Guest David Bixenspan Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 Just put up from my friends at the DVDVR: RULES: - The people who put the list together are: Dean Rasmussen, Phil Rippa, Phil Schneider, Marcel Hille, Tom Karro-Gassner, Mike Naimark, Tony Gancarski, Ray Duffy, Pete Stein and Tim Noel. - The list is a reflection of who we feel are the 500 best wrestlers at the time the list is put out. Think of it as this - if we were going to put on a wrestling card on either Nov. 1 or May 1 - every single person on the list could work it. That is why we stick to the injury and other kayfabe policies mentioned later on. - The list is reflective, but not limited too, a wrestlers previous six month body of work. - Injuries are factored into the decision making process. ****** booking is not. But, sooner or later, you do have to make with the matches to move up and stay on the list. - We do not include wrestlers we have never seen work. - We do not include wrestlers we have not seen work in the last 12 months. This window of opportunity varies based on the availability of tapes - meaning that the easier it is to get tapes the shorter the time frame. (ex: since it is harder to get tapes from Puerto Rico, we would give them the full 12 months.) - We didn't include wrestlers who are hurt and have missed an extended period of time. Injured wrestlers must have returned to action on or before either April 30, 2001 or October 31, 2001 to be eligible. Exception - if the "injured" wrestler did not miss any dates before said deadline they would be considered eligible (all injury cases considered on case by case basis) - We didn't include wrestlers who are working angles like retirement and suspensions or worked injuries and any other old-school kayfabe angles. - The list is obviously the opinions of a few men with obvious (and some not-so obvious biases). It is done to generate wrestling discussion on the board. It is done because it gives us undo pleasure fighting amongst ourselves while the list is being cobbled together and then fighting with you all about whether Scotty Mack is really better than Califana #2 DVD 500 - Version 6.0 1) Shocker 2) Eddie Guerrero 3) El Hijo del Santo 4) Shiyna Hashimoto 5) Jushin Lyger 6) Blue Panther 7) Satoshi Kojima 8) American Dragon 9) Tatsuhito Takaiwa 10) Yuji Nagata 11) Gedo 12) Low-Ki' 13) Osamu Nishimura 14) Nicho el Millonario 15) Genichiro Tenyru 16) Doug Williams 17) Naohiro Hoshikawa 18) SUWA 19) Tiger Mask IV 20) Dr. Wagner Jr. 21) Dick Togo 22) Minoru Tanaka 23) Homicide (JAPW) 24) Ray Gonzalez 25) El Dandy 26) Steve Corino 27) Koji Kanemoto 28) El Satanico 29) Masato Tanaka 30) Christopher Daniels 31) Jun Akiyama 32) Magnum Tokyo 33) Shinjiro Ohtani 34) Rey Misterio Jr. 35) Black Tiger (Silver King) 36) Negro Navarro 37) Halloween 38) CIMA 39) Kurt Angle 40) Mitsuharu Misawa 41) Steve Austin 42) CM Punk 43) Ultimo Guerrero 44) Negro Casas 45) Takashi Sasaki 46) Felino 47) Yuki Ishikawa 48) Tarzan Boy 49) William Regal 50) Kaz Hayashi 51) Great Sasuke 52) Xavier 53) Masaaki Mochizuki 54) Chris Jericho 55) Takehiro Murahama 56) Tony Kozina 57) Rey Bucanero 58) Dixie 59) Jamie Knoble 60) Yoshihiro Tajiri 61) Zumbido 62) Vader 63) Virus 64) Ikuto Hidaka 65) Kenichiro Arai 66) Scorpio 67) Wataru Inoue 68) AKIRA 69) Yoshinobu Kanemaru 70) Taiyo Kea 71) Hideki Nishida 72) Asian Cougar 73) Atlantis 74) Katsutori Shibata 75) Olimpico 76) Genki Horiguchi 77) Katsumi Usuda 78) Masa Fuchi 79) La Parka 80) Villano IV 81) Mike Modest 82) Mike Quackenbush 83) Susumu Yokosuka 84) Mascara Magica 85) Tsuyoshi Kikuchi 86) Koki Kitahara 87) Spanky 88) Tony Rivera 89) Men's Teioh 90) Villano V 91) Black Warrior 92) Hiroyoshi Tenzan 93) Villano III 94) Super Delfin 95) Kendo Ka Shin 96) Bestia Salvaje 97) Ryo Saito 98) El Samurai 99) James Mason 100) Johnny Smith 101) Minoru Fujita 102) Takuma Sano 103) Booker T 104) CW Anderson 105) Super Shisa 106) Yoshinari Ogawa 107) Apache 108) Colt Cabana 109) Chris Hamrick 110) El Pantera 111) Antifaz del Norte 112) Kamikaze 113) Don Fuji 114) Super Boy 115) Chris Hero 116) Dr. Cerebro 117) Daisuke Ikeda 118) Super Dragon 119) Billy Kidman 120) Winger 121) Robert Thompson 122) Kazunari Murakami 123) Hurricane 124) Vinny Massaro 125) Yasushi Kanda 126) Mephisto 127) Sangre Azteca 128) Chad Collyer 129) Cham Pain 130) Spike Dudley 131) Frank Parker 132) Heavy Metal 133) Averno 134) Takao Omori 135) Akira Taue 136) Donovan Morgan 137) Preston Quinn 138) Mr. Niebla 139) Mafia 140) B-Boy 141) Bombero Infernal 142) Monsta Mack 143) Juventud Guerrera 144) A.J. Styles 145) Jay Briscoe 146) Fuerza Guerrera 147) Richard Slinger 148) Jado 149) Gran Hamada 150) Fidel Sierra 151) Micke Segura 152) Corporal Robinson 153) Darkness Dragon 154) Apolo Dantes 155) Safari 156) Red 157) Bull Pain 158) Emilio Charles Jr. 159) Excalibur 160) Scorpio Jr. 161) Chris Steel 162) El Hijo del Perro Aguayo 163) Ian Rotten 164) Keiji Mutoh 165) Dr. X 166) Dos Caras 167) Jerry Lynn 168) Ricky Marvin 169) Christian 170) Scott Powers 171) Rising Son 172) Hector Garza 173) Ryuji Yamakawa 174) Nick Dinsmore 175) Masato Yoshino 176) Roger Anderson 177) Jardi Frantz 178) Shirley Doe 179) Raven 180) Lance Cade 181) Todd Morton 182) Matt Hardy 183) Jodie Fleish 184) Lizmark Jr. 185) David Young 186) Ace Steel 187) Kid Kruel 188) Onryo 189) Tetsuhiro Kuroda 190) Dragon Makabe 191) Mark Brisco 192) Kohei Sato 193) Matt Stryker (Heartland) 194) Quiet Storm 195) KENTA 196) Dragon Kid 197) Nobutaka Araya 198) Samoa Joe 199) Goldust 200) Qeenan Creed 201) Steve Bradley 202) Lance Storm 203) Kintaro Kanemura 204) Solar I 205) Hombre Sin Nombre 206) Rambo Jr. 207) Gran Naniwa 208) Pinoy Boy 209) Milano Collection A.T. 210) James Maritato 211) Chavo Guerrero Jr. 212) Black Buffalo 213) Edge 214) Joel Maximo 215) Shannon Moore 216) Fantastik 217) Ultimo Vampiro 218) Kid Kash 219) Jose Maximo 220) Eddie Golden 221) Masao Orihara 222) Yukihide Urno 223) Jason Cross 224) Barry Horowitz 225) Orion 226) Mohammed Yone 227) BJ Whitmer 228) Billy Fives 229) Jason Dukes 230) Super Mega 231) Tom Howard 232) Jinsei Shinzaki 233) Abdullah Jr. Kobayashi 234) Yoshihiro Takayama 236) Latin Lover 237) Nick Berk 238) Ryuji Hijikata 239) EZ Money 240) Universo 2000 241) Hideki Hosaka 242) Tsubasa 243) Tomohiro Ishii 244) Trent Acid 245) Hiroshi Watanabe 245) Mike Jackson 246) Mascara Ano Dos Mil 247) Tigre Blanco 248) Rob Van Dam 249) NOZAWA 250) Joey Matthews 251) Tsunehito Naito 252) Yasaku 253) Damian 666 254) Don Montoya 255) Oscar Sevilla 256) Hiroshi Hase 257) Brett Como 258) Dylan Night 259) Alan Stone 260) Super Hentai 261) Kensuke Sasaki 262) Ricky Reyes 263) Chris Stone 264) TARU 265) Pentagon 266) Jacey North 267) X-Pac 268) GENTARO 269) Mikey Henderson 270) George Hines 271) William Wealth III 272) Orientale #1 273) Jimmy Rave 274) Violencia 275) Orientale #2 276) Jeff Hardy 277) Justice Pain 278) Jeremy Lopez 279) Necro Butcher 280) D'Lo Brown 281) Adam Firestorm 282) Ryuji Ito 283) Chris Candido 284) Dino Bambino 285) Shunme Matsusaki 286) Nick Mondo 287) El Signo 288) Billy Kim 289) Manabu Nakanishi 290) Crowbar 291) Brian XL 292) Mitsuya Nagai 293) Rick Michaels 294) Kentaro Shiga 295) Nobukazu Hirai 296) TARO 297) Machine 298) Mosco de la Merced 299) Cirujano 300) Jim Steele 301) Shadow WX 302) Superstar Steve 303) Caprice Coleman 304) Super Crazy 305) Jonny Storm 306) Arashi 307) Daioh QUALLT 308) Kazunori Yoshida 309) Chris Nelson 310) Mitch Ryder 311) Takeshi Morishima 312) Nitro 313) Marabunta 314) Super Demekin 315) Lazz 316) Rocky Romero 317) Dan Devine 318) Paul London 319) Vic Capri 320) Mikael Yamaha 321) Mitsunobu Kikuzawa 322) Sean Hill 323) Rocky Reynolds 324) Pimpinela Escarlata 325) Mr. Condor 326) Brazo de Platino 327) Psychic 328) Steve Keirn 329) Dos Caras, Jr. 330) Steve Williams 331) Gemini Kid 332) Magnus Maximus 333) Tony Jones 334) Califane #1 335) Brad Hunter 336) Kid Romeo 337) Stevie Brother Tsujimoto 338) Brazo de Plata 339) Califane #2 340) Otto Schwanz 341) Blue Wolf 342) Adam Jacobs 343) Kuishinbo Kamen 344) Shiego Okamura 345) Heaven 346) Chris Stevens 347) Brazo de Oro 348) Ric Flair 349) Yoji Anjoh 350) Shane Ballard 351) Sexton Tyler 352) Takashi Sugiura 353) Raimu Michima 354) Shannon Ballard 355) Black Dragon 356) Johnny The Bull 357) Hidoh 358) Danny Dominion 359) 2 Tuff Tony 360) Stryker 361) Adam Booker 362) Flash 363) Elix Skipper 364) Supreme Lee Great 365) Gary Steele 366) Paramedico 367) Prince Nana 368) Trevor Rhodes 369) Hiro Saito 370) Bob Evans 371) Adam Pearce 372) Tony Mamaluke 373) Mr. Mexico 374) Dr Heresey 375) Adam Flash 376) Justin Credible 377) Ricky Morton 378) Guerra C3 379) Buh Buh Ray Dudley 380) El Veneno 381) Jorge Rivera 382) Katsushi Takemura 383) El Tornando 384) Bobby Rude 385) Flash Barker 386) Austin Aries 387) Chris Devine 388) Angel Mortal 389) Frankie Kazarian 390) Tomoaki Honma 391) Jason Lee 392) El Hijo Del Diablo 393) Danny Roland 394) Tommy Dreamer 395) Masahiro Chono 396) Ray Gordy 397) Insane Dragon 398) Ultra Mega 399) Jimmy Yang 400) Derrick King 401) Butch Reed 402) Tyler Gates 403) Chance Beckett 404) Ghost Shadow 405) Luis Ortiz 406) Jeff Jarrett 407) Scotty Mack 408) Jeff Hamrick 409) Elax the Exploited Child 410) Big Valbowski 411) Bison Smith 412) Shuji Kondo 413) Horace Hogan 414) Takeshi Rikio 415) Hi69 416) Triple H 417) Macho Pump 418) Mano Negra 419) Satoru Asako 420) Gallego 421) Eddie Brown 422) Akitoshi Saito 423) Damien Dragon 424) Brandon Phoenix 425) Sho Funaki 426) Poison Sawada Julie 427) Maverick Wild 428) Shane 429) Tanomusaku Toba 430) Naoshi Sano 431) Cash Flo 432) Bull Schmidt 433) Jay Freeze 434) Showa 80s 435) Gamma 436) Matt Murphy 437) Big Vito 438) Taoru Awashi 439) Chuck Palumbo 440) Takamichi Iwasa 441) Hurricane Castillo 442) Dewey Cheatum 443) Kinya Owanagi 444) Hotstuff Hernandez 445) Hebikage 446) Seijin Akki 447) Nova 448) Takashi Tachibana 449) Yuki Nishino 450) Johnny Kashmere 451) Bobby Quance 452) Ulf Herman 453) Tadao Yuasu 454) Shusaku Wadu 455) Cobarde 456) MA-G-MA 457) Makoto Hashi 458) Chi Chi Cruz 459) Navajo Warrior 460) Mike Barton 461) Rich Myers 462) El Rockero 463) Josh Besore 464) Kazuya Yuasu 465) Tommy Logan 466) Tomohiko Hashimoto 467) Zachary Springate III 468) Super Uchu Power 469) Shark Boy 470) Crash Holly 471) Guerrillero 472) Race Steele 473) Mace Mendoza 474) Takayuki Yagi 475) Kendo 476) Zaarux La Momia 477) Showa 478) Peggaso 479) Condotti Shuji 480) Spider Nate Webb 481) Viking Taniguchi 482) Larry Blackwell 483) Mils Mascaras 484) Anthony W Mori 485) Sanshiro Takagi 486) Jay Lethal 487) Sabu 488) Miracle Man 489) El Profe 490) Violence Revenger 491) Randy Orton 492) Rainchild 493) Mr. Ooh La La 494) Azteca 495) Rey Misterio Sr. 496) Mitsuhiro Matsunaga 497) Alex Arion 498) Brian Christopher 499) Buff E 500) Jun Kasai
Guest TheHulkster Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 #413 Is representing brother! Angle and Austin shouldve gotten more love. They were ripping it up during the time period represented. Not to mention that Flair had a grand total of 1 match last year and he's #348. The Helmet tells the Hulkster that the PWI 500 is more accurate
Guest Brian Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 Austin's been in cruise control and Angle's hasn't been good enough to really move up. I've gotta check out the lucha though.
Guest Singular Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 Mexican love... El Dandy number 25!!!! I've been watching CMLL for a couple months now, and I'm kinda curious as to why Shocker would be considered number 1.
Guest converge241 Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 Interesting reading, as always from the DVD folks. wonder if they will get a statement letter from the WWF advising that only WWF.com top 500 list will be allowed. lolas.
Guest What?! Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 #401 Butch Reed is still wrestling?!?!?! Whoa!
Guest Brian Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 Supposedly, Shocker had some really great technical exhibitions that just built into amazing matches. But I'm only speculating.
Guest razazteca Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 well in the last 4 months Shocker who is the CMLL Semi Completo campion has had awesome matches against Tarzan Boy and Dr Wanger, plus his matches against the New Japan invaders are above average. check out his matches from Feb, March, April but I want to know why Blue Panther is ranked above Dr Wanger Jr? and why Los Talibanes are in the top 200?
Guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 well in the last 4 months Shocker who is the CMLL Semi Completo campion has had awesome matches against Tarzan Boy and Dr Wanger, plus his matches against the New Japan invaders are above average. check out his matches from Feb, March, April but I want to know why Blue Panther is ranked above Dr Wanger Jr? and why Los Talibanes are in the top 200? Aren't CMLL and EMLL the smae thing?.....and they are corssing over with NJPW? Also are Los Talibanes a terrorism gimmick there?
Guest razazteca Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 Aren't CMLL and EMLL the smae thing?.....and they are corssing over with NJPW? Also are Los Talibanes a terrorism gimmick there? I'm confused about the CMLL/EMLL thing also, some of them do tours in NJPW, they did the Best of the Juniors one year, Shocker, Dr Wanger, Black Tiger do regular tours in NJPW, I think. Los Talibanes is a stupid middle eastern gimmick 96) Bestia Salvaje 158) Emilio Charles Jr. 160) Scorpio Jr wear arabic robes to the ring and do stupid skits looking for camels.
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 Well it's a good thing they didn't put Hulk Hogan on that list. He doesn't deserve to be on that list at all in any way shape or form.
Guest Goodear Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 I figured I'd trim some of the guys most people wouldn't know off the list just to make it look a little less intimidating and so I can be pissier about it much easier. Their DVDR rankings are on the left... the abridged version on the right. 2) Eddie Guerrero (1) 5) Jushin Lyger (2) 26) Steve Corino (3) 30) Christopher Daniels (4) 34) Rey Misterio Jr. (5) 39) Kurt Angle (6) 41) Steve Austin (7) 49) William Regal 54) Chris Jericho (8) 59) Jamie Knoble (9) 60) Yoshihiro Tajiri (10) 62) Vader (11) 66) Scorpio (12) 79) La Parka (13) 103) Booker T (14) 104) CW Anderson (15) 109) Chris Hamrick (16) 119) Billy Kidman (17) 123) Hurricane (18) 130) Spike Dudley (19) 143) Juventud Guerrera (20) 144) A.J. Styles (21) 163) Ian Rotten (22) 164) Keiji Mutoh (23) 167) Jerry Lynn (24) 169) Christian (25) 179) Raven (26) 182) Matt Hardy (27) 199) Goldust (28) 202) Lance Storm (29) 211) Chavo Guerrero Jr. (30) 213) Edge (31) 218) Kid Kash (32) 224) Barry Horowitz (33) 239) EZ Money (34) 248) Rob Van Dam (35) 267) X-Pac (36) 276) Jeff Hardy (37) 283) Chris Candido (38) 290) Crowbar (39) 330) Steve Williams (40) 336) Kid Romeo (41) 348) Ric Flair (42) 356) Johnny The Bull (43) 363) Elix Skipper (44) 376) Justin Credible (45) 377) Ricky Morton (46) 379) Buh Buh Ray Dudley (47) 394) Tommy Dreamer (48) 406) Jeff Jarrett (49) 410) Big Valbowski (50) 413) Horace Hogan (51) 416) Triple H (52) 425) Sho Funaki (53) 437) Big Vito (54) 439) Chuck Palumbo (55) 447) Nova (56) 470) Crash Holly (57) 491) Randy Orton (58) 498) Brian Christopher (59) Sir Not Appearing in This Movie: Hulk Hogan Undertaker Faarooq Bradshaw D-Von Billy Gunn Mark Henry Big Show Willam Regal Albert Test Brock Lesner Comments to follow.
Guest Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 This list is laughable. Lets see: Edge has been worse in the last 6 months than Raven, Matt Hardy and Goldust? Wow And HHH is lower than Horace freakin Hogan. My goodness. Not that HHH has been spectacular or anything, but come on, Horace ... Horace ... freaking Horace? wow. And that's all I got to say about that.
Guest Goodear Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 1) Hi I'm Eddie Guerrero and although I'm a fantastic worker, its too soon into my latest comeback to outright declare me the second best worker in the world. 2) Hi I'm Steve Corino and I'm horribly overrated! I'm just about the most ordinary wrestler ever who manages to bleed a whole lot. I'm surely not stunningly good enough that you can tap me as the 26th best wrestler in the world above about a billion guys that are better than I am. 3) Hi I'm The Undertaker and I find it funny that even though Ric Flair had two matches in the last six months, one of the them was with me and the other with Vince McMahon, the he's the 348th best worker in the world and I'm not even ranked. I'm also not as good as Tommy Dreamer, Justin Credible, or C.W. Anderson. 4) Hi, I'm Chris Hamrick, the suckiest member of a sucky stable in a federation that went out of business. Even I don't know how the fuck I got ranked number 109. 5) Hi, I'm Triple H and I'm mildly upset that other workers coming off injuries seem to get the benefit of the doubt in these lists but I get ranked 416. 6) Hi, I'm William Regal.... WHERE DID ALL MY LOVE GO!?!?!?....(Edit) Oh wait, I'm number 49 and Goodear's stupid
Guest Your Olympic Hero Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 Is Shocker really that good? I've never seen him wrestle.
Guest Your Olympic Hero Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 And Gedo's fat ass doesn't deserve #11...
Guest Tim Cooke Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 Wake up and watch some Gedo from 2000 on. I don't know if he is deserving of #11, but he is top 40 to say the least. Tim
Guest razazteca Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 Shocker is one of the best Luchadores today, in the land of the fat, spotfest, slow Giants, Shocker is a champion that holds true to the Technico traditions. Whenever he walks the isle to the ring, you wonder WTF is he wearing today...Elvis jumpsuit, Aztec warrior, or Super Guapo, its site to see. But I think there are some wrestlers that are better than him....Dr Wanger Jr and Black Tiger (Silver King).
Guest EUX4life Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 rob van dam's only 248???? and goldust is higher than him??? WTF i never really put a lot of stock into these things anyway, but now i'll never ever believe what these dvd guys have to say. go look into the archives of lance storms commentaries to see what the wrestlers themselves have to say about these rankings
Guest The Man in Blak Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 I honestly think these guys just shuffle 500 names in a hat and just pick 'em out randomly. It's an exaggeration, but their ratings have always been somewhat ridiculous (Goodear already covered most of the main ones for this list).
Guest Tim Cooke Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 'Silver King? From WCW? Hes good now?" Yes and he was always good. But in the land of the corupt in WCW, being motivated to work hard was not always a priority on some wrestlers mind. Watch some and learn. Tim
Guest Singular Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 Yeah. After around 50 or so it just becomes a list of wrestlers. Undertaker not being on the list is just dumb since he's been doing so much better in the last year. Eddy Guererro did do indy bookings, so it's not like their ranking him just from his WWF appearences. Regal does not deserve to be that high on the list given his matches in the past year. HHH does deserve his spot. Since his return he's been shit. Are Shocker and Electro Shock the same person? Or is Shocker the guy with white hair who does the smooth behind the back tourture rack type thing submission?
Guest Mik at Cornell Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 Number 66 representing!! I might be the only person but I pray for the day he returns to the WWF. Tumbleweed!
Guest razazteca Posted May 1, 2002 Report Posted May 1, 2002 CMLL Shocker uses the spinning backbreaker AAA Electro Shock wears a mask, Hannibal Lectuar style and carries a stun gun sometimes they are 2 different people but are both semi completo campions, Electro Shock is the national semi completo campion of AAA Silver King as the new Black Tiger is a surprising great wrestler, I guess it runs in the family
Guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Posted May 2, 2002 #413 Is representing brother! Angle and Austin shouldve gotten more love. DR: Our Austin fixation wavers every six months. I expect him back in the top ten in November. They were ripping it up during the time period represented. Not to mention that Flair had a grand total of 1 match last year and he's #348. ---- DR: C'mon! He's FLAIR! DEAN.
Guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Posted May 2, 2002 YOUNG RAZAZTECA SEZ: well in the last 4 months Shocker who is the CMLL Semi Completo campion has had awesome matches against Tarzan Boy and Dr Wanger, plus his matches against the New Japan invaders are above average. DR: I also dug his match against El Hijo Del Santo in Monterrey. His selling is the coolest in the world. Especially in the Doc Wagner and Santo matches. The NJ Invaders is fun because Shibatta and Inoue look like they are having so much fun being evil bastards. check out his matches from Feb, March, April but I want to know why Blue Panther is ranked above Dr Wanger Jr? and why Los Talibanes are in the top 200? DR: Blue Panther is more consistent and better on the mat. We were going to have them co-chair the #1 spot for having the swank-assed combo FUSION~! masks. And the Talibanes? C'mon, it's Bestia, Scorpio and Emilio Charles!! Old Skool rudos rock. DEAN.
Guest Posted May 2, 2002 Report Posted May 2, 2002 Mexican love... El Dandy number 25!!!! DR: El Dandy vs Negro Navarro was like Dean Malenko vs Dean Malenko in 1993. Absolutely beautiful and completely on the mat. I've been watching CMLL for a couple months now, and I'm kinda curious as to why Shocker would be considered number 1. DR: The Tarzan Boy matches, the Doc Wagner match and the Fusion Lagunaros matches were enough for me. He's amazing now. DEAN.
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