Day. Tucker's shoulder came in contact with Peca's knee, how is that a hipcheck? Peca was anticipating a clean, run of the mill shoulder check, instead, he's got a torn MCL and ACL? How do you justify Peca's ACL and MCL getting torn on a hipcheck?

 

Roberts was borderline, but it was charging and even the NHL admitted that the officials blew that call.

[Guest]

treble, legal hip check to the knees? after he said he was going after him.  Put two and two together dude, get a clue.  Also Pat Quinn is gay, bottem line he is a dirty coach.  Dirty coach combined with someone who says they are going after peca to hurt him, and then peca gets hurt.  Its basic match

 

--Rob

[Guest MaxPower27]

 Also Pat Quinn is gay,

What does Pat Quinn's sexual orientation have to do with anything?

[Guest]

ok, incase you didn;t pick it up, gay meant an asshole or something along those lines.  The word is not only used for fags but is also spread out to ass's like pat quinn

 

--Rob

[Guest treble charged]

Also Pat Quinn is gay, ....

See, you may have a valid argument here, until, that is, you say stupid things about people's sexual orientation.  And, too call him a dirty coach when Laviollette did basically the same things througout the series, makes no sense.

[Guest treble charged]

ok, incase you didn;t pick it up, gay meant an asshole or something along those lines.  The word is not only used for fags but is also spread out to ass's like pat quinn

 

--Rob

What the hell logic are you using?

[Guest]

bah, weebs hits were all clean and solid.  The leafs just play dirty, when you have a guy like domi on your team, it kind of looms over your head.  Also it has been documented that they have played dirty in the past.  Hard checking is not the issue, but elbows to peoples heads when they are not looking, and hip checks to the knees are bad play.  You would ahve heard some shit if it was lemieux and not peca, I guaruntee like a life penalty or something along those lines.  Fuck that

 

--Rob

[Guest Jericholic82]

well Im not a real big hockey fan, but I was rooting for the islanders, being that I am a native of NY.  But they lost fair and square. I agree that the series got ugly at times, especially in game six, when they just started fighting at tthe end and that one leafs player was making faces at the fans who were taunting him lmao. (sorry I dont know names, like I said I am not really a hockey fan).  but anyways, treble, congrats to you.  see an american can be nice to a candian lol

 

have fun watching the rest of the playoffs, cuz I wont pay attention much now that the only team I liked in there is gone.

 

and does anyone else think that the nba/nhl playoofs last too damn long?

[Guest dreamer420]

and does anyone else think that the nba/nhl playoofs last too damn long?

nhl, no

 

nba, yes

[Guest starvenger]

>bah, weebs hits were all clean and solid.  

 

Which of course is why he was only visible on the Island.  He pulls the same shit in Toronto he's in the box.

 

>The leafs just play dirty, when you have a guy like domi on your team, it kind of looms over your head.  

 

I can't disagree that Domi is the kind of player that makes the rest of the team look worse.  His boneheadedness is legendary.  Corson's kick didn't help either.  BTW Don Cherry's defence of that kick (it was an attempt to knee the guy in the head) was about the dumbest thing ever.

 

>Also it has been documented that they have played dirty in the past.  Hard checking is not the issue, but elbows to peoples heads when they are not looking, and hip checks to the knees are bad play.  You would ahve heard some shit if it was lemieux and not peca, I guaruntee like a life penalty or something along those lines.  Fuck that

 

People make that argument all the time, but the truth is that if it's a dirty hit, the league will try and act accordingly.

[Guest treble charged]

and does anyone else think that the nba/nhl playoofs last too damn long?

The one thing I don't understand is why the first round of the NBA playoffs are only best of 5, when it takes them 2+ weeks to play all of the games.  Look at the Raptors/Pistons series, game 4 was on Monday night, but they don't play game 5 until Thursday.  Why is this?  It's not like they need a lot of time to travel from Toronto to Detroit.

[Guest DrTom]

"Look at the Raptors/Pistons series, game 4 was on Monday night, but they don't play game 5 until Thursday.  Why is this?"

 

Maximum TV exposure = maximum money.  The NBA wants to put as many games on TV as possible, even if it means spreading out the schedule to a ridiculous degree.

[Guest treble charged]

Maximum TV exposure = maximum money.  The NBA wants to put as many games on TV as possible, even if it means spreading out the schedule to a ridiculous degree.

 

If that was the case, then why wouldn't they just play a 7 game series, which would allow for another game or two to be broadcast for each series.