Guest EI Cubano Report post Posted May 2, 2002 ...and back to the Eastern Conference Finals, keep the faith. Discuss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest What?! Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I want them to make it all the way to the finals... so I can see Shaq give Mutombo facials again and again and again and again and again... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EI Cubano Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Or so we can see Eric Snow and Aaron Mckie outplay the Lakers overpriced and underachieving guards (besides Kobe). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Really, the Sixers' road to the finals is clearer than the Leafs' path to the Stanley Cup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JHawk Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I'd rather see the Celtics take it myself. Not because I hate Philly, but I don't see anybody but the Lakers reaching the finals and the Celtics' outside shooting gives them the best chance of pulling off the upset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 2, 2002 You can't count this F'n team out. Once again they save Philly from qutting on their sports teams. DONT think I forgot all of you on the old board in December who dissed me when I said dont count the Sixers out.(I didnt have this name, and do not really post anymore) Iverson=CLutch El Cubano, I didn't know you were a Sixers fan. Can you believe that before game 3 they were thinking of trading Al again. For Brian Grant and Eddie Jones. Arent you from Florida you bastard. If Al went to Miami I'd be pissed and youd have the answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EI Cubano Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Yeah, I am from North Florida and was a huge Heat fan back in the glory days of Tim Hardaway being the best PG in the game and Zo kicking ass. I think the Eddie Jones, Grant trade would be horrible as he is the marquee player for the Sixers, all NBA second team and only getting better as his injuries slowly heal. Not only would their attendance drop, but so would their heart. With Eddie Jones and BG the Sixers would be just another 7/8 seed type team who will never reach any higher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I thought New Jersey was the best team but if they can't handle the Pacers, how can they hold Sixers, Pistons or Celtics? Philly can easily go along way with Mr. A.I but only if they get pass Boston. Boston looks stronger overall and unless Dallas can knock L.A off...Celtics are the only strong east team that can stop Shaq and Kobe. Besides...L.A/Boston sounds perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted May 2, 2002 friggin celtics..hope they arent doing the same thing the bruins did..take the opponent too lightly and let em sneak it away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Or so we can see Eric Snow and Aaron Mckie outplay the Lakers overpriced and underachieving guards (besides Kobe). The team with the most points wins, not the team whose guards play the best. If you want them to make the Finals so that you can enjoya moral victory. Yeah, I am from North Florida and was a huge Heat fan back in the glory days of Tim Hardaway being the best PG in the game and Zo kicking ass. When was that, two years ago? Tim Hardaway and Zo were together last year weren't they? They weren't kicking any ass, but huge fans don't hop onto bandwagons. don't see anybody but the Lakers reaching the finals The Lakers vs the Lakers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Quote don't see anybody but the Lakers reaching the finals The Lakers vs the Lakers. now thats funny! The ball is stolen from Shaq..........BY SHAQ!!!!!!!!!1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I thought New Jersey was the best team but if they can't handle the Pacers, how can they hold Sixers, Pistons or Celtics? Philly can easily go along way with Mr. A.I but only if they get pass Boston. Boston looks stronger overall and unless Dallas can knock L.A off...Celtics are the only strong east team that can stop Shaq and Kobe. Besides...L.A/Boston sounds perfect. The Nets are still the best team in the East. They are playing a Indiana team that very well should have been the 3-4 seed in the East. The went on a long losing streak after aquiring their new players and had to adjust...and they did right before the season ended. I think that the Pacers could take most teams in the East...hopefully they won't take the Nets, though, because they have the talent and depth to take a team from the west. And I STILL don't think that everyone should just assume the Lakers are going to the finals. I just don't see the Lakers running over the Mavs. Shaq will give you like 30 and 10...Dirk is going to give you 30 and 10 with the lakers PF guarding him. Next you have Kobe giving 25-30. Steve Nash will give the Mavs 20 + the other 20 from Finley + whatever Nick Van Exel can give you.(usually in the 20's) I just think that the Mavs have the firepower to take the lakers. Any team that can have 5 players on the court in thier true positions that can hit the peremeter shot, you are in trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted May 2, 2002 By saying that Dirk Nowitski can give you 30 and 10, you are putting out stats for him on his best night. In a playoff game, Shaq can give you 40 and 20 with 8 assists, especially with the Dallas frontcourt. Last year he almost had a quadruple double. Kobe can go for 40 and get a triple-double too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingpk Report post Posted May 2, 2002 The Celtics are relying on the three WAY too much, Walker took two really bad shots at the end of both games and Pierce couldn't get it together last night. Plus, just point at Iverson and he goes to the line. No bias there, no sir. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I saw Iverson trip someone running down the floor on a break, but they let it go. Antoine Walker always shows poor judgement when taking shots, but his coach lets him get away with it. You can't say anything to superstar players though because players are so uncoachable these days, you will end up in a 3-way struggle with management and the player. Ultimately it becomes lopsided because management usually sides with the player and the coach gets fired. When Barkley talks about how no one can play, you can look at the relationship between superstars and coaches. It's no coincidence the Lakers are the best team in the NBA right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ant_7000 Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I think the Hornets have the best chance in the east they have impressed me in the orlando series, because their ablity to win on the road and they do have some depth and size to at least matchup with any team in west. So my prediction ya'll heard it first here. Who ever comes out of west will the championship. Hornets/Lakers or Hornets/Mavs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted May 2, 2002 By saying that Dirk Nowitski can give you 30 and 10, you are putting out stats for him on his best night. In a playoff game, Shaq can give you 40 and 20 with 8 assists, especially with the Dallas frontcourt. Last year he almost had a quadruple double. Kobe can go for 40 and get a triple-double too. Dirk has been averaging 30 and 15 against one of if not the best power fowards in the game in Kevin Garnett(Mr. All defensive 1st team). Are you saying that Horry and Walker will do a better job?? Shaq just averaged 30 and 11 against Shwn Kemp and Dale Davis. I'm Sorry, but I will take Raef Lafrentz, Shawn Bradly and Wang Zu-Zu doing a slightly better job than 6-10 Davis and 6-10 Kemp did. And you have to llok at the fact that rather he wants to admit it or not, he is hurt. Kobe has been completely out of control in the playoffs. He isn't showing the poise that he had during the season. He has already gotten away with 1 thrown punch and 3 elbows that should have gotten him suspended. He is letting people rattle him now. If Finley goes on one of his scoring streaks, the way Kobe has been playing, He will start trying to go shot for shot and that won't be good for the lakers. PLUS Adrian Griffin and Greg Buckner will be the x-factors...they might not stop Kobe, but they are 2 of the best defensive guards in the game. THEN you have to add one more little thing...NICK VAN EXEL OWNS THE LAKERS!!! Dude MURDERS their point guards everytime they play. I just think there will be too many points coming from too many places for the Mavs. Then again, they could lose to the kings and all this talk will be for naught. BTW, if the Sonics beat the Spurs(and I pray they don't) don't sleep on them. They suck against most teams in the leage but are one of the few teams in the league that have shown they can consistantly beat the Lakers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted May 2, 2002 You're in here shilling like Jim Ross! You're making me want to see this matchup! The X Factor isn't going to be two guards on the Mavericks though. It's going to be the man with the 8 championship rings, soon to be 9. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ant_7000 Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I'll take Phil Jackson over depth too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I think that the Mavs opperate without really listening to Nelly. I mean, last year, he said they weren't good enough to beat the Spurs after game 2...GAME 2... This year he said that they aren't good enough to win the championship. If I had to hear my coach say stuff like that, I would basically be like screw this guy. And no, I don;t think the 2 guards will be enough to beat the Lakers. But the Laker have Shaq and Kobe. The Mavs have Dirk and Nash/Finley. After that, I would have to give the edge to the Mavs. Nagjara, Lafrentz, Zui-Zui, Van Excel and others, I will take all day over Fisher, Horry and Fox.(and sometimes George, but beyound that the Laker bench gets aweful...Richmond?? Hunter?? Madsen??) Yes, this is the match-up that I want to see. Meaning that it probably won't happen. I just wish that Shaq was healthy. I hate when teams lose due to injury. Like last year. The lakers almost didn't lose a game, but they got a 1st round Blazers without Wells, a second round Kings with a gimpy Webber and a 3rd round Spurs with no Derek Anderson. Not saying they wouldn't have won, but I would have liked to see the best each has to offer go head up. Shaq is a little gimpy now(can't you tell? He is puttin gup a measly 28 and 11. ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I think the Hornets have the best chance in the east they have impressed me in the orlando series, because their ablity to win on the road and they do have some depth and size to at least matchup with any team in west. So my prediction ya'll heard it first here. Who ever comes out of west will the championship. Hornets/Lakers or Hornets/Mavs The question there is: Can the Hornets sell more than 10,000 tickets for an NBA final game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ant_7000 Report post Posted May 2, 2002 No, dont need to they are a good road team, if they did make it to finals they'll proably have bandwagon effect, its a shame they dont get home support like they us to because Baron Davis is worth the price of admission alone, but it all comes down to the fans dont like their owner Shinn so the team has to suffer for it when its not the teams fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I would not be shocked if Charlotte did a run to the conf. finals and seeing only 10,000 for a 20,000 seat arena. My real question? Why would you move a team to New Orleans? It's not like it's gonna become the big "thing", just another venue to get drunk. St. Louis, Kansas City, Kentucky,Cincinnati have Basketball history (as does N.O) but in those cities, Basketball would be bigger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Do Cincinnati or any city in Kentucky have a big enough arena for the NBA? I know that St. Louis definitely does, and I guess Kemper would be OK for KC, but I guess the NBA figures that New Orleans offers the best package. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Talent doesn't mean victory. Before Jackson was the coach of the Lakers, the Lakers had talent but couldn't win. The Blazers have had talent but can't win. Man on man matchups don't neccesarily mean great defense. There is something to be said for team defense and the Lakers have very good team defense. That has been something that Jackson has had during all of his championship runs. He hasn't neccesarily had the best teams, but he has had good defense. The last championship was won with Jordan, Pippen, a rugged ass rebounder and role players at the rest of the positions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Cincy has Firstar arena which the size of Kemper Arena. St. Louis has the Kiel Center. I just don't see N.O giving a huge fanbase, since it's more of a Tourist city (which is why no intelligent business man would establish an Sports team in Vegas, other then Mr. McMahon). Why couldent Hornets moved to Raligh (sp?) in that new Arena they have their and become the Carolina Hornets? Same fanbase. Is N.O gonna be called the Hornets? New Orleans Hornets sounds worse then Utah Jazz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted May 3, 2002 I'm surprised that people are thinking that the Mavs will beat the Kings and move on to the CF. The Mavs defense is like a gigantic sieve and when going against another team that loves to spread it out AND play some decent defense, they are seriously fucked. Hell, I don't know a single front court player on Dallas that can match up with Scott Pollard(maybe LaFrentz, but he's always seemed kinda shakey to me) and Pollard's a damned bench player. No matter how Dallas scores, they still have to play some D and they really haven't shown that so far. If they look past the Kings, it may come back to bite Nelly on the ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 3, 2002 They're moving because the fans hate the owners. Every person I've talked to in school or at work... anywhere. Must of them want the Hornets to go, just do we don't have to put up with the bullshit owners. It's a tough time to lose a team because the future was looking so bright with Baron and Magloire leading the way for years to come. Last year in the Eastern Semi's, we sold out against Milwaukee, although I don't expect the same results against the Nets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted May 3, 2002 24 hours from now, the 76ers bandwagon will go down in flames. Where will everyone jump when this happens? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ripper Report post Posted May 3, 2002 I'm surprised that people are thinking that the Mavs will beat the Kings and move on to the CF. The Mavs defense is like a gigantic sieve and when going against another team that loves to spread it out AND play some decent defense, they are seriously fucked. Hell, I don't know a single front court player on Dallas that can match up with Scott Pollard(maybe LaFrentz, but he's always seemed kinda shakey to me) and Pollard's a damned bench player. No matter how Dallas scores, they still have to play some D and they really haven't shown that so far. If they look past the Kings, it may come back to bite Nelly on the ass. Actually, most people seem to think that the Kings will win, despite the fact that Dallas owned them in the regular season. Bibby can' match up with Nash, Christie can't match up with Finley, Stoiakavic will have a great defender attached to him(Buckner or Griffin) Webber can score, but can't match-up with Dirk, and Vlade and Raef are basically the same player only Raef can run the floor better. Then Bobby Jackson can't match up with Nick Van Excel, Najara will runs circles around pollard on the offensive end(Pollard will own him on the boards, though)...It just keeps coming down to who has the most offense. They both like to run that sprint pace, up an down shoot fast offense, and basically, noone can beat the Mavs in this kind of game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites