iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Mock BCS Standings USC 1604 0.987 1507 0.988 47 0.94 0.972 Georgia 1491 0.918 1398 0.917 46 0.92 0.918 Miami 1409 0.867 1347 0.883 49.5 0.99 0.913 Oklahoma 1560 0.960 1462 0.959 27 0.54 0.820 Texas 1358 0.836 1283 0.841 37 0.74 0.806 Auburn 1305 0.803 1189 0.780 39 0.78 0.788 Cal 1180 0.726 1116 0.732 28 0.56 0.673 FSU 1149 0.707 1049 0.688 29 0.58 0.658 Purdue 1047 0.644 952 0.624 32 0.64 0.636 Utah 937 0.577 876 0.574 36 0.72 0.624 Virginia 1036 0.638 966 0.633 15 0.3 0.524 Minnesota 722 0.444 684 0.449 26 0.52 0.471 Boise St. 396 0.244 442 0.290 36 0.72 0.418 ASU 507 0.312 314 0.206 36 0.72 0.413 Tennessee 551 0.339 519 0.340 18 0.36 0.346 Florida 866 0.533 731 0.479 1 0.02 0.344 Ohio St. 547 0.337 643 0.422 13 0.26 0.339 Okla. St. 360 0.222 353 0.231 27 0.54 0.331 Michigan 666 0.410 644 0.422 8 0.16 0.331 Wisconsin 650 0.400 597 0.391 0 0 0.264 source: ESPN.com That's right if the season ended today, Georgia, not Oklahoma would be playing for the national title. Of course, Oklahoma's probably gonna get a nice boost if they beat Texas; and over the course of the season, the computer rankings will level out, as all the teams between Georgia and Oklahoma lose. However, USC is the only team in the country that truly controls their own destiny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 The BCS ceased being relevant when they re-adjusted the formula (and took out strength-of-schedule, a move that sucks) and made the human polls so much of the equation, so who gives a shit? Might as well just junk it and go back to the old poll system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 The results this early in the season, when most teams have only played four games and a few only three, are irrelevent. That's why they don't release them until late October. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Heh. I was just think about what would happen if they just used the old bowl selection system for this season: Rose- USC(Pac 10) vs. Purdue(Big Ten) Orange- Oklahoma(Big XII) vs. West Virginia(Big East) Sugar- Georgia(SEC) vs. Miami(ACC) Fiesta- Auburn(at large) vs. Texas(at large) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Hell 2000 was great as an old-school big four bowl setup: Orange: OU (Big 8/12 champ) vs FSU Sugar: Mia vs Fla (SEC) Fiesta: Ore St vs ND Rose: Wash (P10) vs Purdue (B10) Not sure that I wouldn't rather go back to that honestly, it's not like a playoff's headed 1-A's way in the next decade................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 collegefootballnews.com once had a setup for what the 2001 BCS bowls would have been like if the old system was still in place.... Orange: Miami(Big East) vs. Colorado(Big 8/12) Rose: Illinois(Big Ten) vs. Oregon(Pac 10) Sugar: LSU(SEC) vs. Maryland(ACC) Fiesta: Nebraska vs. Florida Funny because I believe Colorado was in 3rd in the BCS poll behind Nebraska. In this set-up, had Colorado and Oregon won, they'd split the national title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 The BCS hurts my head. When they started explaining why USC wasn't in the National Title game last year and showing all the different games that had an impact on there destiny it just made my head hurt. "Ok so b/c America invaded Iraq USC lost 2 points but b/c Freddy Adu kicked a goal in this game USC gained 3 points....." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Rose: Illinois(Big Ten) vs. Oregon(Pac 10) I always felt bad that the Illini didn't play in the Rose Bowl that year. No offense to the Sugar, but for the Big 10 Champ you're first choice is always Pasadena. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted October 4, 2004 That doesn't surprise me at all. Look at the teams OU has been playing against. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 That's true, although OU will get a nice boost if they beat Texas. But after that, it seems that Oklahoma State and maybe Texas A&M will be the only opponents that will help them out on the schedule. USC will get boosts if they beat California and Arizona State, and Georgia and Auburn will get help due to wins over SEC teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 That doesn't surprise me at all. Look at the teams OU has been playing against. Oh well excuse the fuck out of us. We scheduled the 3 non-conference opponents based off the fact that they all played in Bowl Games last season. Nobody knew they would suck total ass this year. Nebraska will be a challenge. Nebraska is always a challenge. OSU and A&M will be hard to. Jesus Flyboy what the hell do you have against OU anyways? And don't say it's b/c I like them so much. You seriously have some kind of hatred for them that I can't explain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 That doesn't surprise me at all. Look at the teams OU has been playing against. Oh well excuse the fuck out of us. We scheduled the 3 non-conference opponents based off the fact that they all played in Bowl Games last season. Nobody knew they would suck total ass this year. Nebraska will be a challenge. Nebraska is always a challenge. OSU and A&M will be hard to. Jesus Flyboy what the hell do you have against OU anyways? And don't say it's b/c I like them so much. You seriously have some kind of hatred for them that I can't explain. ... I'm looking for the hatred, and I'm coming up blank. Their strength of schedule sucks, so they're ranked lower. Doesn't take someone with a "grudge" against OU to see that. Calm down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 If Texas beats Oklahoma on Saturday, we may see a coniption(sp?) fit of Anglesault-level proportions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Nah if Texas beats Oklahoma I'll just be like "LOSERS!" and move on to wishing for next season to get here. No Flyboy has stated before that he watches OU games hoping for them to lose. So he must have something against them if he's doing that. Oh and there schedule is no weaker than USC's. SC plays Cal, ND, and VT. OU plays Texas, OSU, and Nebraska and they scheduled Oregon thinking they'd be better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Don't forget Arizona State. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2004 Well everyone asks like they intentionally have a weak schedule. No they stated that they scheduled those 3 non-conference teams b/c they thought they would be better and all 3 were in Bowl Games last season. And they can't helpo if there conference decided to suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 I just figured out several games we could actually lose very easily this year. Texas: Texas is ready this year and they have typically had problems on defense in the past. Well they have a new defensive coordinator to slow us down with. They just have a moron holding the clipboard. KSU: even though they have less talent Bill Snyder knows what he's doing against us. OSU: I mean the Cowboys train for this all year. And they could possibly run all over our defense. Nebraska: they're still learning there offense but they always play us tough. Texas A&M: yeah we blew them out 77-0 in Norman. But we always seem to have trouble in College Station and they're improving by the day. Big XII Title game against probably Missouri: could be a KSU repeat. See we could very easily lose any of those games. That makes this year so tough on us. We haven't been challenged yet in the season so I don't know if we can pull out the big plays when it counts. And that was the problem with last year in that we weren't challenged at all except maybe by Alabama so when we were challenged we didn't know how to respond. But this year's team runs more so we don't put as many points up on the board which may look unimpressive when you look at the score but overall we have control of the games. I hope that the Texas game comes down to the wire. We really do need a regular season challenge and scare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 I'd say that out of that whole list, Texas and Oklahoma State are the only ones that even look as tough as Stanford. Strength of schedule isn't important just to punish ADs who don't schedule good teams. What it does is show how well a team is performing. A team that's undefeated against a good schedule should be placed ahead of a team that's undefeated against a mediocre schedule regardless of where someone might have possibly thought some team would be ranked when the season started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 A&M at home is still a challenge. That crowd is crazy. The fact is that the AD thought he had a nice SOS with the non-conference teams. He didn't know they were going to suck. And on top of that nobody can predict when your conference is going to suck. You can't do anything about that in the first place anyways. So should we move to a tougher conference now so everyone will see us as legit? Fact is that if we go undefeated and win the national title there will still be people bitching we don't deserve it. Just like in 2000. I remember vividly in 2000 some crazed Miami fan berate me for what seemed like an hour about how OU sucks, doesn't deserve the national title, played a weak schedule, and all this BS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 You watched college football in 2000? No one should worry about the early BCS rankings because they're going to change drastically the deeper we get into conference play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 You watched college football in 2000? No one should worry about the early BCS rankings because they're going to change drastically the deeper we get into conference play. I actually didn't. I just mentioned to a guy online that I was happy b/c the team from my state won the national title and he let me have it. Turns out he was a crazed Miami fan. My only response was "But they were undefeated....." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 I'm superstitious hardcore and my parents just came home with a shirt that says "Red River Shootout Oklahoma" in poker lettering on the front and the back says "Texas Can't Hold Em" and has cards and poker chips and one poker chip says "5x" That jinxed us. It's all over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 Actually, I could easily see both Oklahoma and USC losing this weekend. I didn't have the balls to actually pick against either of them in Bored's contest, but I kind of get that same feeling with both of them that they might not do as well this year in a big-game situation. Oklahoma's not the same efficient machine that they were last year when they'd keep playing well against Texas A&M with a 70 point lead. It seems like this year, they might be expecting to breeze through Texas, and then be shocked when the Longhorns run up a 24-7 halftime lead. I still say Texas falls apart in the end, but it seems like if there were ever a year for the Horns to spring the upset, this would be it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2004 OU is the same efficent machine they just don't run the quickstrike blow out offense anymore. They run the ball more. Instead of throwing TD pass after TD pass they eat 10 minutes off the clock while demoralizing your defense on the way to the endzone. It's still a killing machine. Just a very different machine. Plus they haven't even shown half of what they can do on offense yet. Everyone says they're hiding it for Texas. Watch there games. They run the same 10 plays. They were talking to a writer in Austin today on the radio mentioning how us in Norman view Mack Brown as a whiney little choker and they asked how the fans in Austin view Bob Stoops. The guy said "As a stonecold killer." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites